There is no digital community that can do better than my living room. When adults meet face to face in someone’s home, there is an automatic degree of dignity and respect established even when there are opposing views.
The fedi is on some extreme push to promote mass migration by folks in places like Facebook. It’s a kind of braindead paradigm to just grow without strategy. If your livingroom has culture of a couple dozen progressive freedom fighters who run free software and value things like privacy and human rights, all is good until you open the door to thousands of random normies. They flood in with shitty values and fuckup your missions by dilluting the rich culture that was there.
It is not smart to just cattle-herd masses into the fedi and think your work is done. The mess is just brought to our doorstep. Then what? Consider [email protected]. It’s evident just from the voting that a large portion of readers inherently oppose the purpose of that forum. It’s ruined by adversaries because of open access to all while simultaneously coupled with ad hoc concealed voting (you can only see who downvotes if you run an instance).
In principle, we would still need an ETS outreach type of community which is open to all. But then we need a separate invite-only ETS community where we can cherry pick constructive accounts. Just as I would never approach someone wearing a MAGA hat and invite them into my living room, I would not invite an ETS-hostile account into an ETS activism/cult forum. The outreach venue would be used as a recruiting area from which we separate the riff raff from the favorable accts.
With no tooling changes, the only way to pull this off would be for the mod to selfhost, defederate from all, then invite people to register. It’s high effort for the organiser and the participants, it excludes non-self-hosters, and it’s overly isolated.
Lemmy needs to evolve more to solve this.


Just had a look at the Cloudflare article. CF dependency would be an absolute mission-defeating show-stopper for anyone who doesn’t lick corporate boots and values digital sovereignty.
I’m glad they kicked the CF dependency. But we need more progress than that. We need a platform that is Cloudflare-incompatible. That is paramount to decentralisation.
Just to clarify a bit - PieFed was only ever dependent on Cloudflare in the sense that running any kind of busy website is very difficult without a CDN. Also ActivityPub is quite chatty which makes it worse than usual. PieFed was never built in such a way that you absolutely needed Cloudflare to get it working - I agree that would be a grave mistake.
The Cloudflare article was written after I improved the way PieFed works so that the need for any CDN, including Cloudflare, is greatly reduced. That week there was a lot of hate for Cloudflare around so that was the angle I took with it.