Time to give a speach about how Windows is not as reliable as it used to be SeemsGood
It’s your mistake, never schedule a presentation after a patch Tuesday
(I’m joking, fuck this shit, Wednesday I had to fight all the computers “OMG a new update it’s out, can I reboot now???”)
Nice.
Why would you … use windows?
Part of the time for money exchange program is using the computer that they give you…
Probably OP’s work computer. Most people don’t get to choose.
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No, you don’t. Shhhh.
IT guy here. When you finally can respond or join the meeting, make sure you cover yourself in feathers from a pillow and blame a duck gang for your misfortune.
Why not cover yourself with printed out Win11 logos and blame it on Windows Update?
Seriously, this right here is why I stopped using windows for work and switched to linux for professional reasons. Windows is not serious business software because of shit like this.
Hell, this is why I went out of my way to make sure I could control updates for my personal machine where the only consequences of it doing a random update would be that I can’t use it until it’s done. I didn’t even ever have it actually do an annoying update because the frustration was obvious as soon as I heard the term “automatic updates”, like this isn’t just for some program, it’s for the OS itself and will demand restarts.
And that isn’t even mentioning the undesirable updates, like the buggy ones or the ones that just enshitify your OS rather than add anything anyone wants, like all those windows 7 “get ready for windows 10” ones and apparently some people even got an automatic “7 to 10” update.
And then on Linux, every part of updating is nicer, other than the supply chain attacks (which is unfortunately serious enough I could see it threatening the entire Linux ecosystem itself).
Nice that you work at a place that allows that. Self employed?
There are a lot of places that allow Linux in a business/corporate environment
Do you have a few minutes to talk about our Lord and Saviour, Linus Torvalds?
Our Linus, who art from Finland, Hallowed be thy kernel.
He’s been in California for decades.
But he’s from Finland.
Linux users in their natural habitat, obscure online forums.
Observe how they nitpick minor technicalities between themselves, a hallmark sign of affection among their kind.
Iirc he’s in Oregon.
Didn’t he jump on the AI bandwagon?
No, he said AI may be used for assistance in kernel commits, but the same code quality and comprehensibility as before AI is required.
He cares about the output, not it you got some code snippet from ai or stackoverflow.
That’s a “yes, but”, not a “no”.
And AI code is intrinsically bad because is fundamentally impossible to understand (yeah, I mean literally). You just can understand what you actually put your effort to comprehend, reason and write by yourself. They’re just delegating their reasoning to a machine.
Also, Why not LLMs?
AI is just stolen code. It’s often similar quality to human output
I once tried to remake one of my projects using AI. When I gave it the requirements, it damn near recreated the project exactly how I made it. It was probably referencing my exact project, which would have been its training data, but it was a bit weird how well it did it
It was not, “fundamentally impossible to understand” either figuratively or literally
Me with my media library laptop on 58 days of uptime, chugging along like nothing is wrong
If I don’t find an anti-AI kernel fork I might be moving to NetBSD soon. That sucks, I hate moving to a new OS.
Linus has always prioritized results over ideological purity. Which is why Linux runs the world whereas BSD is still just a niche project.
Clearly he doesn’t care about results because he slop coded with antigravity rather than reading documentation for a python side-project. I imagine his younger self would be cussing his older self out for shipping things he literally doesn’t understand.
The reason for his actions are much simpler: he got paid. He gets paid from the linux foundation which receives a lump sum from AI companies. In 2024 Linus said AI was just Hype, but then the foundation received millions in funds from the AI companies.
If he cared about results he would have written the damn things himself.
I’m no vibecoder but between 2024 and now, LLMs also got much better. It might not have been the money that changed his mind.
LLMs either hit a wall or got worse, so no.
As much as I’d like that to be true, this is unfortunately not the case…
You’re going to argue that some new never before seen trove of uncontaminated training data was discovered? Perhaps you think the AI Scaling Laws don’t exist? Businesses that adopted AI dropped it or went out of business not long after, it’s as useless today as it was in the 1980s.
That and BSD was almost BSD™ by AT&T™.
Lost all its momentum at probably its most valuable growth opportunity to a single dev.
A lot of people very recently are already jumping ship from Linux so it appears a new most valuable growth opportunity has arrived.
I’m not sure I’d call permissive licensing “ideological purity” compared to copyleft.
Frankly, I think BSD loses because corporations are legally allowed to take and never give back.
I’m not totally convinced that his behavior in the past is a reflection on what is to come. He is at this point still refusing to answer questions about licensing LLM generated code and such and has apparently been obfuscating LLM commits. That doesn’t sound like somebody who is committed to results so much as it sounds like somebody giving into AI brainrot.
He’s also human, for example he hypothetically could use AI to offset a disability like dementia - a totally reasonable emotional response, but also not who I want controlling global cyber security.
Last I heard though all AI commits were a separate branch, I wasn’t aware of any sneakiness.
Their computer is installing updates, sure they have a few minutes.
Just opened the thread to make sure someone was spreading the good word.
Would you look at the time! Tux o’clock already!
i can backup my home computer, reinstall the entire OS, all apps, restore all the data, faster than a single Windows Update takes on my work machine
Yeah but Linux isn’t viable for me because [very obscure bug that was fixed in 2014]
“I’m afraid I can’t let you do that”
I use to have this and other sounds from 2001 as system sounds.
I should do that, that sounds fun
Bold of you to think anyone will be listening after the first slide.
Noice.
I haven’t used Windows in years, but it’s kind of funny to remember because my Linux machines take at most 5 minutes to update (even with a hundred packages to update), and only require a restart if something important happens, and even in that case I can postpone the reboot.
Good luck anyway!
Windows machines frequently do updates without a reboot nowadays and you can usually postpone an update to a more convenient time.
The problem is that when an update that requires a restart is waiting, it changes the standard restart button into one that does an update and restart. You can often fall into muscle memory and accidentally trigger an update.
When combined with the fact that you quite often get problems that go away with a reboot you can easily get yourself into OP’s position where they’re waiting for an update to finish at a really inconvenient time.
Nowadays, a lot of Linux distributions like Ubuntu, for example, will do an update and then tell you that you should reboot, even if a reboot isn’t strictly necessary. You can still ignore and postpone, but I think most users will see this as very similar to Windows.
Except for the fact that you can still use your computer while it’s updating. And it only takes one reboot (which takes the same amount of time as any other reboot) to apply the updates. And you have to actually tell your computer that you want to reboot. It’s really not like windows at all.
Not even doing an A/B partition kexec update scheme with VM live migration for all critical services??
Oh wait I’m a stereotype
Sorry you were at least half an hour late to your presentation.
