• tangeli@piefed.social
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    Angela Lipps spent nearly six months in jail in Tennessee and North Dakota after being misidentified by Fargo police through AI facial recognition in a bank fraud investigation.

    It was July 14, the day a team of U.S. Marshals arrested Lipps at her home in Tennessee. She said she was taken away at gunpoint while babysitting four young children. She was booked into her county jail in Tennessee as a fugitive from justice from North Dakota.

    Lipps would sit in that Tennessee jail cell for nearly four months. As a fugitive, she was held without bail. Lipps learned, following a Fargo Police Department investigation, she had been charged with four counts of unauthorized use of personal identifying information and four counts of theft in North Dakota.

    Officers from North Dakota did not pick up Lipps from her jail cell in Tennessee until Oct. 30 — 108 days after her arrest. The next day she made her first appearance in a North Dakota courtroom to fight the charges.

    “If the only thing you have is facial recognition, I might want to dig a little deeper,” said Jay Greenwood, the lawyer representing Lipps in North Dakota.

    Greenwood immediately asked Lipps for her bank records. Once they were in hand, Fargo police met with him and Lipps at the Cass County jail on Dec. 19. She had already been in jail for more than five months. It was the first time police interviewed her.

    On Christmas Eve, five days after the interview with Fargo police, the case was dismissed, and she was released from jail.

    Unable to pay her bills from jail, she lost her home, her car and even her dog.

    Another life ruined by a dysfunctional ‘justice’ system, with no consequences to those responsible and no compensation for the victim. How is this acceptable?

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      Should sue the AI facial recognition company. They can’t just say “whoopsie daisies” on that!

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        Maybe, if she had a house, a car, a dog and a few million to fund the lawsuits. I guess it’s just her fault that she’s a hapless victim and doesn’t have the means to sue, so she doesn’t deserve justice. At least, that seems to be the essence of the system.

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          Generally lawyers take cases for post payment from the payout, if it’s a good case.

          She’s going to win this one.

          But the payout will come from tax payers, yhe budgets and pensions of police will be unaffected, and the facial recognition abuse will continue.

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        They have good lawyers (users are supposed to double check stuff like this) and the cops have immunity.

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          Nah, lawyer here, product liability action all day long and police do not have civil immunity for 1983 violations.

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        I hate AI as it currently exists, and I hate those that sell it as tools for critically important missions (let alone beyond anything experimental), but these errors were all made by humans. No one interviewed her for months after she already was imprisoned.

        A false arrest is already a terrible mistake, but what went on after was astonishingly worse and not an AI’s fault. Anyone who dealt with this case should be personaly liable for what happened to this woman

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          these errors were all made by humans

          Yes, including the humans who work at and own the AI company that sold the shittty tool that the cops used. The AI company deserves to be sued if they claimed their product was reliable enough to do the job that the cops used it for.

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    Whichever judge signed her arrest warrant should be sanctioned or something. That is gross negligence.

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    AI is not to blame here. The humans who relied solely on the AI match are absolutely to blame. And let me also say a quick sarcastic USA! USA! USA!

    This is why we say ACAB: The system is completely broken. Not only the complete bullshit of arresting her based solely on the supposed face match, but also leaving her in jail not even talking to her, causing her to lose everything - house, belongings, dog - and even fucking abandoning her in Fargo once they were done fucking her life over. People fucking die on the streets. What a fucking nightmare.

    It’s shit like this that causes me to have to pull back on pushing back against the folks who have turned on the US. We don’t deserve bad treatment, they can still fuck off on that point. But the US is not a good country in very many ways.

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      Believe it or not, it’s possible for there to be more than one person or entity to blame. If they were not using these AI products, they never would have made this mistake. So it’s on both of them.

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        Believe it or not, it’s possible for there to be more than one person or entity to blame.

        WRONG. it is ALL YOUR FAULT, nobody else’s. ;-)

        I agree with your comment in general, but I think in this case imho the blame is really just with the idiots that went solely on the result of the tool. Yeah, the tool was also wrong, for sure. So… I agree in general but disagree in this instance. But imho no worries, I think we’re still basically on the same page about things in general. heh