• mEEGal@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    Using it to quit smoking is a good idea, and the only one actually.

    But disposable !? FUCK ME this world is doomed…

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      12 days ago

      I remember reading somewhere that vaping is more addictive than smoking. Sure it is not as bad as smoking health wise but the bar is set extremely low.

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        12 days ago

        I believe it, it can have a much higher nicotine concentration if you want it to and vape juice is tasty.

        The one saving grace of cigarettes are that they taste like garbage so it’s harder to get proper addicted to them. But a good vape will taste like candy even to a non smoker, so you can get drunk with your buddy one night and take a couple rips off of his watermelon flavored vape and exit that night with an intense craving for more, ask me how I know.

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      13 days ago

      Using it to quit smoking is a good idea

      Not really. You are just exchanging one addictive habit for another. Tobacco companies have been selling vapes as safe alternatives to smoking driven by social media bots and MD shills, but it’s a big fucking lie.

      Heating glycerol to make vapor breaks glycerol, a safe compound into DHA dihydroacetone, which causes DNA damage which can trigger cancer in lung.

      But that’s just DHA. We have no idea and have no testing or regulation of what goes into vapes coming out of Chinese chemical plants. No one is looking at this.

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      13 days ago

      People have been quitting smoking for a lot longer than capes existed. Vaping is not safe.

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                13 days ago

                you always can choose to start or not. beyond that, addiction may or may not set in. but people can always choose to start and they can always choose their method of use.

                weird how when it comes to tobacco people always think there are no decisions. have you never thought about it, like with your brain?

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                  13 days ago

                  Tobacco and vapes are nicotine delivery devices design to entrap addicts for life. This is why most vape companies are tobacco companies and why scumbags are selling nicotine pouches.

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              Yeah but stop pretending like vapes are some magic device to help with addiction. If they were actually meant to help with addiction they would be prescribed and come with additional medical help. Time after time we have seen this exact situation play out, something comes around to decrease addiction and does nothing more than induce it this is no different.

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      12 days ago

      I was under the impression that there are metal flakes in the flavors that absolutely wrecked your lungs. More so than regular cigarettes, was my understanding.

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      13 days ago

      Actually the stats say that only a fraction of people quit, but instead increase the nicotine content.

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      13 days ago

      lol the vapes have higher nicotine content and are more consumable. Your smoking habit will just double.

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        It’s almost like the tobacco industry doesn’t have your well being at heart. Vaping is actually way more profitable than smoking since there is less social stigma around it. Vaping companies market themselves as clean and healthy but in reality they are still preying off people who are hopelessly addicted.

        Your smoking “habit” (addiction) will go away but it gets replaced rather than removed.

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          11 days ago

          Ya notice how there’s no good studies on the topic. Big tobacco loophole for the next generation of smokers: