• Seth Taylor@lemmy.world
    3·
    2 months ago

    I’m 165cm (5’4")

    Everything I say is a short guy thing to say

    I can’t believe so many men are insecure about being me. I’m me and it’s pretty damn cool. The feeling of fresh grass on my chin in the spring… the cover of mushrooms when it rains… the company of leprechauns… I see only pros and no cons

    • jdr@lemmy.ml
      3·
      2 months ago

      Ya but I bet you’ve never felt the abrupt bliss of donking your head on a doorframe.

  • gray@lemmy.ml
    2·
    2 months ago

    I don’t understand the need for hating on short men and body shaming. We should come together to hate on men for their character.

      • stickly@lemmy.world
        1·
        2 months ago

        I think rage baiting requires some degree of deniability and subterfuge. The “[normal question] if you were athletic?” is a good example. The ones that are just “Shut up short man” are too crass

  • Wander@sh.itjust.works
    1·
    2 months ago

    I’m so glad I’m not short. Short guys just get shit on so much. Been at parties where someone just out of nowhere says “You’d be hot if you wasn’t short”. Like imagine that for anything else “you’d be hot if you wasn’t black”. “You’d be hot if you wasn’t in a wheelchair” just getting shit on for genetics.

    Same girls also cry murder if somebody says something about a fat girl, which is in their control.

    • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
      1·
      2 months ago

      For the shorties out there.

      Own yourself, short king, and people will be drawn to you like magic. It’s not confidence, it’s loving and accepting yourself. That’s all. Self-love creates a gravity for more love.

      Anyone so shallow that they would judge you by your height is someone you don’t want be involved with. As soon as you get to know someone, their appearance ceases to matter and all that is left is the human being underneath. Consider those situations bullets dodged.

        • SeptugenarianSenate@leminal.space
          1·
          2 months ago

          I think that your sentiment about “fat” people is true about 80-90% of the time around the world. Though I have heard that some places literally have “food deserts” in which supermarkets don’t really exist, or the ones that do might not stock healthy options. And in other situations some folks might only be able to afford (financially or executive-functionally) unhealthier options that might either take less time to select or prepare, or cost less money or driving time to procure. I think that’s probably where the downvote is coming from is people who feel unable to escape obesity due to a variety of limiting factors in their day-to-day lives which inhibit them from taking preliminary steps. not to say that going on a walk or taking the extra effort is not within their control, but that some people still struggle with it anyways, sometimes for reasons that seem counterintuitive or like that they should not be a real issue to deal with in practice but wind up being so anyways for some people who have never learned ways around the problems (or haven’t tried all or perhaps any of the different options yet) that they are dealing with.

          there have also been decades-long propaganda campaigns by various lobbying groups to sow misinformation about dietary recommendations which leave me a bit more sympathetic to people who fall for the promises of various fad diets which sometimes go around in certain populations, (keto, paleo, plant-based [for health {separate in my perspective from people who legitimately decide for themselves to go “vegan for the animals”}] , fasting schedules [again for health reasons, I know religious fasting also to have a different meaning and origination of intention/purpose for lots of people], etc.)

      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        01·
        2 months ago

        ‘There is a form of socially acceptable discrimination against a subset of people based around a fundamental intrinsic element of those people that they are totally incapable of changing.’

        ‘Chin up, be strong, don’t let the bastards get you down!’

        Oh so … not a situation where we maybe need or could benefit from a serious society-wide discussion of this problem, the solution to this form of bigotry is uh… its a personal responsibility.

        Got it.

            • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
              1·
              2 months ago

              I understood it and agree with the societal premise underneath. However, you put words in my mouth that I did not say or imply. As someone who claims to also be autistic, I expected better from you. I would encourage you to read what I said again, and think about what I did say rather than an imaginary thing I did not say.

              • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                21·
                2 months ago

                Oh I’m doing this thing called paraphrasing, to illustrate how what you’re saying sounds to people who are not you and may not think the same way as you do.

                Had I intended to actually quote you, I would have used

                actual quote formatting.

                Do you agree or disagree that shaming of shorter men is a socially acceptable form of bigotry?

                Can you see how you proposing an individualistic solution to that, where you likely would propose a social solution to other social problems… is something of a double standard?

                (As an example, men openly shaming/insulting overweight women)

                Finally: My paraphrasing of what you said is in fact accurate. You suggested that the solution to this problem is for men to just be confident in knowing that bigots are bad people.

                Cool, but that doesn’t stop the bigotry.

                • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  2 months ago

                  If I talk about how great guacamole is, I am not talking shit about poutine, I am talking about how great guacamole is.

                  For now I will assume you are having a bad day and that is why you are attacking internet strangers over imaginary arguments. Whatever you are going through, I hope your day gets better.

    • Taleya@aussie.zoneEnglish
      1·
      2 months ago

      This has got to be a weird american thing i s2g i have never ever in my damned near 50 years heard that shit.

  • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
    1·
    2 months ago

    In other words, “be a dick to somebody and watch them get angry.” Not sure why that’s gendered.

    Also, most of this is promoting toxic masculinity, so if it’s supposed to have a quasi-feminist undertone, it’s not doing it right.

          • Bluewing@lemmy.world
            1·
            2 months ago

            Have you ever noticed that people who are “always wrong” are seldom bothered by that fact?

          • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
            1·
            2 months ago

            Really? You don’t think so. Okay, let’s try an experiment

            (Disclaimer: the following statements do not reflect the views or opinions of the author)

            how to rage bait a woman

            • “what would you make for dinner if you could cook?”

            • “whatever makes you feel independent and empowered!”

            • “huh”…“huh”…“huh”…

            • repeat what they say with a nerdy voice

            • “Relax, it’s not that deep.”

            • “You wouldn’t get it.”

            • “That’s such a fat chick thing to say.”

            • “ok buddy”

            • “it’s probably hard always being wrong”

            • “your time of the month huh?”

            • “whatever helps you sleep at night”

            • “Do things normally work out for you when you do that?”

            • “You sound emotional right now.”

            • “Act your weight”

            • “Did you think abt changing your hair?”

            There. Is the blatant sexism obvious enough yet? Or is that only acceptable when it’s directed at men?

        • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
          0·
          2 months ago

          Woop, someone who isn’t okay with a double-standard! I guess a “RealMan™” would take it on the chin and not be offended, right? Don’t worry, just be okay with being walked on like a fucking doormat, and if you get upset about it we’ll just use that as ammunition to demean you even more! And if we push you past your psychological breaking point then we’ll all act shocked and call you aggressive and wonder “How could this happen?”

          Blame the individual for the inevitable consequences of a societal outlook. And if it starts happening with millions of individuals then we’ll just blame them all as individuals because they must be fundamentally and inherently flawed, and not just psychologically damaged by constant bullying and ostracization.

          Oh, but it’s not victim blaming when the victim is a man, right? “If you got bullied, what did you do to deserve it?” “Maybe if you dressed like a normal person people wouldn’t pick on you so much.” “People can sense a pushover, just have confidence and you’ll get more respect.”

          Honestly, go fuck yourself you privileged little shit.

  • FreshLight@sh.itjust.works
    1·
    2 months ago

    I love how OP restricted themselves to only respond in the mentioned phrases and how some have quite the reaction. Got me rolling.

  • halfeatenpotato@sh.itjust.works
    1·
    2 months ago

    I’m actually a little surprised at the reactions in this thread. When I read this, I was thinking of my husband and friends I could casually drop these lines on, and it’s something we’d all laugh about. I guess I just wasn’t thinking of someone using any of these lines sincerely or maliciously, and idk I didnt get the vibe that OP is just a straight cunt that hates men. But I could be totally wrong.

    At any rate, somewhere in the thread below, u/wonderingwanderer created an alternate woman ragebait list, and that shit was hilarious as well. My personal favorite was “Act your weight”.

        • BambiDiego@lemmy.zip
          0·
          2 months ago

          For the same superficial reason some men demand women be skinny or submissive.

          Some people are vapid, regardless of gender, most people roll their eyes at them.

          • Grail@multiverse.soulism.netEnglish
            1·
            2 months ago

            Well, the man community has historically punished women who are outspoken in order to enforce a hierarchy of unpaid labour and lack of voting rights, so as to cement the control of the ruling class; first the aristocracy, and later the bourgeiosie.

            So you’re saying women demand that men be tall, so that they can exploit men for unpaid labour, restrict their right to vote, and control all of society?

            I disagree, I think women place beauty standards on men for different reasons than men place beauty standards on women. At least when it comes to submission.