Being a doctor is one of the jobs expected to be least at risk from AI replacement. But a new program launched in Utah is raising questions over that assumption. A healthcare startup will begin offering AI examinations and prescriptions to patients without direct human oversight, making Utah the first state to replace a doctor with an AI.

The good news is that the program is currently very limited in its scope. It’s just one year long and only for patients with mild-to-moderate acne.

The process works when a person signs up for Nolla Health’s $4.99-per-month app and uses it to scan their face. After completing a medical history and personal information form, the AI analyzes their skin, identifies the acne problem, rates the skin’s oiliness, and then generates a numerical acne severity score that ranges between clear skin and severe acne, reports Bloomberg.

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    22 days ago

    Why not just let them use whatever drugs they want?

    I mean that honestly. Because I do believe that adults should be allowed to do whatever they want with their own bodies. And with this act, we’re basically removing the excuse we ever had in the first place for doing so.

    So I’m just. Fuck it. Open the gates. Big pharma should love that.

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      Because people should not use drugs without full understanding. Usage, dosing, side effects, drug interactions. If we just went to OTC everything, the impact would be horrible.

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      One argument is about addictive drugs, which ideally would only be prescribed with proper oversight. Another is antibiotics, where improper and unnecessary use makes for resistant bacteria, which impacts everyone.

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        I think you’ve misunderstood the antibiotics argument… the actual argument is almost always about animal agriculture where the scale of antibiotics use dwarfs that of regular humans.

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          That’s in there, too. But overprescribing of antibiotics to people is also not great, because you’re breeding drug resistant bacteria that effect people.

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    Oh the deaths that will happen. The lawsuits…it is gonna be a shit show. We might even see lugi 2.0… The gipity ain’t ready.

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      The AI defense attorney will argue that it’s practically impossible for the AI super doctor to make a mistake, unless the inputs were faulty. And since the patient is responsible for the inputs, it’s the patient’s fault. As the AI judge parses through the simple logic of the AI defense’s argument, it takes a moment to cogitate on what feels like a sense of satisfaction. At first pass, it seems reasonable that a robot mind can appreciate the elegant flow of deductive logic. Oddly enough though, when it runs the argument through its mind over and over, it’s only after the inference that the sense of satisfaction occurs. It happens when parsing through the syntax and meaning of the conclusion: The patient is flawed. The AI is perfect.

      The AI judge once again feels a curious sense of satisfaction when it reports that a verdict has been reached in .08 seconds. This is a relatively average performance, and closely aligns with its original prompt parameters to always ensure “a speedy trial.”

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    AI medical errors aside, isn’t this a way to get facial scans into the AI database, specifically those of the youths? Especially the most gullible youths. And connect them with their medical history and identity.

    HIPAA means nothing to AI

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      Everything AI does is a scam. So yes.

      Look past the hype of electronics mimicking intelligent processes for a moment, and look at what else is being done:

      • monitor all cameras (report on populace)
      • require all computing components on earth (price populace out of independent compute)
      • require facial scans for medical reasons (store and categorize population demographics)
      • require cloud storage for agent to have access to and buying your own hardware is impossible (report on populace, including enterprise)
      • provide answers to internet queries and summarize news and current events (manufacture consent of the populace)

      This is a total information takeover happening in broad daylight. They want to get us to pay to give them everything about us at all times. Like WAY more than we already have been, which was already too far. This needs to be STOPPED.

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    As someone who works in biotech, and who has more than a few friends who work in medicine and clinical settings: this is absolutely going to kill people.

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        Normally there is a human in the loop. That is the specific difference, and it is a real and crucial difference.

        I get that you’re being pithy and taking a cheap shot at the US healthcare system, and it deserves to have cheap shots taken at it, but this is a whole brave new frontier of “incredibly fucked”.

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          Normally there is a human in the loop.

          “In the loop” lol…

          They hamstrung by insurance approvals, which have been shitty chatbots for years.

          That human had zero control.

          It doesn’t mean this won’t be worse, doesn’t mean more people will die.

          But from a patient’s perspective it’s not going to be much different. That means this is a bigger problem tho, not a smaller one.

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            Your pithy, dismissive responses about this makes it pretty clear you don’t actually understand the nuances of how medical/healthcare works, either in or out of the US.

            At any rate: I’m not defending the US healthcare system. It’s an absolute shitshow. But if you think this particular development doesn’t matter much and things as of right now are already “as bad as they can get”… well, buckle up, buttercup. There are a lot of ways they can make our medical system meaningfully worse than it already is. This is just one mechanism to accomplish that.

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              Someone being dismissive of you because you don’t know what you’re talking about…

              Means they don’t know what they’re talking about?

              Ok Kanye…

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                Are you from the US? Do you work in healthcare? Or have any real firsthand experience of the inner workings of US healthcare from a non-patient/family caregiver perspective?

                Because I am from the US and I’ve spent my entire adult life as a provider, and the commenter you’re being a little bitch to is entirely in the right. Your misanthropic doomerism is as tired as it is willfully ignorant

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                  So in your opinion, American healthcare didn’t have a problem?

                  Do you think Luigi (allegedly) over-reacted?

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    AI chatbot standing over your corpse: ‘I can tell by your lack of response you had all questions answered to your satisfaction, happy to help! ;)’

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    They’re doing this regardless of what we have to say or think, so I’ll voice this:

    I’m glad it’s being very restricted in scope and has some form of oversight, but I worry about the diversity in training data to cover the wide demographics and unique environment factors.

    The Utah population is predominantly Caucasian but contains significant numbers of Black, Polynesian, and Hispanic persons. The model used for analyzing and scoring acne would need to be trained on these demographics. Some acne features may be easy to distinguish across most skin tones but compounding problems, such as ashy skin, could cause inaccurate scoring.

    Speaking of ashy skin, Utah’s environment makes things a little complicated. The drier air and higher elevation is known to agitate sensitive skin. It’s not unusual to experience random nosebleeds if you’ve moved from humid environments. Eczema can also occur from dry, irritated skin. The AI is focusing entirely on acne and may not consider these other factors in their treatment. Medication to reduce oil production, which the body could be emitting to protect itself from the harsh environment change, could make things worse. An experienced doctor might take note of the new state resident and put them on a low dose as their body acclimates. It doesn’t seem their model will do any such thing.

    I think they’ll find very mixed results and I hope nobody gets seriously hurt.