Go for it, they will choose the most inexperienced losers and it will blow up in their face. Like the doctored Epstein footage with the movie maker marks
So everyone who was involved in pushing that order is going to jail right?
Right?
Best we can do is long life on tax payers money
Early voters are reporting some hijinks when selecting their choice so be VERY CAREFUL about confirming who you are voting for.
I know I am going to be checking in to make sure my vote was counted and counted for the people I want to win. You should to.
How do we check how or if our vote counts.
Depends on the state. Vote.org is useful for this:
Early voters are reporting some hijinks when selecting their choice so be VERY CAREFUL about confirming who you are voting for.
I can tell from just the thumbnail that this is the Florida voting machine skit from 2004 lol. What a pull!
It’s the old projection thing again.
Republicans: the Dems hacked voting machines and stole the election! Lock them up!
Also Republicans: we hacked a voting machine so we can steal the election.
Pssst… They did it in 2016, and 2024. The only reason 2020 didn’t work was the massive amount of mail in ballots. Vlad helped, and now they are just making extra sure their cheats worked.
also covid put a wrench in things, that the conservatives couldnt freely go about in polling areas to rig it.
https://www.dcreport.org/2020/12/19/mitch-mcconnells-re-election-the-numbers-dont-add-up/
To be clear, I don’t necessary “believe” Republican fraud occurred. I do think there were enough statistical anomalies to warrant investigation, and that that didn’t happen because Trump put the Democrats fully in defensive mode by distracting them with spurious investigations elsewhere.
Conservatives: 😤
The bulk of the US: 😪
They want to find vulnerabilities, even vulnerabilities that you cannot use or that you have no evidence are getting used, to justify canceling the vote later.
There is no such thing as security if you have physical access to the device. So yes, I am sure they could “hack” it. (Remove storage, alter the votes, re-insert storage).
That doesn’t mean elections are compromised. It means one machine is compromised.
The storage had better be encrypted and locked to the machine it was installed on. It’s such a basic thing that…shit, yep they probably didn’t do it.
The first stone has fallen out of the wall. I hope it leads to more. If you look at the various numerical anomalies that occurred in swing states only, it becomes very plausible that Harris actually won.
- Mail-in votes closely reflected polling, but election-night voting (i.e. on the machines) contradicted the polls.
- Split-ticket voting occurred much more often than usual - in this case, ballots with a vote for Trump and votes for Democrats the rest of the way. This does happen in elections, but not nearly to the degree it happened in the swing states.
- The anomalies were always enough for Trump to win, but just below the thresholds that would trigger automatic audits.
Can we start compiling the evidence this stuff somewhere? Like I definitely believe voting got fucked up but whenever I want to talk about it to someone or bring attention to it I struggle to find a good resource for it.
Quick edit: And I struggle to keep my facts straight particularly because im super busy but also because of lack of solid reference
Somebody must be but I don’t know who. The things I listed came from a statistician who had various graphs and charts with historical data, illustrating why the voting was “anomalous”. I don’t remember his name and can’t find him now. All he could do was show how the data, particularly the precision with which anomalous Trump votes were just enough to win but not too much, that painted a picture of someone carefully adjusting the vote on election night. The voting machines also had automated operating system updates shortly before the election, and additional updates shortly after, creating a plausible scenario of software hacks being inserted and removed. So far there has been no hard evidence that anything happened, but the more people who are involved in something the more likely it is that things will happen between them later that motivate some to come forward.
Voting machines are vulnerable just like any other machine, and have been proven time and time again that they’re not particularly difficult to hack. DEF CON has been doing it for almost ten years at this point. First time in 2017, with lots of articles covering it. The year after even TIME reported about how an 11 year old did it. In 2024 they got some attention again due to Trump going for second term. But I don’t think much came of it…
The US is a flawed democracy, and has been on a steady decline for years.
funny how the machines are solelyused in only republican areas. in the west its all paper ballots. wether thats from mail in or in person.
Maybe it’s more: funny how areas that use voting machines come up Republican.
I worry that comments like this can degrade the confidence in the system.
States run their own elections and they’re usually administered at the county level. I can’t speak for any other county but the way we do elections here are legit. This system is audited and administered by bipartisan teams. During elections I work with people from different parties and facilitate a system to ensure our voting process maintains integrity.
If you don’t know how elections are administered where you live I encourage you to take an interest and get involved. We all have a duty here to oversee that we are administering elections with integrity.
The system is made up of many components, and voting machines are but one part. Even though they might be hackable in various ways, there are much more efficient ways these days to sway an election. The Cambridge Analytics scandal proved one efficient way, while there’s now a growing belief that whoever controls the social media algorithm effectively controls public opinion.
And don’t get me started on the two-party-system in the US…So no need to hack the machines, really. The system is flawed/corrupt elsewhere more severely.
I’m sorry to say this to you. It wasn’t difficult to make a voting machine in 2011. What we have are fraud machines. It’s just politically impossible to make a secure voting machine, even though it’s technically trivial.
Most democracies do not use voting machines because it’s impossible to trust anyone with creating and maintaining it.
If there is a way to change the vote tallies, then clever people will use it to enrich themselves.
The only way to circumvent most cheating is by paper ballots recounted manually in front of representatives of all candidates: recounted as many times as asked; and the ballots must be kept in public view until a winner is declared.
Putting the ballots into any other device negates some or all of the above.
And I would only have to say this in American political posts. But Americans are married to voting in ways that cannot be verified, except in some states. So most likely what’s seen as common sense in most of the world is either ignored or viewed with suspicion here.
Ask any student in the uk though; and I’m just echoing what has been taught in school to young children
thats why red states are solely using it as the majority, they know it is rigged to favor them.
The smoking gun for me is how much they’ve been screaming about others cheating. They cheated.
Narcissists always self report.
Ironically, the initiative was reportedly complicated by the fact that Elon Musk’s DOGE squad had laid off the CISA agents who would have known how to actually break into voting machines.
Article casually assuming that some vulnerability existed to exploit. The more journalistically-responsible way to phrase it would’ve been something more like “the CISA agents with expertise who might have been able to find a way to break into voting machines.”
Now why in the world would they want to do that? For educational purposes only, I presume. Fascists are famously pro-education.
Providers of voting machines have skewed GOP in their donations since Bush 43. Variations of voting results from polling have been strongest in Ohio and Florida.
Obviously this is yet more extreme corruption, but election rigging is possible/likely happening without this embarrassment. Vote rigging is more subtle than buffoon in chief thinks it should be.
Excuse me? The companies that make voting machines donate to a political party? Please tell me you’re joking
The guy that ran the voting machines in the 2004 elections, and before, Diebold was the company name I believe, was a big Bush supporter and was on record saying he would do anything to help the republicans win.
This is nothing new, and you can draw a straight line from the successful stealing of the 2000 electon to 2020.
Yeah, this election is gonna be stolen for sure… And guess what, Muricans will do nothing about it. They will throw their hands in the air and say “well, I tried”.
They already should have done something when their brain dead / brainwashed compatriots elected a CHILD-RAPING FELON, but nope. Sure, he was (possibly) “fairly” elected, that doesn’t mean you can’t show your “dissatisfaction” for it.
I never understand the point of the “But he was elected fairly” angle. So was Vladimir Putin as far as anyone can tell, so was Adolf Hitler, so was Stalin, the only major dictator of the last century that I can think of that definitely seized power through illegitimate means is Castro I suppose you could also make an argument for the CCP but certain people refute that.
Most dictators become dictators over time, the vast majority don’t grab power from a legitimate government because they would instantly have a fight on their hands. Usually that only happens with the US’s assistance.
Tolerance requires intolerance against intolerance.
Democracy needs a fast and sure actions against dictators and fascists, not soft words and long tedious processes
As much as I would want to cry foul, this sound like a typical red team exercise.
