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The outlook of Tesla isn’t great, so it is a perfect fit for SpaceX+xAI. All the brand new models are burning trash heaps, there are two cash cow models increasingly aging, even with the face lifts. It makes sense to consolidate everything into one big grift conglomerate.
Grok uses Claude, isn’t even using it’s own model. They gave up on that, because any competent staff they hire, leaves. Elon will go into history as the greatest incinerator of economic structure ever. The Epstein-class will forever regret letting him join. And Epstein knew…how crazy is that?
I had not heard of that. I think to stay correct, that needs some qualification. They have given up to compete with Claude on coding, so for agentic stuff the “Grok Bot” is using also Claude Opus 5.5. Grok still is an option too.
But yeah, it does sound like they are slowly giving up to compete at the very frontier.
Ketamine + Nazi != shareholder value
GROK! Solve this in a way that makes me lex Luther, not a parody of him. Make no mistakes.
He just wants to keep rolling the dice on his poor decisions until it pays off. I guess absorbing Tesla into the one “successful” IPO will hide the losses and leave the investors holding the bag.
I predicted this when they had all their cars flying and shit. Its an advertisment for spacex while distracting from the car that theyre half a decade late to releasing.
Building supercars is always more time consuming than anticipated. The Bugatti Veyron was unveiled in 1999 but it was repeatedly delayed for 6 years until they started actual production in 2005.
Musk is still an asshat, but the the timeline for the new roadster is not weird or sketchy (yet…)
The roadster was unveiled in 2017, and was supposed to come out in 2020.
It’s been almost 10 years since the announcement, and almost 7 years since it was supposed to be out on the streets.
Since then it was postponed, at least twice, to 2023 and then 2024.
Not to mention that what they presented last week is in no way shape or form, anything like was it was supposed to be in 2020. And it’s basically a gimmick.
It’s EXTREMELY sketchy.
Fair enough, I only had the “half decade” delay mentioned in the comment I replied to as reference, which in itself wouldn’t be cause for concern.
Oh and I forgot about the hundreds of millions of dollars they took in advances for the Roadster.
Hundreds of millions in what amounts to a no-interest loan of 10 years.
Sooooo sketchy.
Give it time. It will be weird and sketchy.
Well I did write “yet…”
Buddy…
Don’t you think if anyone should aware of how long it takes…
It should be the people trying to do it?
Like somehow you’re arguing that “everyone” knows this, yet Musk clearly doesn’t.
“Roadster” nah.
This isn’t a roadster. It’s a 2 door cybertruck without a bed.
The first Roadster was an actual roadster.
You know… An open cabin 2 seater sports car. That’s a roadster. This? This ain’t it.
The first roadster wasn’t even a Tesla, it was a repurposed Lotus.
They could have come out with the original concept a long time ago. But that was never the plan. The whole thing was never anything but a stunt to grab attention. The flying roadster was certainly effective in that, but nobody is ever going to sit in one of those cars while the tanks are pressurised.
What’s better than taking millions of dollars in deposits to build a crappy car? Taking millions of dollars in deposits to build nothing and have a no-interest loan with no maturation date.
Just like the human robots.
Fuck. He’s doing the hand thing. That’s bad for everyone.
Not as bad as his other hand thing, but yeah, pretty bad.
I can’t wait to see what Elon can do for Tesla with the extra budget from rolling it into SpaceX.
Imagine how many amazing new promises and forecasts can be made and broken.
Ultimately you’ll be able to summon your car anywhere … your car can get to you. I think that within two years, you’ll be able to summon your car from across the country. It will meet you wherever your phone is … and it will just automatically charge itself along the entire journey."
He said that shit in January 2016 😄
I love that there are enough of those to be worth a separate wiki article.
All will become X. Like a butthole.
A butthole full of shit.
From X to *. Like a puckered asshole. How long until it’s named AsterX?
Let me guess, a merger helps Musk hit profitability targets that adds another few hundred billion to his total compensation, while increasing his control?
No, it’s literally so he can say he is the founder once and for all.
And decreasing the usefulness of each input company
Wrong, $1 trillion pay package.
Sorry, I keep forgetting - the right process is, imagine the worst possible pay package that Musk could realistically get, and then add a zero.
I believe American taxpayers should prepare to bail out the resulting company. Soon. With mountains of money.
That’s the price you have to pay to never own a flying car
I think it is actually the price to pay to finance institutional fascism
The main product of SpaceX is corruption, they also have a side-business in rocketry.
Tesla is a publicity stunt company that occasionally sells cars. It seems natural to merge the two.
See this is exactly why it was such a bitch to get the legal rights to use that name in the branding. Teslas family did not want to be associated with this shit and knew goddamn well that people who would market that name would use be exactly like this.
The main product of SpaceX is corruption, they also have a side-business in rocketry.
How so? I’m genuinely curious, don’t know much about it, also not US-American
Musk used his informal position in Trump’s admin to both cut funding to NASA and to direct contracts to SpaceX, and to squash federal investigations into his companies including SpaceX.
Trump authored policy that was favorable to SpaceX and he and his family heavily invested in SpaceX right before announcing the policy.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/10/08/investing/trump-5-million-dollars-spacex-bonds
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/mar/25/doge-musk-spacex-starlink-contracts
Thanks for the summary!
Also look up how spacex was awarded the HLS contract for Artemis. It’s pure corruption and fraud (facilitated by Kathy Lueders), and helps explain why they’ve failed to deliver what NASA bought.
He lives only because you allow it
Is he trying to make it easier to seize them in the future? Everything except maybe for Tesla, which he is running into the ground by owning it, are international security threats.
Musk’s Starlink has been regularly fucking over Ukraine for years now. The EU’s finally had enough and is planning their own system.
And, ultimately, some third-rate power without an advanced space program is just going to decide to hurl a bunch frag grenades into space triggering a Kessler cascade and then we’ll all be back to an even playing field.
I got $20 that says it’ll be the Houthies
I’m assuming the larger bottle next to him is the ketamine, what’s in the smaller one?
More ketamine
I’m assuming doing so will make it more difficult to Nationalize when the time eventually comes.
Heil Heil the space Nazi!
Is this saying Musk talks to himself? It fits, I guess.
