• Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2026/07/23/game-streaming-ad-supported-xbox-insiders/

    Today, we’re starting to test an ad-supported way to stream select games from your library for a limited time, available to XBOX Insiders.

    During this test period, XBOX Insiders with an XBOX account will be able to stream games they own for free with ads. Players will have one hour session limits across supported devices and regions.

    Here’s what you can expect:

    1. Ads will play before sessions begin.

    2. The core game experience is unchanged.

    3. This is optional. Players can choose other ways to play at any time.

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    13 days ago

    I’ve called this so many times over… It’s not just going to be xbox… it’s going to be PCs in general, With AI data centers raising up the price on all hardware, They are already making moves in the government on banning routers. The plan is going to be for personal computers and hardware to leave the world. Either price them out of consumer reach or flat out outlaw them. We get thin clients like stadia, Luna etc… Actually having a personal computer capable of running software itself will be considered a national security threat. Why wouldn’t you keep your stuff in the cloud where the government can audit it, companies can make sure you aren’t pirating or running unapproved illegal LLMs that could make bombs etc…

    • FridaVermercury@discuss.tchncs.de
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      13 days ago

      Ok, whats your answer for all commercial companies without their own data centers then? You think they’d all be happy to give up their computers/laptops as well, or pay so much higher prices in the future?

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            12 days ago

            I don’t think it’s going to be an overnight thing, It will start voluntarily, as the price equation shifts. the complications wasn’t worth the savings when office PCs were 1500 a pop, but what about when they are 3000 a pop and projected to hit 5000 next year. After more of them make the switch… then say an announcement can happen that microsoft is lessening it’s support for on prem servers and workstations, patches will be less frequent. and now it’s a risk assessment as well.

      • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        13 days ago

        Running with thin clients for office workers has been default for large corporations for literally decades. Hell it’s even done in engineering heavy professions too. It’s the entire business model of companies like Citrix, and it’s extremely popular.

        As for small(er) businesses, no they’re probably not going to like it, but they hold little to no sway in the matter, so their opinions don’t matter compared to the multi-billion international businesses that fuel this.

        And outsourcing IT infrastructure is wildly popular for businesses of all sizes, because it’s less hassle and direct management when you just pay a third party to deal with it.

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          13 days ago

          Oh sweet summer child no it is not. I’ve spent 25+ years in corporate now. Aside from set situations like BCP we are not using thin clients. They’re cumbersome, an absolute bitch to manage, and quite frankly they’re shit (underpowered) and not flexible.

          Sure you may get some pockets of orgs that use thin clients across the board but I highly doubt it’s common.

          • khornechips@sh.itjust.works
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            12 days ago

            I work in IT for a large healthcare system that runs its EMR (electronic medical record) entirely through Citrix. So yes, yes we are using thin clients. And so is our largest competitor.

            Aren’t anecdotes fun, my sweet summer child? You shouldn’t speak with such authority when you have no idea what you’re talking about.

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              12 days ago

              This is the fun thing about The Internet is that neither of us have any idea what we are talking about.

              What I can tell you is in finance the use of thin clients is niche and is not a replacement for a laptop/desktop. It’s been tried time and time again.

              Yes we virtualize applications using Citrix but again those are niche.

              Now, healthcare may or may not be a different beast altogether.

              Question, how are users accessing EMR. Are they using a thin client workstation for that along with their word, excel, outlook, etc. or are they logging into a portal from their company issued laptop/desktop?

              I’m at a hospital right now and everything here is powered off of laptops hooked up to portable physical workstations.

              Regardless, I digress. I don’t give enough of a shit to care further lol.

          • thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world
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            12 days ago

            IDK, in broadcast infrastructure it’s thin clients and virtual machines all the way down, and yes it causes tons of problems.

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          13 days ago

          I think you are overestimating just how many big companies use a thin client-like system. But I admit I might be underestimating it. Out of personal experience, I used to work for a pretty big global company and every employee got their own work laptop to use. And that was a company with 30.000+ employees worldwide. So maybe that is my bias in this, and I would think companies like that wouldn’t so easily give up their digital sovereignty.

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        13 days ago

        If they aren’t rich enough, then they are in the same boat as us. This ain’t exactly new… AWS workspaces, Azure Cloud PCs, Google docs, office 365, one drive. The tech has been creeping it’s way into businesses for the last 10 years. Obviously they are getting hammered right now by the raise in prices of new PCs. As the prices go up, they will have to make decisions.

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    13 days ago

    Microsoft has reinvented the arcade, except this time you buy the game first and then feed the machine quarters to play it. Next up: a premium tier that lets you pause without the meter running. At this rate, Xbox’s most profitable game will be watching customers try to escape the billing screen.

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    13 days ago

    And it’s this kind of shit that has ruined my love for tech. It’s all soulless dystopian slop they want you paying for monthly for the rest of your life. Fuck all these techno dweebs. It’s a shame all the normies will go along with this…

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      12 days ago

      They’ll average $1700/year to play the fucking games they already spent $100 to borrow indefinitely? Fuck, gaming sounds so stupid now.

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        12 days ago

        “Indefinitely”, huh? They can just rent it forever? Sounds like a missed opportunity for shareholders, I bet we can get that line even higher

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          12 days ago

          Indefinitely just means unspecified. Could be 3000 years, could be 15 minutes; it implies “until further notice” depending on the whims of the noticer. See “suspended indefinitely” in crime drama shows, where they’re back on payroll by the end of the episode

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        12 days ago

        $1700/yr is 12 hours of gaming each day at $0.40/hr, which is more than the $0.24 you’d actually be paying. Nobody gaming that much would otherwise be spending $100/yr on games in any case.

        This is a very stupid thing for the industry, but your numbers are hyperbolic and anti-useful.

  • SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
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    12 days ago

    Important point of clarification- this is about streaming from the cloud, using an Xbox or GPU in the cloud to play the game. This makes sense as buying the game or not, you are still using cloud resources.

    Xbox Remote Play, which runs the game on your home Xbox and streams from your house to wherever you are, is free.

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      12 days ago

      this makes sense

      No it doesn’t

      Well, what you say does, but running games in the cloud doesn’t make sense in any logical way except for that that the owner of said cloud will be walking to the bank laughing his ass off

      • SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
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        12 days ago

        Oh I agree paying to rent a cloud xbox when you have one sitting at home is fucking stupid. A lot of cloud everything is fucking stupid, and I say that as an IT person who’s been fighting cloud-itis since the term ‘cloud computing’ became a thing.

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          11 days ago

          I see this as a feature most people wouldn’t actually use.

          Only use case I’d have for it is wanting a game to render at higher specs while travelling at like a hotel.

          I bought a steam deck for a vacation when it came out. Used it on the flight and that’s it. Never played games except at the airport so I was fine rendering at the steam deck.

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        12 days ago

        Idk, I think you’re immediately jumping to the conclusions of “they’re trying to make us all rent everything”, which, while most likely isn’t wrong, is also obscuring some potential for “Hey look, I can play less-response-time-intensive xbox games on my fricking phone with good wifi, because of amazing compression technology”

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      12 days ago

      Ya at current memory and server gpu prices it wouldn’t surprise me at all if they aren’t even making any money at 40c/hr.

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        12 days ago

        there was something the other day about microsoft having warehouses of GPUs for datacenters that arent even built yet.

        They could probably take 1% of those to cover it without any additional costs for them.

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          12 days ago

          They aren’t the same GPUs that are in Xboxs. those are nvidia GPUs eg the nv72 or gb300. There’s no way to make them compatible with Xbox. Source: my unc works at Microsoft data centers.

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              11 days ago

              Xbox and PC versions aren’t exactly 1:1. Plus, those are extremely expensive GPUs to not be selling for top dollar to the AI bros instead.

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                11 days ago

                those GPUs were sold for top dollar to AI bros.

                its why microsoft has so many of them, sitting in a warehouse, waiting to be used, for stupid AI bullshit.

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                  11 days ago

                  They are sitting in the warehouse because there aren’t enough other parts (e.g. DIMMs), power, or data centers for them. And as stupid as AI bullshit is, they are paying more than gamers by orders of magnitude.

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                11 days ago

                Not 1:1 sure, but I’m struggling to think of a meaningful difference that would make the PC version an inferior one besides incompetent porting.

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                  11 days ago

                  Xbox cloud servers are literally 5 motherboards: 1 management board and 4 Xbox ones. Developers can optimize for a single configuration rather than bake in support for multiple ones. Once it works on an Xbox dev kit, it works on all Xboxs including cloud, console, and handheld. SDKs are making that a thing in the past, but it’s not perfect.

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    12 days ago

    Xbox Developers: Hell yeah! Playstation is shooting themselves in the foot. All we have to do is sit back and we’ll kill it.

    Xbox Business : or… hold my beer.

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    13 days ago

    What else do you expect them to do with the billions of dollars of high end data centers they built for copilot? Help humanity in any way?

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    11 days ago

    Iirc One of the previous heads of xbox said that they’re intentionally trying to kill the xbox brand over time by enshittyfying it (or words to that effect).

    This might very wel be that. They know damn well this will piss people off.

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      11 days ago

      What is the end goal of killing Xbox? Not having to deal with consoles and just concentrate on computers?

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        I don’t know. I mean I wouldn’t put it past themto try and merge the whole gaming experience into the Windows ecosystem. We all know what geniuses they are doubling down on the whole slop ridden W11 thing.

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          11 days ago

          This would be so dumb… and at the same time so possible!

          Execs totally disconnected from the players base having no damn clue how they’re going to react.

          Players are going to be so pissed they’re much less likely to buy anything through MS ever again, but that won’t compute in an exec’s mind.

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          11 days ago

          That sounds like some exec thought it would work. Maybe they saw the success of steam and want a piece of that pie without having to put out hardware? I might be too old to understand, but if that’s the future of console gaming, I don’t want a part of it.

  • sompreno@lemmy.zip
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    11 days ago

    Your playing for cloud computing which as never been free very misleading headline

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      11 days ago

      It’s already part of the monthly fee. They are now tacking on an additional charge. It thought it was pretty clear.

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    11 days ago

    as a paperspace user i read the first part as ‘oh nice’ … then i kept reading. i’ll keep paying 0.76USD/hr. i don’t have time to justify paying for a gaming pc… especially now. so paperspace has been great when i want to play a high end game. my library, mods. but yeah… m$ hell bent on destroying their company for copilot.

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    12 days ago

    Stadia didn’t charge to stream, though I suppose if it still existed it probably would by now.