I don’t know how some people stay on [big social media] while constantly hating being on [big social media].
Yeah. Nothing toxic on fediverse lolololololololololololololololololololololioiloloollooloollol
You’re letting the Perfect be the enemy of the Good.
That’s a fair assement. Fediverse is orders of magnitude better than any other social media.
Then, and I don’t mean to be a dick, but perhaps you should not recreationally shit on Lemmy?
Someone who’s new here might stumble upon your comment and take it as an honest depiction that Lemmy is so toxic it’s not worth bothering with, and just head back to Facebook/Twitter/Reddit/etc. because while both are deemed toxic at least those are easier to join/stay on.
I won’t be responsible for what uninformed people do. And it is my opinion that Lemmy is only just a little better than the rest. I still hate social media, even if I’m still here.
I agree and endorse this statement and those who disagree… Can do so of course, who the fuck cares?
As a former (and maybe even current but reforming) sourpuss, you’re just making the universe worse by doing this kind of thing.
Please brighten up or butt out for everyone’s sake - including yours.
Not former from what I’m seeing…
You can feel that my attempt at constructive criticism of their toxicity is itself toxic; that’s entirely subjective.
Some people (including you?) earnestly believe any criticism is inherently mean. I passionately disagree and probably always will.
For related reading:
With all respect, FUCK OFF
I WILL DO WHAT I WANT
Block time. I wish you peace and professional help.
I use jellyfin btw.
kidding, I wouldn’t be caught dead using that garbage.
Fediverse isn’t all that great though despite all the cope, scroll through all and you see that it’s 50% news slop about how US conservatives bad that’s designed to keep you scrolling, 35% porn, 5% leftoid memes and 10% for everything else, pretty much like reddit minus the copious amount of rightoids. The culture is also pretty much the same.
Engagement and upvote hunting also does play a role, else there wouldn’t be people who make posting their day job or (as of late) bots automatically scraping popular posts from reddit to post here.
Like sure it’s decentralized, but what good does it do when it’s almost the same in content as the bad platform it denounces?
Yeah, it’s like people are addicted to doomscrolling.
On the fediverse you can hold real conversations with people in comments. That rarely happens on Reddit.
However as the fediverse grows, even as we are seeing in this thread, it becomes increasingly impossible.
edit Wow there really are a lot of comments here. Are people botting these or are we reaching this real level of interaction? Forget about upvotes or views this is crazy.
I think it helps you can see people you agree or disagree with in a bunch of comments, you can almost get a feel for who is courteous and who is just angry.
Reddit has always been more of a anonymous feeling website for me.
have you tried different instances? piefed.social blocks nsfw/nsfl as well as ragebait political figures’ names by default.
at any rate most of the complaints people have with reddit aren’t about its content, they’re about its slimy ass leadership, powertripping mods, and AI infestation. fediverse isn’t immune to any of that but it hasn’t metastasized here at least.
The problem is not the tool, it’s the people using it.
Because it is psychologically engineered to be addictive. Quitting social media is probably on par with quitting smoking.
I’ve never been addicted to smoking, but I’ve quit Reddit three times for upwards of a year, and I’m still on Reddit.
Other social media (Instagram, TikTok, even YouTube) were much easier to quit though
I was very frustrated at everyone getting mad at twitter, and then going to bluesky instead of mastodon.
At a certain point, once everyone is there everyone else has to go there.
I will say fedi right now has a pretty good vibe. Some of the more negative/angry people have left and its been a chill little community lately.
At least with bluesky you can bridge to the fediverse and vice versa. So you can keep it comfy on the fediverse
Yeah I do that on my personal gotosocial instance. Works well actually.
I wish there was a really lightweight version of piefed/lemmy that can work on a tiny pi instance like my gotosocial. But this instance is good too.
The truth is, it’s the most balanced people who left. Most people who remain are deep in the echo chamber, which is why it seems more chill: everyone agrees with you and the ones with realistic opinions have left.
Would you describe yourself as a balanced person? Have you made many postive comments on here to balance out all of your negative ones?
Balanced compared to most lemmy users, yes, though perhaps less than the average person. If you feel balanced on lemmy, then you are very much an extremist.
My comments seem negative because I only comment on controversial topics, and since I don’t parrot the common opinion around here, it gives them a negative tone. I never bother with the “I agree” comments like everyone loves so much, even when I do agree, because they do not incite discussion.
Maybe different for different people, but I don’t mind disagreement if it’s civilized. But some people come in with a ton of snark, condescension and rage, and then when it’s revealed that they don’t actually know what they’re talking about they double down, of course. I’ve started just blocking when I see the initial symptoms now.
lemmy is literally the same, in fact id say of all the social medias i’ve been on this place is the worst and most toxic and most political
you cannot escape american politics it’s everywhere, community doesn’t matter, this place is like 90% politics 10% linux which is also somehow political
anyone whose opinion isn’t strictly left wing is constantly dogpiled and banned, this place is not the alternative to social media
Political alignment doesn’t preclude people from being stupid. At a certain point you have to remember that people being wrong on the internet isn’t your problem.
I mean most of your recent posts are politics. Maybe not american politics but still politics.
the nrl community is dead, the ai community is dead, mistral comm is dead, brisbane comm is dead, fitness dead, is there a gym comm? hardstyle dead, lemmy shitpost: https://lemmy.world/post/53465720 full of american politics, technology full of anti-ai and anti-big tech articles (honestly tiring after 4 million articles on the same thing), no economic comm that isn’t american and iirc that one is also pretty much dead, there’s practically 0 australian content here, what do you propose I post about? maybe i should make some more posts in dead comms for people to go though my history and downvote them?
tbh im mainly bitching because i’m disappointed, i can’t force the people who post here to care about other things so all i can do is whine
also insert “we should improve society somewhat” meme here
pps. dw as said ill be gone as soon as something better comes along
Well, anti-AI and anti-Big-Tech are on the correct side tho
it gets boring seeing only hatred against the machine, where’s the machine fighting back?
I’m quite happy with a few communities here: books, cats, cooking, Dull Men’s Club.
The cocktails and DIY communities are also nice but not as active.
I can’t agree more that this place is absolutely suffocated by American politics. I block a TON and still feel flooded :(
That’s a weird sentiment coming from a moderator of worldnews.
I disagree with the person you respond to on many things, but if you’re around here for a while, it is obvious. Lemmy is dying, and more importantly, it is extremifying and openly advocating for violence, which is pretty bad.
A large portion of Lemmy is very comfortable cencoring any pro-democracy notion. There is a radical group calling themselves left, communist, socialist and anti imperialist, but they actually want trump to keep running things, because that might bring down the US the fastest.
They don’t like the Palestinian genocide, but don’t mind the other one, and are also totally okay with 330m americans suffering just for their political gain. That ideology is carried by the creators of Lemmy, and spreading outside the OG instance.
Lemmy will not survive unless serious and decisive action is taken by intance admins to curb the radicalisation.
Lemmy is not dying. You are going around pushing your DNC agenda everywhere because it is election season. I hope you are getting paid for this.
Do not project, comrade
Pokemon go to the polls.
See that wasn’t that hard. You can vote and you can prepare for your armed rebellion from behind your keyboard. They’re not mutually exclusive.
Just block the .ml instance, and 95% of that goes away.
Awesome thanks
lemmy.mlandlemmygrad.ml, yeahI think my instance doesn’t even federate with grad. I’ve never seen a single post from there.
Your instance’s based!
because that might bring down the US the fastest.
So they are accelerationists.
They don’t like the Palestinian genocide, but don’t mind the other one
Sudan, Myanmar, China?
Sudan, Myanmar, China?
Ukraine, probably.
Fucking tankies I swear to god
And god forbid you call hamas a terrorist organisation.
There’s some ragebait here and there on Fedi, but it’s homegrown ragebait so it’s fine.
Can’t say I’ve seen any ads on here? Unless you count the Rule 63 Malfoy stuff that has been popping up all over the internet. At least in recent memory. Or the game deals community haha.
Unless you count the Rule 63 Malfoy stuff that has been popping up all over the internet.
Is that stuff actually being pushed by outside money? I thought it was just another stupid fad.
Unclear, but I’m assuming there is some level of astroturfing.
Lighten up, francis.
I don’t get it, what’s the joke with francis?
It’s community run
or maybe we just all ran away.
Yard Sale. People stay in big places, because it gives them access to a wider pool of people. Veritasium also replicated this theory.
Wow this is a really good link. Thanks. Im reading through this now.
Yeah this is pretty much the only reason I still use any social media like YouTube, Facebook, and Reddit.
YouTube cause I like the long form video essays (yes I know Nebula exists, but I am cheap).
Reddit for the niche communities that aren’t really popular here (Lemmy is my shitpost haven though).
Facebook only exists for me because of Facebook Marketplace and literally no other reason.
Corporate control and toxic trolling are completely unrelated problems.
In fact, corporate control used to be one of the primary ways to REDUCE toxic trolling before all the tech platforms went mask off when they realized the political levers are now in the hands of those very trolls.
It’s a problem inherent in humanity. The only way to get rid of trolling, self-promotion, and toxicity is to get off the internet altogether.
Doom scrolls billionaire social media sites, whilst refusing the fediverse.
“Anyway it’s the immigrants’ fault.”
Social websites are basically urinal stalls that people graffiti on.
Yet you doomscroll!
And there’s plenty of ragebait.
Weird thing to post on Lemmy, a place dominated by engagement metrics.
Also, why is the guy who quit all social media “doom scrolling”? Doomscrolling what? An RSS feed?
Good for him, tbh.
Weird thing to post on Lemmy, a place dominated by engagement metrics.
Can you explain? Do you mean up/downvotes?
I didn’t do anything special to my feed, but out of the bat it’s so much more depressing, rage inducing, and sensational. And the comments are way more…polarizing so to speak. There is more genuine people here than on Reddit, but every time I scroll here I stop because my heartbeat goes up. If Reddit is 50% bots doing ads and 40% ragebait, here all the ads are replaced by pure concentrated ragebait.
Block all the politics, news, and regional communities you see. It really helps a lot. I mostly see comics, memes and Star Trek jokes now.
Election Cycle upcoming in USA, and cause USA are so damn loud all the damn time, it ends up so the world hears about it
The trouble is, there’s a bunch of awful people on the fediverse too.
I have absolutely no appetite for requiring ID to use social media, but the anonymity in any social media platform, regardless of its popularity, brings out the worst in some people.
More folks need to get comfortable with the block button. I have a list of users blocked for being shitty, but there sometimes seems to be this weird mentality that blocking users instead of debating them is weak or something.
Also blocking communities, if you browse all and hate most of the posts and comments there.
Yeah, the ‘awful people’ in the fediverse really amount to, like, 5 to 10 people, total. Once you’ve blocked them, it’s great.
Don’t forget about their endless array of alts.
Actually, nvm - on pawb.social that might legit be true, if your admin does that for you already.
But that’s like 25% of the user base D:
/s
Jup, at the current size it is actually manageable.
I only experience people being shitty to me on the fediverse after I call them out for being a misogynist or misandrist or blah-phobic. Otherwise people are very inquisitive and supportive around here.
pseudonymity* ☝️🤓
