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      I hate to break it to you but there’s a ton of Ds in the Epstein Files.

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          Me? 2 posts? All over the thread.

          A traitor for noting that the Democrats are fascist pedophiles?

          My fellow American, we were founded by fascist pedophiles. We were forged by fascist pedophiles. We fought a civil between factions of fascist pedophiles. We protected fascist pedophiles. We celebrated fascist pedophiles. We revered fascist pedophiles. We rehabilitated fascist pedophiles. We appointed fascist pedophiles. We empowered fascist pedophiles. We committed murder for fascist pedophiles.

          If you think the other big party in the US isn’t chock full of fascist pedophiles, you’re delusional

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              Let’s see.

              FDR - built concentration camps for anyone vaguely “Asian” looking and stole their commercial private property. Also established racial red lining for lending.

              Truman - Korean war, killed a million civilians under the theory that the US should be allowed to continue the fascist occupation of the Korean peninsula since they’re taking over for Japan.

              Truman - Operation Overcast and Operation Paperclip. Saved 10k Nazis from justice prior to Nuremberg, gave them new lives, jobs, money, political positions, state protection, PR rehabilitation.

              Truman - Staffed NATO with Nazi officers, oversaw election in West Germany which allowed former Nazi politicians to change parties and run for office.

              Truman - oversaw Operation Gladio, the clandestine NATO program led by the Nazi officers assigned to NATO to organize former Nazis and Nazi collaborators all over Europe, funnel them money and weapons, train them, and make them into terrorist proxies

              Truman - saw the French losing their fascist colonial occupation of Vietnam and decided we should help the French massacre the indigenous there.

              JFK - decided to ramp up the military support for massacres in Vietnam

              LBJ - cranked up the violence in Vietnam so bad he obliterated Laos. He also sent the US military to Guatemala to “support” the fascist right wingers there, by which I mean massacre popular movements. He also sent the US military to prop up the puppet government in DR Congo and massacre the popular movements there.

              Nixon - Not a Democrat. However, the Ds controlled both houses of Congress for his entire presidency. And they all passed the drug laws that Nixon and his cabinet designed to imprison and disenfranchise Black people and anti-war hippies. Literally. The Nixon administration officials are on record that this was their design intent, and the Democrats made it happen. Because that’s what fascists do - they criminalize peace, they criminalize resistance, and they profit from it.

              Carter - A perfect liberal, did nothing wrong. Ya know, except oversee the CIA program to arm and train the Mujahideen, develop a pernicious form of radical islam to keep them fighting, and then eventually unleashing 9/11 on the country. Thanks, Jimmy. Even though you’re a sweet old man, your fascist bloodlust just could not be tamed.

              Clinton - Crime bill (Crime Bill). But also Bill was governor of Arkansas, and he and Hillary lived in the Governor’s Mansion. Ya know they have black house slaves there? It’s a prison labor thing. The Clinton’s were fine with it. Didn’t think it was worth changing. I’m sure they tipped their house slaves every once in a while. Treated 'em nice. But also yeah the crime bill? So much mass surveillance and incarceration. Just total fascist shit.

              Obama - drone strikes on US civilians without due process, maintaining the Bush doctrine of first strike and the Bush concept of “enemy combatant” which is just fascist speak for “we can do whatever we want to these people”. Then of course hand in hand with Clinton the funding and support for a civil war in Libya and then bombing the country into rubble where they now sell slaves. Clinton on record saying she laughed while she watched the video of the 80-year-old leader of the country sodomized by a bayonet in a public square as he was tortured to death. Real fash shit.

              Obama - oh yeah. He was the first one to appoint Homan as deportation czar. 3M deported under Obama. Human rights groups called him “deporter-in-chief”. He expanded DHS and ICE massively. In fact the things Trump has done, like appointing Homan as his deportation czar all started under Obama. Obama relied heavily on private prisons to fill his quotas, privatizing state violence like a real fash.

              And then of course there’s Biden

              Biden who oversaw continued and escalating genocide in Gaza. Who fought the good fight against Trump by… doing nothing, almost as if he didn’t really care. Biden who undermined the unions while using union aesthetics (which mustachioed German man pioneered that, I wonder?).

              And that’s ignoring the 50 years of bipartisan support for starving entire populations through unilateral sanctions, killing an average of 800K annually; the bipartisan support for mass incarceration; the bipartisan support for warrantless mass surveillance; the “southern strategy” and Democrat “triangulation”; the Democrat collaboration with Republicans that survives to this day while we all see the fascism for what it is.

              Yes. The Democrats are fascist by virtue of being the other dominant power of the perennially fascist USA, a state that has not had a single day where it was not actively fascist (but the white people it considers the master race don’t notice).

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    Lol I already said a year ago that even if they gain a supermajority, they’ll still somehow fail to successfully impeach Trump.

    For the third time.

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      Trump has already been convicted for some serious crimes they need to actually sentence him.

      Capone didn’t end up prison for a lot of the heinous shit he did. But he did end up in prison.

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        He was literally on his way to sentencing but the American people voted him into office and the supreme court said he can do anything and it’s legal. They’d have to make up some bs to get him in jail at this point but who cares. The Republicans will call foul play but they will do that even if you gave them everything so…

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    When apparently you can just rename everything America and after yourself at whim as President, the never-ending excuses for getting nothing done during Democratic presidential administrations will not cut it for me this time.

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      Anything a president can do unilaterally can be undone by the next president. There’s a reason why the Afordable Care Act hasn’t been undone at the stroke a sharpie

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          Not the argument I was making, more the downs in strategy. The republicans going full send without consideration of the consequences and the Democrat taking taking time and being thorough

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            “Taking time and being thorough” looks a lot like “wasting time and doing nothing” when they’re doing anything other than selling weapons for genocide.

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      What a funny thing to hang your hat on. I can’t tell if this is supposed to be sarcastic or not.

      Renaming stuff is probably the easiest thing in the world. It costs money down the road, but it’s significantly less intrusive and costly than doing almost anything else this admin has already done.

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        Dude it ain’t just the renaming.

        I know everyone’s got the attention span of a fucking gnat, but this dude has done whatever the fuck he wants with impunity while most Democratic administrations look like they’re asking for permission to pee.

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          I know! That’s why I thought renaming things was such a silly thing to break the camels back for someone.

          The way your original comment reads, it reads like the recent renaming is what has really made you upset.

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          That’s because the Republican judges invent reasons to block what Democrats do and pretend there’s no standing to stop other Republicans. You guys need to get a large enough majority to enforce 14A3 and disqualify this lot for fucking treason and tear apart their ability to get in the way

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        They don’t say “it’s too expensive”, they say “republicans won’t let us do it”.

        But they let republicans do anything they want, including stupid petty distractions like renaming places. They are not on your side. Also they committed the majority of the genocide in Gaza. Democrats are not your friends, very few of them are decent humans.

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          I never said they are on our side, I just found your particular point about it silly.

          Not even going to comment on the rest of your reply. You clearly live in a black and white world.

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            You clearly live in a world where suffering of others is negotiable as long as it benefits you, and you call that a colorful world.

            What a weird way to attempt to insult me, yes genocide and imperialism are bad and their supporters are bad, there’s no room for gray in there.

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              You’re refusing to look at how the killing accelerated under Trump and you fucking dare to accuse us of not caring?

              Everybody who looked and thought for 2 seconds predicted it would be worse under Trump, tried to stop Trump, and you didn’t care because you refused to believe it could be worse under Trump, and then you claim the moral high ground for rejecting evidence

              There is more genocide and imperialism because Trump got another term

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                The killing factually decelerated under Trump.

                That’s not to defend him or his plans of turning Gaza into a beachfront resort, but factually, the killing is no where near as bad as it was under Biden.

                You predicted it in 2 seconds, we lived through the live streamed genocide from day one, you’re wrong, and it’s disgusting how smug you are about it.

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                  LOOK AT THE CHARTS

                  You’re just blatantly lying here, the charts fucking jolt up under Trump, YOU HAVEN’T EVEN LOOKED and insists on just believing your gut!

                  YOU’RE the smug fuck for refusing to look

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          Who lets them? The Republican courts you mean?

          The majority of buildings destroyed is not the majority of lives lost. More people were killed faster under Trump. Somebody is lying to you if they’re telling you Democrats were easier on Netanyahu than Trump is. They are lying to you because they want you to hurt yourself.

          Observe the acceleration under Trump

          https://www.statista.com/statistics/1616501/monthly-gaza-fatalities-injuries/

          https://infosec.pub/comment/23470753 - here’s a whole list of how Trump was worse in every way exactly as the warnings said

          The recent slowdown in Gaza is caused only by increased killing in Iran and Lebanon, which does not play in your favor

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            Observe the acceleration under Trump https://www.statista.com/statistics/1616501/monthly-gaza-fatalities-injuries/

            That’s cumulative you moron. The slope clearly drops after Biden did the majority of the damage. You can’t even comprehend the information you’re using, or you’ll do anything to twist reality to justify your support of genocide.

            https://data.techforpalestine.org/

            Under Biden, until 19th of January 2025, 47,724 killed. This number does not include the bodies never recovered or accounted for because they were vaporized, are still under rubble, or the entire family line was wiped off and noone was left to report them gone. The Lancet estimated 75 200 violent deaths between 7 October 2023, and 5 January, 2025 (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(25)00522-4/fulltext). But we’ll stick to the official number that Biden over and over called untrustworthy. 47,724

            By the time Biden was out of office, over 90 fucking percent of housing in Gaza was damaged or destroyed, you ghoul.

            As of 10 September 2026, the official number is 74,784. That’s only 27,060 under Trump.

            If you want the daily rate under both that’s 101.3 killed ever day under Biden (again way under reported) and 44.95 per day under Trump.

            The recent slowdown in Gaza is caused only by increased killing in Iran and Lebanon, which does not play in your favor

            Are you suggesting Biden, who bypassed Congress twice to illegally send them bombs to destroy practically all of Gaza, almost all hospitals and clinics, and almost all farmlands while gaslighting us, lying about seeing beheaded babies, callously licking ice cream while stating there are “none” chances of a ceasefire, who’s administration had members of the press dragged out in cuffs for asking about it, who framed the terrorist pager attack in Lebanon as heroic, or Kamala who went on national television and said she can’t think of a single thing she’d do different, would have stopped Israel from carrying on their stated objectives of greater Israel from day one?

            Fucking clown.

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              So your argument is that after killing increased for s while under Trump, the shift to killing in Lebanon and Iran instead of Palestine means putting Trump in power was a success?

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                You disgusting ripe banana brained piece of shit.

                At no point during the Trump presidency did the rate of killing go higher than the first 150 days of the genocide under Biden. And we’re still not counting the excess unreported deaths that primarily occurred during the first 150 days, when Israel cut all power to the strip and rained bombs at night.

                The data is right there, and you’ve been repeatedly informed how you’re misunderstanding it, but now I think you’re just counting on people just believing your lies.

                We don’t support Trump, you moron. You’re defending democrats as a “lesser evil”, and in this demonstrable case, they actually are the “bigger evil”. They’re only better domestically, and that’s what bothers liberals (or straight up Zionists pretending to be progressive), that Trump affects your cushy life. Fuck you.

                You can’t just condemn the democrats for committing genocide, you have to gaslight everyone and pretend like you give a shit about Lebanon or Iran just to say “look, republicans are the only baddies.”

                In case it isn’t clear to your two braincells, we don’t support Trump, we didn’t want him in power, and we didn’t vote for him. But you not only voted for genocidal KH (presumably), but you’re still defending them despite the data showing clearly what they did.

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    I wonder if even after Trump they will run with the “Change takes time you have to be patient” bullshit again. That is if they ever get relected.

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      They’ll do the “We look forward, we don’t look back” bullshit that Obama pulled post Bush.

      Nobody important in the Trump administration will be prosecuted or punished in any meaningful way. Just you watch, we’ve been here before.

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      The fuck are you talking about? Political party reform is totally possible and has happened multiple times throughout American history. Conservatives just did it in the worst way possible to the Republican party. Positive political party reform is how the wealthy used to be taxed out their assholes back when America’s middle class was strong.

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        And then Clinton threw the doors wide open to corporate cash and allowed them to start writing tax code. He also broke down the walls against lobbying, and corporate banking.

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    What the fuck is this nonsense? I’ve been saying for years that one of the reasons Democrats aren’t doing more is because Republicans are able to shut them down.

    That’s only one reason, yes:

    1. No supermajority means filibuster (which has been more like “the threat of a filibuster” or “someone whispers the word ‘filibuster’”) has real power and Republicans have used it effectively
    2. Yes, establishment Dems are centrist and not progressive, but they have tried to do things that got shut down, q.v. above
    3. Yes, plenty of Dems are also corrupted by oligarchs throwing money into the system

    There are mulitple reasons we haven’t seen more progress, but this is not a new thing anyone is saying. Or maybe some people are just waking up to it, but OP’s image is full of bullshit if they think some of us haven’t been yelling about this for quite some time - because people think “Elect Democrat president = solve all problem” and this is VERY NOT TRUE. Same with Democrat majority in Congress.

    And this is yet another reason why I think we’re beyond fucked.

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      We need to help Progressives take over the Dem Party, and replace the party leadership. We can’t allow the next era of Dem power to be managed by Schmuck & Jeffries. They already had their chance, and literally EVERYTHING they’ve done has helped MAGA gain strength and regain power. They are at least 50% of the reason that MAGA took over again, and they’ve done less than nothing to earn the opportunity at a second chance.

      It’s long past time to make huge changes, from top to bottom. We can’t allow another term like the Biden term. The next Democratic term has to show substantial progress on Democratic policies, and massive rollbacks on MAGA treason, as well as criminal punishment for MAGA treason, corruption, and pedophilia, or it will be the end of America.

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        See, this is where while I might nitpick on a couple of things, I’m in at least like 90% agreement, and certainly 100% agreement on the conclusion. It irks me when so many are like “I know what we need to do, but some of the progressives that could help solve this are supporting one thing I disagree with, so fuck it, I’m out”.

        Because you are right - we’ve got to have progressives in charge. And it’s not because “my team win, I win”, it’s because they win for EVERYONE. Progressive policies work for everybody except fascists.

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          When the genocide wing keeps telling us that biden is the most progressive human to ever draw breath, you can imagine that progressives are wary about their movement being co-opted.

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      It’s incredible how Republicans manage to do a lot of things, essentially damage, despite Democrats opposition. But Democrats can’t do anything, because Republicans won’t let them do.

      Can’t you find COMPETENT Democrats?

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        The system is built so that it is much easier to prevent action than to take it. Republicans obstruct. And where they succeed, it is largely because it’s things the oligarchs want, and yeah, centrist Dems serve the oligarchs as well.

        It’s the main reason I keep shouting that we need to solve the oligarch issue first, then deal with the political party once we cut off their corrupt funding.

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      You mean the one where a Democrat argued for a republican created policy to perpetuate our healthcare misery for another few decades?

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        I liked the part where the democrats slow rolled every part of it, coming to the negotiating table over and over with concessions to get the republicans to support it, all for nothing.

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          For real, I don’t get why more people don’t talk about this. They literally dismantled their own plan to appease Republicans, the Republicand never supported it, and they pushed forward their gutted plan.

          Like, if you are going to say fuck it and push the plan with Democrats alone at least use the original plan that wasn’t gutted. That shit was purposeful.

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      I don’t know what is considered a lib anymore but my answer is let’s have more than 2 parties. Reform electoral law, get rid of first past the post. Raked choice voting.

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          Some non-banana republics have tried this wacky idea of starting a different party, completely independent of any other party.
          Which is a really good idea if you’re not satisfied with the 2 you stubbornly keep voting for and who have invariably done the same shitty things since the beginning. Some of us wild countries even have more than 3 parties!

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            The US also has more than 3 parties, but the current system guarantees that only two can get enough votes. The entire electoral system is built to perpetuate this, including the media ecosystem. So sadly, it’s not as simple as just “have a third party.”

            Personally, I think socialist revolution is the only thing that can bring positive change in this country, largely because it doesn’t try to change things within the system, it seeks to dismantle the system entirely.

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              The US also has more than 3 parties, but the current system guarantees that only two can get enough votes.

              ‘strongly favors’ yes, but not ‘guaranteed’.
              It all comes down to the voters and the self fulfilling prophecy of not voting 3rd party because nobody does.

              And yes, socialist revolution is the far better option but then we’re back to my first comments.
              You certainly can’t expect that from people who can’t even manage the voting 3rd party part.
              They have zero class consciousness and perpetually voting against their own interests.

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    I’m not convinced they’ll regain power. The fucking president just promised to pay $5,000 per vote. He is trying to gain power over mail-in votes. He prevents interviews with democrats from airing on TV. He has friends that admit to messing with voting machines.

    THIS IS NOT DEMOCRACY.

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    Primaries are the time to do this. It’s the reason I moved from independent to democrat as PA only lets you vote in primaries with party affiliation.

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        Democrat primaries, famous for listening to the voters and propping up who they vote for. Never any fuckery in a democratic primary

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        The 2024 Democratic primaries happened. Joe Biden won. Then his own voters made such a fucking stink about his age (despite his accomplishments) that they forced him out at the last minute and it defaulted to his VP, who Democrat voters also voted for by association of voting for Joe Biden.

        You think we should have held a primary 2 months before an election? Would have been chaos.

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          The party sued as many opponents off the ballots as it could, so that Biden’s name was the only one on the ballot in all 50 states. His handlers hid that his brain was pudding until he bragged about finally beating Medicare at the debates.

          And then they installed Harris and you’re going to bat for them for it.

          I think biden never should have run. For anything. Ever. He’s a genocidal piece of shit.

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    Dig this big crux

    During the 2025-2026 congressional sessions, several significant pieces of legislation were passed that showcased deep partisan divisions. The key issues included:

    • Budget Proposals
    • Healthcare Reforms
    • Voting Rights

    The voting patterns on these issues were characterized by strong party-line divisions, with Democrats and Republicans largely voting in alignment with their party’s stance. This trend reflects the ongoing polarization in Congress, where bipartisan support has become increasingly rare.

    Summary of Votes

    | Legislative Issue | Party Support | Key Points |\

    | Budget Proposals | Mostly along party lines | Significant disagreements on funding allocations and priorities. |\

    | Healthcare Reforms | Divided by party | Controversial changes to existing healthcare policies. |\

    | Voting Rights | Strong partisan divide | Debates over access to voting and election integrity measures. |

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    Yeah - Biden tried that, and literally nothing impactful actually happened, and then they all just threw up their hands and said “well, we tried, that should be good enough”

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      The United States has a huge problem with presidential pardon power. Anyone serious about accountability needs to advocate for getting rid of it.

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        It’s not even just the pardons really, it’s the fact that so much of government runs on vibestm and the belief that elected officials will always act in good faith. So the pardons need to be reformed but a lot more things do as well. Like the fact it’s literally impossible to do a constitutional amendment now.

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      Biden delivered big wins that should be propelling us now except that trump destroyed all of it in six months.

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        Biden and his admin did some good things, for sure, but by and large he simply continued entrenching the status quo and didn’t meaningfully listen to the American populace - unless it was through the filter of the DNC/DCCC’s fuckwitted consultant class, who have been a cripplingly parasitic negative influence on the party for basically the entire span of time I’ve been politically aware. And that’s pretty much exactly why I’ve never registered “Democratic” (I live in a semi-closed primary state, so as “unaffiliated”, I tell them which party I want to primary with), though I basically always vote for Democratic candidates in the general when there is a Republican challenger for the office in question.

        Remember:

        nothing will fundamentally change.

        I believed him when he said it, and he sure as fuck followed through.

        Not to mention, his whole full-throated, carte blanche support of Israel in their genocide of Gaza (and I do mean to include the decades-long lead up to Oct 7, as well as the IDF’s retaliatory / punitive / expansionist / ethnic-cleansing actions after that point). Schumer’s one of the few politicians off the top of my head who’s more of an Israeli sycophant than Biden.

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          his whole full-throated, carte blanche support

          Let’s try not to rewrite history here.

          He publicly voiced disapproval. He threatened arms shipment cancellations. He worked to negotiate a peace deal.

          While those things ultimately didn’t work, they don’t fall under the “full throated carte blanche” category.

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            He publicly voiced disapproval.

            He lied, yes.

            He threatened arms shipment cancellations.

            And didn’t follow through.

            He worked to negotiate a peace deal.

            BeHiNd ThE ScEnEs

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          I disagree with parts of the analysis, but this:

          the DNC/DCCC’s fuckwitted consultant class, who have been a cripplingly parasitic negative influence on the party for basically the entire span of time I’ve been politically aware.

          I am 100% on board for. Their consultants suck and need to be set adrift as soon as possible. Hopefully republicans will pick them up and start losing constantly.

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        The internet loves to pretend Biden wasn’t one of the most progressive presidents we’ve ever had. The internet loves to fall for Republican and foreign disinformation and believe Biden didn’t net a ton of important wins for Americans.

        It’s a combination of disinformation and people being too lazy to pay attention to current events.

        Was Biden the best president in U.S. history? Nah. Was he actually a good president? Yeah, he was.

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    The real trick: Republicans know their best shot of winning elections is to energize their base with “Democrats are going to destroy the country so you must go vote” while at the same time promoting the narrative “Democrats won’t do anything so you should bother voting” to de-energize the opposition.

    It’s a very very obvious strategy being deployed here.

    But go on and pretend you’re an edgy contrarian while spreading the exact narrative the fascists want you to spread.

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          Biden passed like 7 major bills

          Yeah one was blocking the rail strike. Really fighting for the American people that guy. /s

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            Increasing the cost of living and shortages in supplies like food, water, and fuel massively impact the little guy all across the country. They did get a wage increase and better health benefits / sick leave, and the strike did go on for months. It literally could have shut down many local businesses, caused hardships for millions, caused shortages for many industries, not just the billionaire owned ones either.

            The alternative is, eat all that cost for millions of people, and eventually after who knows how long one side caves. This is a lose-lose situation, and you can say he chose the wrong option, but to frame this as “he just chose to block the rail strike to side with the corporations” is just not accurate.

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      Conservatives will always be organized by bigotry and greed, which coincidentally are the things you need to be rich.

      Dems fight over party ideals and nitpick each other to death.

      In the primaries, be nitpicky. In the election, vote the guy who wont endanger millions of your neighbors and friends. Vote the guy who wont stuff money in billionaire pockets. Even if theyre pandering, a blue conservative is better than a red one.

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        This is just more of the centerist bullshit that’s led us to where we are in the past 25 years.

        Stop defending obstructionists who vote for trash candidates in the Democratic primaries.

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      This one is actually encouraging people to get involved and put in the work to fix the party. It isn’t like all the other posts I’ve seen that seem designed to discourage people from voting.

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        None of it discourages people from voting. Y’all are wilin out.

        Vote for the lesser of two evils, but don’t tell me to stop calling them evil. They are. It’s disingenuous.

        I’m starting to think you folk are the ones getting paid to squash talk of reforming the party. You on payroll for a corporate dem?

        Or maybe calling everyone who disagrees with me a paid shill is idiotic. But hey, you all started it.

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          They’re definitely on some kind of payroll. People can’t be so bored that they fight this hard for do nothing geriatrics.

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      Yup.

      Literally what happened last election.

      Got a bunch of fools to throw their hands up with the Democrat party and then fascists waltzed in and are currently speed running destroying our futures.

      You can have problems with the Dems and that’s fine and dandy, but if you’re posting about how they’re not going to accomplish anything (fundamental lie if you pay attention at all) then you’re just helping fascists continue to obliterate our futures.

      Bottom Line: The Democrats MUST win.

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    Reminder that it makes a whole hell of a lot more sense to reform the Democrat party than to shit on your vote and throw it away with a non-viable 3rd party that isn’t even trying to be viable.

    If you vote 3rd party you will watch your country burn while you cross your fingers and hope for a miracle.

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      I agree. It’s also important to remember that that is not the destination, but the first milepost on the way to course correcting the entire system, even when following the incrementalist way to change one piece at a time.

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      It would make sense if it were possible. It isn’t. The entire structure of the party as an organization is designed to ensure that no grassroots movement can ever wrest power away from the powerful.

      But I encourage you to try your best. 10 years of busting my ass and becoming a paid campaign staffer was what finally made me see the light. The Third Way Foundation controls access to every single meaningful lever of power. Elected Dems like AOC and Bernie are tolerated because they help keep leftists hopeful, which keeps them voting Blue, which keeps them from ever genuinely organizing to become a threat to the Neoliberal agenda the Dems exist to defend. Their policy proposals are punchlines to the people who actually control the legislative agenda. They will only ever be brought up for an vote occasionally when the deck is stacked solidly against them to “prove” how they’re guaranteed losing moves, despite the fact that Medicare for All polls much better than any politician that opposed it.