If history is any guide they’ll enthusiastically fund his every whim.
He still does. Progressives are winning more and more seats, eventually the DNC will be replaced and be useful brick by brick.
Progressives are winning more and more seats
Can’t undersell the amount of progress DSA and its allies have made in the last six years.
But we’re talking about half a dozen Congressional seats. A smattering of state and local races. Lots of people who are totally untested and unproven. Lots of people - like El Sayud and Mamdani - who seem more than happy to meet Zionists and bigot reactionaries halfway.
And they’re squaring off against legions of ICE goons, corporate drones, and fascist billionaires fully on board with mass extermination of their opponents.
Look at Bo French down in Texas. This is a guy who is advocating a Holocaust of 100M people across the US. He’s polling even with Jon Rosenthal, a Democrat who wants to maybe raise taxes on energy companies a little bit.
the DNC will be replaced
I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for it to happen.
Didn’t the DNC largely get taken over by progressives already? Which is probably why progressives are sometimes winning primaries now: The DNC aren’t ratfucking them anymore.
For those complaining that the DNC not endorsing progressives until after they won the primary – that’s what “not ratfucking the primary” looks like. The DNC is not supposed to play favorites in the primary.
It’s going to take a while before there’s traction in actual Congress, though, because they take longer to replace. But as soon as you have enough progressives to get actual leverage, you’re going to start seeing a lot more happening.
Not even close. DNC is largely a conservative, neoliberal party.
Those progressives you cheer for still uphold the oppressive systems that keep the working class down.
Who are you cheering for?
So obviously we should try to make everything as bad as possible specifically in America, so that it’s not a geopolitical threat to the SMO?
Do you have an opinion on warm water ports you’d like to share with the class?
“A different opinion to mine? Clearly an evil foreigner!”
The kind of massive change we’d all like to have happen doesn’t come instantly - at least not without massive upheaval and destruction that would waste a LOT of lives.
Sure. Doesn’t mean people can’t have feelings about it though. The dems have done very little to effectively fight the GOP. Doesn’t mean OP won’t support them but expressing a little frustration is not undermining anything.
This isn’t expressing a little frustration. This is promoting apathy and inaction, which in the past has been part of coordinated election interference schemes by the Russians.
The more you know🌠
One of the big reason Democrats have lost is that they have this toxic impulse to label any criticism as a Russian or Republican conspiracy. There’s a “speak no evil” mindset that pretends that squashing criticism actually helps. Instead it just makes people bitter. The Dems tried the “sit down and shut up” approach in 2024 over Gaza. There’s nothing voters hate more than being told they have to shut up about the issues they care about. It sends a crystal-clear message:
We want your votes, not your voices. Sit down, shut up, and do what you’re told. If you don’t vote for us, the bad cop over there will win.
And the toxic positivity “the more you know” crap is also a trope repeated by Democrats that love losing elections.
“Express any criticism of party? Clearly you’re an evil foreigner!”
Those progressives you cheer for
Make up maybe 5-10% of the party as a whole. They’re not the problem
With Gruesome Newsom being the possible front leader of the Democrats for presidential candidates they’re utterly not hiding they don’t care about human rights. They’d happily walk back LGBT+ rights to stay in office at this point.
I’m not American, so I know very little about newscom, what’s so bad about him?
Simply put, transphobe. Uses the same rhetoric as the far right. As well his policies on homelessness and handling it in Cali is pretty piss poor. He’s another example of fascist lite put forward by the Dems who are trying to appear more right.
https://calmatters.org/politics/2025/03/newsom-transgender-athletes/I saw quite a lot of positive stuff about him on reddit, I’ll assume just a passable PR team?
He’s like the definition of smarmy rich liberal.
And yeah, he’s anti-trans. Which needs to become a nonstarter for Democrats
He’s a typical MAGA in Democrat clothing. He criticizes Trump, but he doesn’t do anything to punish the Sociopathic Oligarchs that we all know are the heart of the problem. He is perfectly cast for his role as the President where nothing much happens, and MAGA will rise for another bite of Treason Profits.
he seemed to have fell of the news as of late.
Interesting crap. The only truth here is if you don’t vote, you have voted for the winner. All this business about not liking a party or candidate and not voting is essentially just voting for the winner. Not very smart and just planning to roll over and take it.
HA HA BOTH SIDES
We intend to hold fire to their feet
I heard this so much during Biden’s term of “holding Dems accountable” and “we’re pushing them left”.
Then Biden did this right before leaving (not even accounting for all the anti-worker shit he did before then during his time in office). Yeah we really held them accountable and pushed him left.
Lol, you really think anyone believes this anymore?
I have to delude myself into sleeping at night somehow
Must be getting hard; at this point BlueMaga liberals are having to memory hole the entire Biden administration
Yes, we do. The next Dem Congress isn’t going to be like the last one. There are already a bunch of angry progressives, and a bunch of Dems that want off the leash, and there will be a lot more coming in after the Midterms. These aren’t feckless losers like Schumer, these people chose to run because they’re PISSED OFF at the Schumers and Jeffries in Congress. They are not going to accept orders to back off of MAGA punishment.
Dems that don’t go along with a committed strategy of crushing MAGA, will find themselves being investigated, too. What are you trying to hide? MAGA will be the prime target, but it’s perfectly okay if we haul out some Democrat trash, too, starting with Schmuck & Jeffries.
This is what we demand, and we are electing Progressives and new blood to do it, and handing Dems majorities in BOTH Houses. They BETTER go after MAGA, or we’re coming after them, too.
Yeah man, I’m sure Lucy will let you kick the football this time.
They BETTER go after MAGA, or we’re coming after them, too.
Uhuh, by voting for them again?
Defeatism right before an election? That’s weird. It’s not like we have the opportunity to kick Republicans to the curb or anything…
I love how a simple and obvious critique of the perpetual failure which is the Democratic party is almost routinely met with the Hey this isn’t cheerleading?! retort.
The timing is suspicious, full stop. After we kick out the corrupt, incompetent, wanna-be fascist Republicans, I’ll probably loudly criticize Dems before you…
No you won’t, liberals are cowards that don’t see they abale fascists
No it’s not. Don’t be a fucking moron.
Democrats have earned every fucking iota of critism that can be mustered and it’s 💯 deservered.
What actually hurts Democrats is this unnecessary, thoughtless, cheerleader protection you offer them.
Democrats can’t do better if they don’t change, entirely, as a party, and guarding them from well warranted critism has done lasting and material damage to their ability to be a bulwark agaisnt fascism. You hurt Democrats chances when you dismiss critiques of them with this kind of “but Republicans bad too” shit.
As an enterpuse, Blue MAGA is largely respond for the revivL of fascism and this act you are putting on, it’s central how that process functions.
Name-calling, classy. The sign of a well-reasoned argument.
Also, what are you even talking about!? The issue is timing, as in "let’s not give the asshole fascists and MAGAts this election happened right fucking now. You haven’t addressed the main topic we’re discussing at all! No one in this thread is saying not to criticize Democrats…
Fresh out of the nest I suppose…
This has been a primary topic of conservation on political lemmy, and before that reddit, for years. You being new to a discussion doesn’t mean the discussion is new. As a collective we’ve been having this discussion for a very long time. No, its not a coincidence that critiques about how objectively anti-democratic the Democratic party is often emerge around elections. There is an election, its time for critiques like that. Its also not your fucking place to decide for other people when is the right time for criticism or not. You can deal with the critique on its merits, or you can shut the fuck up. Otherwise you are doing precisely what I’m accusing you of.
No one in this thread is saying not to criticize Democrats…
No see thats exactly what’s happening and its exactly what you are doing. And it spoiled the election for Democrats in '24 by allowing them to continue with an internal process which is structurally manufactured to ignore the will of the voting population.
It’s not name calling if it is factually true
oh no someone’s robbing the bank, somebody do something!
don’t worry, I’ve got a banana peel and some lint from my pocket!
how is that gonna help?
you’re being defeatist!
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Thank you for your service. Following suit…
“People who held a belief in the past still hold it now? How suspicious!”
Get this bullshit out of here? You are the liberal in a communist space, the one that doesn’t belong is you
*anarchist
Ah yes, removing a top comment from the thread is such a power move. It’s so cool how you seem to know my political views, please tell me everything else I think.
Thin skinned cowards here.
Since I was not clear the first time, your ideology is not welcome here. This is a communist space. This is a leftist space. Democrats are not left-wing, they are not leftist, they are fascists. We have a fascist in the White House because of fascist Democrats getting him elected.
You are the reason no one stays on lemmy
If you’re so fragile and thin-skinned that you can’t handle criticism of your own beliefs, you don’t belong on the internet
Agreed
I’m so confused.
Winning over one voter is much harder than convincing someone not to vote. It’s exactly the sort of strategy an effective political actor would engage in to win when faced with a deeply unpopular party.
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Only during election time? Sus as hell…
It really gives away just how much you shitlibs go out to brunch between elections that you assume they only say this during elections
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It couldn’t possibly be the Democrats doing nothing that causes voters to be apathetic, rather than users of an obscure social media platform complaining. I mean, c’mon, we gotta be realistic!
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That’s a mighty fine strawman.
That’s not true, didn’t a couple of them sit down in protest a while back?
they also wrote nyt best seller books in protest, and did photo ops in protest, traded stocks in protest, secretly met with kushner in protest.
schumer and hakeem will do this 100%.
Which is why the MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries has to get the hook and be dragged off stage. They are 50% responsible for the rise, and re-rise of MAGA, and they e done nothing to earn a third chance at containing them.
It’s time we give competent, committed people the job of resisting MAGA, since these two have fully proved that they are not up to the task. In fact, when this is over, and we’re investigating everybody, we should also check into these two losers, because we’ll almost certainly find they were collaborating with MAGA all along. If that’s true, then they should end up in jail with their MAGA friends.
Best case scenario we get a dozen DSA’s elected and their presence numerically forces a small measure of change. The centrists are probably insider trading off their security briefings and aren’t going to do anything to stop the golden goose.
The fascists already won. Your only power now is local, as we saw in LA, Portland, Chicago, and Minneapolis earlier this year.
They’ll use the power of strong finger wags though.
Maybe even another letter
That’ll show’em!
Posts like this only help the fascists. They have no other purpose.
Buddy I think they’ve got all the help they need.
The accountability Democrats created after a literal attempted coup, and having the power to do something about it for four years:
We’re here because of the repeated and reliable failure of Democrats. And that failure is possible because of commentors like you.
Democrats are the fascists that help enable fascism to flourish
So you support Republicans then?
Same coin
