cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/13118934
Josh Turek of Iowa, Democrat, comes out with one of the worst anti-trans ads yet.
Not only is it an anti-sports ad, it proposes a ban on federal funding for gender affirming care. That would hit all medicaid and medicare patients, and any ACA federally-subsidized plans as well.
Jesus Christ, why are liberals like this?
No, I don’t agree with the statement because I understand what it means in context, because I’m not a fucking idiot. You also know what it means, you’re just pretending that you don’t for the sake of wordplay and pedantry.
No, I have an assumption flavored by the context that we live in.
Let’s play along with your obvious bad faith game. If Turek did mean that cis males wouldn’t be allowed in women’s sports, then why would he say that? There is no debate or discussion over that whatsoever. The only discussion is over trans women, who are often misgendered and called “males,” as Turek very obviously did here. So there is no other reasonable interpretation.
Your stupid fucking language games and technicalities and weaseling, none of it fools a single person, including yourself. You are saying it in obvious bad faith.
We both absolutely can be sure, and we both are absolutely sure how he meant it. You’re just lying and pretending not to.
You shouldn’t vote for either one. If I’m helping her by saying don’t vote for him, I’m also helping him by saying don’t vote for her. So you’re completely full of shit on that point too.
A person is born and assigned the gender of male.
Later they transition to female.
Do you believe they are:
A. Male
B. Female
No, because decades of statistics show that Dems win with high turnout, and Republicans win in low turnout…
That’s just facts, the more people in America that vote, the more progressives win.
Depressing turnout, helps Republicans and trump.
Why do you spend so much time helping trump?
B. Female. Obviously.
Now ask Turek, because the only thing that matters here is what he meant when he said it.
Except that we obviously don’t have to ask him, because there is no reasonable interpretation of what he said other than that he was referring to trans women as “males.”
Now that I’ve answered your question, it’s your turn to answer mine. Why would he say it if he wasn’t talking about trans people? I know you won’t answer, because there is no answer, because we both know exactly what he meant. You’re just going to weasel your way out of it like the utter slime you are.
Why didn’t you?
Why can you make an interpretation and it’s fact unless someone disproves it?
Do you know thats a common propaganda technique?
No, what matters is the only other option in this election openly says she wants to do even worse than you think thebDem might. And I think we’ll agree that Republicans always want worse than they admit.
Like, his opponent was one of the few House reps against disclosing any Epstein info…
It’s a binary choice, it matters what the only other alternative is, especially when on the narrow topic you’ve chosen to make most important, the Republican is worse.
I don’t understand what’s hard to understand here.
Worst case scenario, he’s better than the Republican on this and every other issue.
Is it the Epstein stuff? You want more republicans in the Senate to block the Epstein list?
Oh look, no answer! What a shock!
Not responding to anything else until you do. You shitlibs lie as easily as breathing. You justify blatant lies the same way you justify selling out minorities and supporting genocide. You are despicable, lying, backstabbing scum.
It’s the same way, from top to bottom. Y’all can see how easily people like @[email protected] lie. The only thing separating people like that from their politicians is that the politicians are professionals at it, and don’t offen do it in such a blatant and amateurish way. But they’re all liars through and through. And why wouldn’t they be? Their “morals” are all about “the ends justify the means,” if lying helps them get ahead, of course they will. The thing to understand here is that people like that, as soon as they get in power, will see that working for the billionaires and corporations against the people is the best way to get ahead. So they do that, and they lie to us, exactly the same way @[email protected] is lying to everyone right here.
This is exactly why we shouldn’t support these people, and why we need our own party that will kick out careerists, opportunists, and class traitors, and will stand in solidarity with everyone, regardless of this or that minority status. It’s the only way forward, the only way that we can unite the people and resist the billionaires and the fascists! Telling these lying, careerist shitlibs to get fucked is the first step toward real progress.
And…
You think the time to do that is two weeks before our chance to limit trump?
It wasn’t back in the primary, or even months ago when candidates might have been able to replace them.
The time for you to convince people to not vote D is two weeks before the election?
What candidate in the Iowa Senate race are you going to vote for?
Or I guess, what candidate do you think people should vote for? Or are you just straight up telling people not to vote at all?
Still no answer. See, it’s exactly like I said.
There’s no reason to engage with anything they say, because they’ve proven themselves to be a liar, through and through. Every word they speak is bad faith, and should simply be dismissed and disregarded.
If you engage with them, they’ll just lie, on every point. They believe that this shitlib is actually going to work for them, which is utterly delusional, but regardless it’s what they believe. So long as they believe that, they have zero reservations about lying to advance their agenda!
Kick these lying shitlibs to the curb! No support for transphobes! Show them what happens when they abandon our loved ones!
MAGA gets elected?
If Iowans don’t vote for this guy, this shithead becomes a Senator:
https://ashleyhinson.com/issues/
I feel like at least one of those would be enough for you to say the Dem is better than the MAGA alternative
Answer my question, or you’re admitting that every word I’ve said about you is true.