This got removed from politics because “Video links are not allowed” apparently? Pretty weird considering that most politicians say stuff on video nowadays and not really writing articles anymore since the invention of the radio pretty much lol. Hope it’s a better fit here, this is the kind of stuff people should be aware of.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/73859928

cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/13118934

Josh Turek of Iowa, Democrat, comes out with one of the worst anti-trans ads yet.

Not only is it an anti-sports ad, it proposes a ban on federal funding for gender affirming care. That would hit all medicaid and medicare patients, and any ACA federally-subsidized plans as well.

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      Or just don’t vote for a fucking conservative. “Vote blue no matter who” is how we got dems like this on the ballot. If the left signals to them that they have our vote no matter what their policies are, then their best strategy for getting elected is to appeal to the right.

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        No, we got dems like this on on the ballot by people not voting in the primaries. If people would get off their asses and participate and vote in the primaries, we could have good candidates. Since it’s too late to change that, though, the only choice now is to vote for the lesser evil. Anything else means letting the greater evil win by default.

        Now is not the time for a moral stand. Now is the time to be pragmatic. Don’t vote for what is effectively a Nazi just because the other candidate isn’t perfect.

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          As far as I know, there was no indication that this dude is a massive transphobe prior to the primaries. This needs to lose him votes. I’m not encouraging anyone to vote for what is effectively a nazi, I’m encouraging people to vote for someone who isn’t a transphobe.

          I am so sick and fucking tired of you people acting like we want perfection. I’m not saying not to vote for him because he isn’t perfect, I’m saying not to vote for him because he wants to harm trans people. The DNC supports candidates like this because they appeal to the right, and that’s the only demographic they need to earn votes from.

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          Maybe you should just accept that this candidate has lost the trans vote and move on instead of demanding trans people and their allies support their demise. It’s not trans people’s fault this candidate is anti-trans. Don’t go after trans folks just because their voting decisions aren’t “perfect”. When a candidate says he is anti-trans, it seems absurd to castigate trans allies for believing him.

          Sure, it’s too late to get a different Dem candidate, but that just makes it more important that the Dem candidate doesn’t make dumbass decisions to needlessly throw away voters for zero benefit. It seems like a bad use of your time to go after the many people in the voter base this candidate is alienating. It would be more efficient to rebuke this single candidate and demand he apologize.

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            No no, because that would mean we actually have to take responsibility instead of blaming minorities, and we’re too busy waiting in line for brunch. /s

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          Nah. I’m trans. If the Democrats are going to abandon me and my people, then I think every queer person should just stay home and not vote at all. I will not vote for the promise of “we’ll save democracy but also liquidate trans people.” If you’re not willing to stand up for minorities, then we can all go to hell together.

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            Are you even from Iowa? Either way, you are screwed. If you don’t see the benefit of voting for the lesser evil, you do you, but all that does is make when you do have to choose the lesser evil be in even more dire circumstances.

            I’d rather choose a ban on federal funds being gaslit as “liquidating trans people”, which is no different to Republican candidate Ashley Hinson’s position, to go through the majority least likely to allow it to go through, Democrats. Meanwhile, a MAGA dominated senate has allowed actual liquidation of trans people from serving in places like the military and other federal agencies.

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              A ban of federal funding for gender affirming health care, i.e. denying health care to a marginalised group of people who can’t otherwise access it, is quite literally a genocidal act in a way that a ban on serving in the military doesn’t even come close to.

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                It’s actually not, and that’s crazy talk. People still being able to perform gender affirming health care on their own dime is much more ideal than being liquidated from even being part of major aspects of society.

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                  You mean their own dime that they don’t have, hence qualifying for federal assistance?

                  Buying HRT of the internet and self-medicating without medical supervision (which does have serious risks) is relatively affordable, and the fact that it isn’t outright banned (yet) is something, but without insurance that covers it, medically supervised HRT is out of reach of many, and any kind of surgery is out of reach of the vast majority. Need I remind you that every serious medical association considers these things to be essential health care?

                  The denial of specifically this health care, which is essential to trans people, is a deliberate infliction of living conditions calculated to bring about the destruction of trans people who have no other means, as a group.

                  The US has been gearing up for a trans genocide (per the The Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention) for a long time, and you are proving your willingness to be a collaborator in it.

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              Don’t lie to yourself. What the candidate is advocating for will result in dead Trans people. With 100% certainty. If you are okay with dead Trans people as long as it furthers your aims then be honest at least.

              But telling Trans people they have to vote for someone who wants them to die is simply evil.

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    ugh indiana. that and constant. they will raise your taxes. we just take away your freedoms is all but taxes. oh you don’t want that. its like. you can’t afford things and its because of taxes. ugh. no its not. taxes are a small amount of my monthly costs. you know why I can’t afford things. medical.

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    Where do these gouls get these ideas? They all seem to have the same ridiculous ideas at the same time. Who is telling all the puppets what to say? Is there a group chat somewhere?

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      The oligarchs who want a culture wars so we don’t start fighting back in the class wars. That’s who is telling them.

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      Democratic consultants like Third Way or Center for American Progress. These consultants tell Dems to appeal to conservatives moderates by doing stupid shit like this.

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    Remember to vote BLUE no matter WHO! It’s IMPORTANT to vote Democrat so we can CHANGE things!

    -People voting for El-Sayed’s REPUBLICAN Opponent AFTER they voted for Independent Andrew Cuomo in New York!

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    The number of people suddenly pretending to care about women’s sports is incredible. The number of people who don’t realise that placing these types of requirements would necessitate a system for checking and verifying that would be… horrifying, is incredible.

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      “We need you to pee in this cup. No, I mean we need to see you do it. No, I mean we need to see if you have a penis or not.”

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    most politicians say stuff on video nowadays and not really writing articles anymore since the invention of the radio pretty much

    …what?

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      It used to be that politicians wrote articles for newspapers in order to communicate with the wider public. This practice has been obsoleted by radio somewhat but definitely by video and TV. Which is why I think it’s odd for a “politics” comm to ban video, and focus on “only articles”, since that way it’s not really possible to post what the politicians are saying directly but only filtered through someone elses article.

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    All of my queer family is not voting for either demagogues. I am done being nice.
    If you’re a Democrat, you’re going on the woodchipper too. Better use than genociding us because you can’t hold your party accountable.

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        What difference would it make to minorities if either of them come to power, if both of them are anti-trans. He will just be a blue MAGA. He will be a John Fetterman.

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          Swinging the House/Senate control allows Dems to set congressional agenda, take more control of subcommittees, and (theoretically) extert expected pressure on the executive branch. Having duds isn’t a zero sum prospect and I’m tired of politics ratcheting right—let’s make progress in the other direction.

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          The point is that the fettermans and the manchins stand out as spoilers precisely because they break party lines. The guy in this post is like them.

          The flip side is that any republican who doesn’t act like a rabid fascist gets called a “RINO” and gets primaried.

          If that’s “the same” to you then your worldview must be very tiny.

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          If you’re fine with letting others chose for you, do your thing. The outcome won’t be the same either way.

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              I don’t care who you are. But based on your responses, I’m guessing you’re not old enough to vote anyway, so it’s moot at this point.

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                lmfao, ageist too.

                funny a dengist can’t even find my public DoB I’ve formatted in three personal🪪 public formats already.

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                “I literally don’t give a fuck who you are, vote for my genocidal, anti-human rights party or shut the fuck up, filth.”

                Wow what a winning message, lmfao.

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    Plenty of space for all politicians at the bottom of the sea. We don’t discriminate. All welcome down there…

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    I don’t even get why democrats are releasing anti-trans ads (I mean, I do, and it’s because all the political advisors say it’s a divisive issue despite having no evidence of that). Like, even if they don’t care about trans rights at all, they can just make ads that don’t mention it. It can only hurt them for taking a diet republican side on an issue because it can alienate their more left voters. If AIPAC can be smart enough to promote a progressive and split the progressive vote in a primary, why can’t democrats be smart enough to realize that anti-trans ads can only hurt them?

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      It’s because establishment Democrats are just as bought as Republicans, and the oligarchs are currently more interested in establishing fascism than maintaining detente between the two parties.

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      It’s Iowa, he’s not going to win anyway.

      He’s an idiot who can’t read the room, and shouldn’t be running as a democrat and should lose all his endorsements for this.

      But he didn’t have a chance in hell of winning anyway, and this reeks of a spoiler campaign like a fetterman or a manchin

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        All other things aside, he definitely has a chance to win. Perhaps not likely, but 40% chance is close to a toss up.

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        Last I checked he had a very slight lead in the polls. Within the margin though. Curious to see if this blatantly anti human rights stance he’s suddenly taken will sink the campaign.

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          Enjoy two more years of what you voted for asshat. And now, enjoy reading EVERTHING I have to say, knowing I e not seen one more work of your propaganda spreading bullshit.

          Blocked.

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            Enjoy two more years of what you voted for asshat.

            I voted straight ticket democrat already. All the way down. Even voted for unopposed democrats. On the first day the polls were open. Waited an hour and 15 minutes to do it. Insane turnout for where I live. Especially for a midterm.

            You don’t care because I’m critical of the genocide wing.

            knowing I e not

            Someone’s taking their anger out on their keyboard.

            Blocked.

            And the amount of listening you’re doing remains unchanged.

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          Voting is standing up for them. Not voting is surrendering their fate to the decisions of others.

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            Voting for stripping people of their rights is standing up for those people and their rights.

            What kind of 1984 bullshit is this? You should be embarrassed to have thought this, let alone typed it.

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        Transphobe’s like this Josh Turek are the surrender to maga, you get that right? This shit is what maga wants and they’re prepared to deliver

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          Too late to have a different candidate. Pretty sure Repubs would prefer he loses regardless of how often he might align with their vote considering if the majority swings Dem, then they can set the agenda.

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        You know how people complain that Republican voters just see the “R” next to the name and just vote for it? How they don’t actually listen to what politicians are saying and that’s why their representatives are garbage?

        You’re allowed to demand better from your politicians instead of demanding blind obedience from fellow voters.

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              I honestly don’t care at this point. As long as people vote against the fascist. Everything else can be sorted out later.

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                I agree that when it comes time to vote 90% fascist is better than 100% fascist, but that doesn’t mean being 90% fascist gets a free pass to “sort it out later” just because they’re sightly better than 100% fascist.

                Pushing back on their bullshit now gives them a chance to demonstrate their ability to listen to their constituents and apologize for it, which also gives them a chance to regain the votes they are losing from people who won’t tolerate it.

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                  Cool. So you’re willing to let people suffer so you can teach politicians a lesson? Hint: they don’t care.

                  THAT’S WHY WE NEED TO VOTE THEM OUT.

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    How is this still a thing in the Dem party? Instead of joining the bullies, we should be embarrassing the asshole dems who think Trans people are anything other than people trying to exist just like we are. Am old enough to remember when dems joined the same politicized bullshit against gay people in the 80s, and then satanic panic in the 90s. Can we fucking grow up and learn something for once??

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      Because it was still the view of many of the people who would have called themselves Republicans in say 2010 but realized Trump wasn’t good for the country or left the party for other reasons. They didn’t just disappear, they joined the only other viable party and helped to shift it further right. Like when Desantis won Florida Governor in 2022, he won against then Democrat candidate Charlie Christ, whom was the Republican governor of Florida from 2007-2011. Christ didn’t change all of his views, his views were suddenly just left of MAGA, but still right of where Democrats were in 2006