At this rate, all games made in Unreal will automatically need AI disclosures.
I don’t think that everyone uses Ai, even with Unreal. Unless there are features that has to be used and are basically Ai components.
Tim Sweeney owns the Unreal engine, so I think their point was that Unreal itself is going to be so AI slop-coded that games made on it will need disclosures because they came out of the Unreal bucket.
Ah, I see. Well I didn’t think of that one. Yeah, that’s a valid point. If the Engine itself is vibe slopped, well then the game developed with the Engine is basically Ai assisted / partially generated.
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There’s a real economic cost to [blah blah crybaby way of saying AI disclosures]
Yes. There is. Because informed consumers vote with their wallets. As it should be. Moron.
I notice slopcoders often maintain that “slop code is just as good as code written by humans- in fact it is better!” while also refusing to clearly label their output as slop.
The Epic Store has always been anti-consumer so it’s no surprise he defends that kind of practice.
Every 10th item on rhe epic store is soft core FMV fantasy girlfriend porn.
I’m not sure what your point is because Steam is absolutely flooded with porn games, especially since the rise of genAI.
It’s not about availability, it’s about marketing. I don’t stumble across porn games on steam, but I regularly do on Epic.
Really? They’re all over my Steam front page. And I’ve never bought a single one.
Do you have adult games toggled off in Steam settings? That may be why you never see them.
You have to opt to see NSFW stuff on steam.
It gives consumers free games and takes a smaller cut from the developers than steam. All corporations have mutually exclusive interests with the consumer tho.
So do developers on Steam, you literally have a filter for free games. While also having user reviews, forums, a sane refund policy, regional pricing, curators, funding Linux driver development, as well as a shopping cart (though I heard Epic Store finally put enough braincells together to get that one too).
Step 1 of the enshittification timeline, yes.
They do that to try to gain marketshare. They should try to just stop being shitty instead and improve their client. And get off Xitter.
They do that to try to gain marketshare.
This is every single action any entity which exists to extract profit from you that isn’t immediately increasing revenue or decreasing expenses/wages.
They should try to just stop being shitty
Once again, this is done to gain marketshare
It’s weird as fuck to see people with loyalty to one corporation or another.
Sue. My point is they’re not doing it out of the good of their heart. They’re doing it in lieu of actually making it a good platform to buy from.
No corporation has ever done anything out of the good of its heart because they do not have hearts, you are still treating them like people instead of entities that exist exclusively to extract money from you while giving as little money to its workers as possible.
They’re doing it in lieu of actually making it a good platform to buy from.
Nah, giving the workers more money and me free games does more to make a platform viable than features. But doing shit everyone hates like filling your store with slop games that can’t be identified until you’ve already paid is a dumb decision.
You’re an idiot that only cares about getting free stuff. You are arguing against people having “loyalty to one corporation or another” while endlessly defending the objectively worse company simply because you like to get free games…
It gives consumers free games
Wow, amazing. Nevermind that most those giveaways are on sales for peanuts anyway. And you get them on garbage launcher.
and takes a smaller cut from the developers than steam.
Great, they take smaller cut. At a low, low cost of being a black hole of exposure. But hey! They do take a smaller cut from the two copies you do sell.
At this point he has whined about it so much that everyone’s going to know the game uses AI, even if they don’t disclose it. He would have genuinely being better off shutting up about it.
He’s somewhere here in North Carolina, right? EpicFuckupSoftware is based in Cary now? Do we have a more precise fix on his location?
Go away Sweeney-weenie. Go away.
Sweeny-weenie take your beanie and quietly floss away
Epic is tripling down with AI features in the next Unreal Engine - it makes sense that he wants to do away with the disclosures. It’s not the dumbest business play ever, I’m pretty confident it will help further cement Unreal Engine as the “go-to” for games development (I’m not happy about it though). Don’t like the guy, haven’t since they dumped UT for Fortnite, almost nothing good has come from the success of that game.
I don’t know. “Made with Unreal Engine” is starting to be seen as a bad thing by players too, objectively or not…
At some point that’ll have to become a consideration when choosing an engine. Maybe using UE will end up meaning too many lost sales, like using obvious “AI” generated assets.
One can hope. I think with 5 and it’s poor optimization in most cases it took a big reputation hit, but I think it also must be such a good deal that it enticed a lot of developers to use it. Hell, AFAIK, the next Witcher games are going to be UE-based. Things like the traversal stutter amongst other long-standing issues sure did some reputational damage, but does that mean studios will actually care when they’re getting such a good cut to use the engine (over others)?
a couple months ago I was bitching (just to myself, not online) about all the shit I hate in modern games, when I noticed a lot of what i was bitching about was the same shit in different games.
and then i did some poking around, and found they were all UE5 games, and I hated the same shit in all those games because its the same UE5 shit thats in every game. games looking like shit because they want to use whatever quasi-software raytracy thing that UE5 has, and to make it work they force you into using resolution scaling.
I play at 1080p. I shouldnt have to use resolution scaling. In fact, I actively turn it off in every non-UE5 engine’d game… because they all run gloriously at max settings. UE5 games force on so much bullshit that it has to render at a lower resultion, on medium settings, just to get a playable frame rate at 1080. and the games look like smeared shit because of it.
Its literally to the point now that, no matter how much I might want a game, if it has UE, I’m not buying it.
He’s the Trump of the video gaming industry
Does everyone remember how Steam banned NFT games and Epic allowed them and how that absolutely catapulted them into success over their competitor? … no?
OK, well, but maybe this time?
Tim Sweeney is a professional cryer.
He calls it an “anti-technology smear campaign”, and claims that it’s akin to Valve forcing developers to list their political affiliation, i.e. whether they vote Republican or Democrat
Billionaires and false equivalencies, name a more iconic duo
I mean, if we’re going to compare apples and oranges, how about with a metaphor that makes sense? Like how if you sell food you have to list the ingredients used
Also, I would honestly cheer if valve made all the companies disclose campaign donations…
At least Gabe, a billionaire, doesn’t do that.
I would very much like to filter developers by affiliation and not give fascists money, actually. Thanks for the idea, good guy, Tim Sweeney.
Bombs and painted “truths”?
This. He wants to fabreeze a turd and sell it as sausage.
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Little bitch just wants to make money by selling AI generated slop without having to tell you it’s AI generated slop
“Why do we have to list ingredients, you can’t even taste the poison!”
Now you just made me think that at some point, there’s going to need to be a The Jungle for gaming. There’s going to be some kind of exposé on different major game developers and how they use AI and other shitty practices to make the most addicting games.
I don’t care if a game is made with AI as long as it’s good. I also don’t care if there’s a disclosure so others can make their own decision. Tim is an idiot.
ROFL Given the vibe-coded disaster of the Epic Store on Linux, he has bigger things to be concerned about. Like fixing his own mess. By hand, with actual humans programming and resolving issues. Catching a vibe won’t save Epic, real human effort will. What a loser.
Idiot could have made bank on goodwill if he donated to Heroic development, but chose to shoot himself in the foot with a hallucination gun instead lmao
Well, he’s a dumpster fire capitalist, there was no other outcome for him. Just another cooked in the head CEO that worshiping a nonexistent God to gain infinite wealth, which happens to be the idea of AI. Trying to manifest so hard he can’t think of intelligent business strategies…
He just had to be quiet and not say anything for Epic to be seen in a positive light. He hasn’t caught on to how much charima he lacks and how offputting he comes off as a person.
Why is this guy such a penis?
The article states that the AI that is disclosed in steam is about art/voice made by ai that makes it into the final release(stuff that’s easy to notice). Vibe coding does not need to be disclosed.
