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Mhmm. Yes.

Hold on. Let me play some mp3s I got off Napster on my winamp while I browse the world wide Web on my Netscape.

They all wore pants back then.

When are we going to learn that this doesn’t work.

Elon will make back that billion back in a short enough time that it won’t matter!

Start taking percentages of their income! Company needs to pay 30% of their revenue for ten years.

That’ll put the fear god in them!

It’s funny because Obama and Biden went their whole terms without a single time being associated with Nazism

I’m 39 ☹️ zero points.

Correct. The issue with Ukraine though is they fought back and didn’t give any land to Russia. Now Putin needs to save face and how many people put through the meat grinder to do that is irrelevant.

If the people who make llms are illegally acquiring copywrited material without paying for it then the creators of the llms should be held accountable by the authority figures that govern such crimes and infringments. Absolutely. That was never in question or a relevant point in this discussion.

You’re the one saying that copywrite shouldn’t exist and you should be able to use all and any material you wish for any reason at any time.

Insane American copywrite laws not withstanding copywrite generally protects the creators of their work from others profiting off of it.

You can make whatever art you want how ever you want. You just can’t make money on it or cost the owner anything by its production because it’s NOT YOURS! Why should you profit on something you don’t own?

Pirating not withstanding it has no relevance to this conversation.

That’s exactly what it is. But it’s not replicating the book to sell that same book to generate profit the author of the book won’t get.

It’s using the information in the book to generate its own data.

Are you aware of how llms work?

Is it though? Maybe this is just a reflection of our society if we’re able to be baited so easily?

I don’t like the guy but he did what he knew would work and now he’s president.

It’s our fault for voting like this and for being idiotic easily persuaded masses.

Right. So you also don’t understand what copyright is. Jesus. What is with you people.

“Copyright is a legal right that grants the creator of an original work exclusive control over its use and distribution for a limited time. This includes the rights to reproduce, distribute, display, and adapt the work. It protects literary, artistic, musical, and other creative works, preventing unauthorized use.”

I don’t understand what’s so confusing about this.

So you make an art music/picture/story and your friend comes around and makes the same art line I for line, word for word, color for color and makes a killing.

Too bad there wasn’t some kind of system in place that could have protected your art from intellectual theaft. But you’re right it course the company is hording it.

Yes. Thank you. You definitely don’t not only understand the difference between copyright and the freedom of speech you also fail to grasp simple concepts like freedom, commodity, and owned.

Not only that you invented a definition of your own to suit your needs to further your argument which you don’t even understand in its most fundamental state.

So you can be simply dismissed without any further adu.

Pretty sure you don’t understand the difference between copywrite and freedom of speech. But that’s ok.

No one is. That’s exactly the point.

Llms aren’t recreating copyrighted works. They’re drawing inspiration if you will. No copyright is being infringed.

Ya. These are the same people that continually try to take down Team Four Star for their satirization of DBZ because it made is actually better in many ways, from a country that has some of the worst satire and free use laws in the world.

Creators of copyrighted material in Japan can literally sue someone from making fun of their material.

Pardon me if I don’t take their crocodile tears seriously.

If you listen to the red hot chili peppers or watch a marvel movie or look at a DC comic and then go and make a song, movie, or painting inspired by the style of a certain creator that does not mean you have somehow violated those creators copyright. You don’t owe them any money because you took inspiration.

AI training on publicly available data does not infringe on copyright even if that data is somehow copyrighted.

And I know that many people on these kinds of platforms don’t like to hear this but the benefits of AI outweighs any potential legal issues copyright might entail.

Moreover, and I keep pointing this out over and over, you can’t have the same information free for individuals to use and have it paid for at the same time for corporations. You have to decide if you want that information free for all or for none.

Edit: yes yes. I know y’all don’t like these facts and yet they’re undisputed.

Ya. The ol’ “encouraging violence”. Pretty much the same thing as “national security”

Communism in theory: A stateless, classless, moneyless utopia where everyone shares resources based on need. Communism in practice: Authoritarian regimes, economic inefficiency, suppression of dissent, and a state that never ‘withers away’ like Marx imagined.

Every major attempt, USSR, Maoist China, Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge, has resulted in centralized power, mass repression, and economic collapse. The problem isn’t just ‘bad leaders’; it’s that a system requiring absolute cooperation and selflessness on a societal scale is fundamentally unworkable. Human nature, resource scarcity, and the need for incentives all get in the way.

So yeah, communism sounds nice on paper, but history proves it turns into a dystopia instead of a utopia every time.

We need to stop idealizing communism because it doesn’t work.