How does one go about figuring out this information? I’ve seen no evidence of censorship, but I also don’t really know what it would look like. I do I learn an instance has been defederated.
As a side note, we need to come up with a MUCH more simplified way to teach people about the fediverse if we’re ever going to get a large enough userbase. This shit is very complicated and confusing compared to more mainstream social media.
Just interacting with it and word of mouth, really. You can check federation, or scroll the drama communities, but at that point it becomes very “trryhard” for social media.
There are modlogs for all instances. Check them and you’ll see that you are being lied to. You’re right. .world doesn’t censor things that don’t violate the rules. And there is nothing at all in the rules that state you cannot criticize the DNC.
In fact, the person that’s bullshitting you, posts criticism there and is not censored. There’s TONS of criticism of democrats in .world. In fact it’s about 50% or the political content there.
Most of the people that cry about .world are either banned or have been temp banned many times for trolling and violating the actual rules of the instance. Not disagreeing.
Wow! Yikes! Does certainly seem like the mods like to remove and ban people a lot. A lot of what I’m seeing on there is for comments that while I don’t personally agree, don’t really seem like they should be removed. I’m not trying to make a judgement about their personal politics, but they are certainly making their own subjective decisions about a lot of things that should really be left to the wider community…
Be sure to note what reasons are shown for removal. Then check other instances and the communities issuing the removal/ban.
There are civility rules in most instances that where we don’t have to agree with what’s said, at least be civil about it. And what I find is that on .world, most removals are because actual rules are violated. Those having their content removed will cry that it’s bias, without even contest they violated the instance or community rules.
Whereas if you look at .ml, the admins override the mods are remove contend that clearly doesn’t violate any rules at all.
This is not me complaining ing because I have been one of the people removed/banned as I don’t contribute content to that place. Therefore there is no personal bias from me.
Now. Look at all the people whining about .world and check the modlogs of their content.
Therein is where you’ll find the point I’m making here.
You’ll see it the more time you spend here. There’s entire communities devoted to abusive moderation.
It’ll happen when enough people are gathered in one spot.
The point is, don’t accept face value what you’re told by anyone here. There are comment histories and modlogs that will prove or disprove much of what tire seeing on the topic.
I’ve never had my criticism of the American democratic removed nor my leftist views. They have removed posts and comments showing support of Luigi Mangione (in the context of killing the wealthy). And the instances in question that world has defederated are lemmygrad (which if the name isn’t a big enough hint is a Leninist instance where they praise the USSR and China, hate anything western and ban anyone disagreeing with them) and Hexbear (who are politically adjacent to Lemmygrad but were banned by most instance because they were always brigading other instances and being generally annoying).
The only reason the other person is bringing up the defederation as a negative is because he ideologically agrees with those two instances. You can decide for yourself whether to value his opinion or not.
How does one go about figuring out this information? I’ve seen no evidence of censorship, but I also don’t really know what it would look like. I do I learn an instance has been defederated.
As a side note, we need to come up with a MUCH more simplified way to teach people about the fediverse if we’re ever going to get a large enough userbase. This shit is very complicated and confusing compared to more mainstream social media.
Just interacting with it and word of mouth, really. You can check federation, or scroll the drama communities, but at that point it becomes very “trryhard” for social media.
There are modlogs for all instances. Check them and you’ll see that you are being lied to. You’re right. .world doesn’t censor things that don’t violate the rules. And there is nothing at all in the rules that state you cannot criticize the DNC.
In fact, the person that’s bullshitting you, posts criticism there and is not censored. There’s TONS of criticism of democrats in .world. In fact it’s about 50% or the political content there.
Most of the people that cry about .world are either banned or have been temp banned many times for trolling and violating the actual rules of the instance. Not disagreeing.
That’s what .ml does.
Where do you go to see the modlogs?
This will get to started. From there, you can search by mod, user, reason, etc….
Each interface should have a link somewhere that directs you to the logs.
Wow! Yikes! Does certainly seem like the mods like to remove and ban people a lot. A lot of what I’m seeing on there is for comments that while I don’t personally agree, don’t really seem like they should be removed. I’m not trying to make a judgement about their personal politics, but they are certainly making their own subjective decisions about a lot of things that should really be left to the wider community…
Be sure to note what reasons are shown for removal. Then check other instances and the communities issuing the removal/ban.
There are civility rules in most instances that where we don’t have to agree with what’s said, at least be civil about it. And what I find is that on .world, most removals are because actual rules are violated. Those having their content removed will cry that it’s bias, without even contest they violated the instance or community rules.
Whereas if you look at .ml, the admins override the mods are remove contend that clearly doesn’t violate any rules at all.
This is not me complaining ing because I have been one of the people removed/banned as I don’t contribute content to that place. Therefore there is no personal bias from me.
Now. Look at all the people whining about .world and check the modlogs of their content.
Therein is where you’ll find the point I’m making here.
I haven’t been on lemmy for all that long, but this thread is the first I’ve ever seen anyone complain about moderation.
You’ll see it the more time you spend here. There’s entire communities devoted to abusive moderation.
It’ll happen when enough people are gathered in one spot.
The point is, don’t accept face value what you’re told by anyone here. There are comment histories and modlogs that will prove or disprove much of what tire seeing on the topic.
I’ve never had my criticism of the American democratic removed nor my leftist views. They have removed posts and comments showing support of Luigi Mangione (in the context of killing the wealthy). And the instances in question that world has defederated are lemmygrad (which if the name isn’t a big enough hint is a Leninist instance where they praise the USSR and China, hate anything western and ban anyone disagreeing with them) and Hexbear (who are politically adjacent to Lemmygrad but were banned by most instance because they were always brigading other instances and being generally annoying).
The only reason the other person is bringing up the defederation as a negative is because he ideologically agrees with those two instances. You can decide for yourself whether to value his opinion or not.