(this is a sarcastic post meant to highlight the absurdity of some of the “greater good” rhetoric we’ve been hearing, especially around leaving vulnerable populations like disabled people behind in case of revolution, basically accelerationism)
(this is a sarcastic post meant to highlight the absurdity of some of the “greater good” rhetoric we’ve been hearing, especially around leaving vulnerable populations like disabled people behind in case of revolution, basically accelerationism)
If Kamala is mediocre what does that make Trump?
Secondly what is it about Trump that most strikes him as a conservative? What conservative values do you think he thinks about and values the most?
That Conservative value would be: an in party that the law protects, but does not bind.
Trump represents what Republicans want to vote for.
But this is about ideals and values of the left wing vs right.
What values and ideals does Trump have that appeals to them?
Lets see these “ideals” and “values” that Trump voters hold dear to their hearts:
So 3 out of 5 were about the economy 1 didn’t like illegal immigration 1 didn’t like war
So people voted largely for Trump because they felt the economy does better under him
And this looks to be backed up with this poll:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/651719/economy-important-issue-2024-presidential-vote.aspx
Is this a conservative value? a good economy? do leftists not value a good economy?
The term “the economy” here is too broad. Under Biden, by most statistical measures, the economy at a national level was doing pretty well with back to back 20%+ increases in the stock market in the last 2 years. But that wasn’t what these voters were referring to. They were referring to their personal finances, their family’s economy. Even the bits about not liking immigrants was their misdiagnosis that immigrants were negatively affecting their family economy. They think that immigrant being present meant that their family’s economy was reduced. They think that any taxes levied on them unfairly reduce their family’s economy. They were being squeezed from all directions, lower pay & job insecurity, sky high housing costs (“the rent is too damn high!”), out of control undischargable student loan burdens, bottomless health insurance and health care costs, spiraling home insurance costs from floods/wildfires/hurricanes, and finally the price of eggs.
These voters thought that this was a broken economy, but that is a misdiagnosis. This is an issue of income inequality. Too much of the wealth of the prosperous nation is confined to a tiny fraction at the top. And this mass of voters ended up voting to make this problem worse.
i agree with you but the guy i was arguing with claimed that kamala strayed too far from left wing values and thats why she didn’t win
my claim is something more fundamental, she didn’t assure voters that she would do better on the economy than trump
imo even if she did turn around and become the biggest pro Palestinian, transgender, anarchist, radical communist out there she still wouldn’t have won because the biggest issue to people was the local economy not gaza
she probably should have just offered everyone a tax cut
edit: and that trump has pretty much no values or ideals, just donald is #1 and he’s gonna fix everything and everyone else is wrong or stupid
I am not a fan of Bernie Sanders but I guarantee he would have won. The Democrats refused to give people the policies they wanted.
do you think aoc would have won as well?
Yes but like Bernie her goal is to not run so she can sheepdog leftists into the Democratic party. Not to run and win.