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Is it just the big signs that can’t understand $10+ print (fixed with some cardboard), or are the pump programming incapable of calculating higher price? Y2k 2.0
I had a Car Crisis back in '04 and the only car on the market I could afford was a beat up 86 Suburban that couldn’t have gotten more than 12mpg.
I think gas was hovering around $2.50 a gallon at that time and shit was dire, I can only imagine how rough it is for the poor souls nowadays that Need A Truck.
I rented minivans to move my kids into their dorms, and they had outstanding mileage. That was my “truck” requirement
The thing is, it seems like there are two primary groups of diesel truck owners. One, actually does truck stuff, they tow, they haul, they use it for work.
The others just really wish they were blue collar and so wants to be like the first group. They include a very diverse group of people who are insecure guys that don’t actually do anything terribly useful. They bought the truck but it only goes to an office, a costco, a school pickup line; their poorer brethren are similar, but just go to places like walmart, their ex-wife’s house, and a gas station (to buy cigarettes and put $10 of fuel in).
I feel bad for the people who actually need to use those things. For the goobers who want to cosplay as a laborer, I could not be happier.
You just explained my MAGA coworker. GMC 3500 super duty diesel and it’s always super clean, and he mainly uses it for going to the office. Any chance he gets to use his newly purchased trailer, he will, even if it would fit in the bed. He’s really lame.
Plenty of folks are actually blue collar but don’t need it. You see a lot of trucks in factory parking lots
It’s inevitable. Obviously this is caused by a political disruption, but oil is a finite resource. People are eventually going to be economically forced to switch to electric, and putting it off for ethnocentrism reasons is just poor policy.
Ha! You fool! You think there’s infinite electrons to put in your dastardly e-buckets???!!!?
Imagine running out of electrons, having to walk miles to the nearest facility to fill up your bucket, then walk all the way back with electrons sloshing out all over the place
Please can you spare an ion?
This is the future liberals want!
Do you think energy for your car just falls from the sky?
One COVID like event could collapse demand in a matter of weeks, like it did last time and gas dropped to 1.85 a gallon where I live. No one was going anywhere. Air quality improved, and really nothing changed. Same self hating dipshit pedo/closet gay/rape ape president.
Almost like he’s setup his whole 1st term to benefit the middle east oil subsidies his family has invested in. Like how the Liv golf foundation was just a way to funnel money to right wing Assholes
That’s not that fair to say.
He’s also set up his second term to enrich himself and his inner circle at our expense, too!
I did and 5 years ago, I purchased an EV as a precaution.
If anyone is counting on the O&G crew to give you a break, I’ve got an orphan well to sell you.
Now you can change to selling by litres
Kinda surprised this hasn’t happened. They wouldn’t need to upgrade the sign, and it would fool a lot of people. At least for a minute.
Just charge per liter.
That would confuse the hell out of Americans :)
Americans are quite familiar with liters: it’s the size Coca Cola comes in.
We could switch to Big Gulp sizing?
You may be into something, but we’re going to lose a lot of folks to accidental ingestion
I’m fine with that. Maybe a little Darwinism will help raise our average iQ
Teehee
https://www.fuel-prices.eu/live/ 3countrys are already past 10 dollars
While you are right, prices in the countries listed were never cheap to begin with because fuels in Europe are highly taxed.
Also, for the same reason, most European cars are leagues above US ones in terms of fuel efficiency. Fuel was always expensive here, so we started making and purchasing cars that were smaller and more efficient in order to save.
In the US, efficiency was never the goal because with cheap fuel prices, nobody cared if their truck was huge and drank several times what an European car drank to make the same distance.
Correct
It’s about time we got slapped in the face with reality
In short, “womp womp”.
If we’re gonna use the European sticker price, the US will also need to include the cost of decades of war in the Middle East.
Now you know why gasoline is sold by the liter in Europe: you can multiply the price another 3.5x.
$10 / gal is quite typical in Europe.
Welcome to the reality of fossil fuel scarcity and the consequences of stupid wars. It’s high time Americans felt what happens when they do stupid shit in a world of dwindling cheap energy resources.
Amusingly it’s a different gallon in the UK, while it’s mostly obsolete it’s the volume of ten pounds of water or about 4.5 litres.
Fuel has been sold by the litre for many years, but it was deemed too expensive to send someone round changing all the road signs to km/h and kilometres. Fair enough in my view but we then made the absolutely daft decision to keep measure fuel efficiency in miles to the gallon, not miles to the litre or even litres / 100 miles. Confusing to Britons who don’t use gallons for anything else, confusing to other Europeans who’ve been entirely metric for generations, and confusing to Americans who use a different gallon.
This will be the tipping point that causes the US to switch to metric.
It isnt, most european countries usually have much lower prices. Even with the current situation the median is arround 8usd/gallon.
You must live where it’s cheaper. I gassed up this morning in Scandinavia and it was over 2.4€ per liter for diesel.
Which is why I, as a Norwegian, have never looked back after switching to a BEV
Well, it’s not really an option for me: I don’t drive nearly enough in a year for the expense to make financial sense, and I don’t want a modern car with all the surveillance equipment built in. I fill up maybe 3 or 4 times a year, but that doesn’t mean I don’t feel the pain when I do 🙂
I just saw €2,56 diesel on my way home today. (For the americans, that’d be around $11,2 per us gallon)
Which is only 8.4€ per galloun.
Where is it $10 per galloun in Europe?
Your math is off though.
€2.40 per Liter is actually €9.08 per gallon, which would be $10.47 per gallon US.
There’s 3.785L to a gallon. 2.40x3.785 is 9.08.
And given how efficient are US trucks in gas consumption, a gallon is… how much in terms of mileage? 5 miles or so? How much does it cost you with those prices just to go to the gas station to fill up?
If I remember right its about 15 MPG for most diesel us trucks. So 15 miles, in real numbers about 24 kms. That is not enough to get me to the nearest city from my house. Like 30 kms to even a tim hortens. That is $10 (usd so more here) just to go to town…
I was exaggerating with the 5 MPG, I didn’t expect it to be so damn low as 15 MPG. That’s… Converting to lt/km that would be around 15lt per 100 kms! Damn… Not sure about average consumptions in Europe, since I drive an electric and never had an ICE but I think the average goes to around 5-6lt per 100km so that’s 3 times as much. Wow…
I have been told that 14 mpgs is really good for a truck (my 1986 c20 does a bit better and its a v8 and carboratred). They are not little guys, and in this part of Canada you have more trucks on the road then just about any other type, most with one person in them and nothing in the back. At least I try to only use my truck when needing to haul yard waste or something to much for my little car, but next door has 3 trucks for 2 people.
7 to 8 Lt per 100km is about normal here (depending on what you drive) in non trucks but for years people here relate success with a big truck.
Well if you are using it for work at least its just a business expense so its easier to justify the cost of something large. For recreational use it would be stupid.
I never got this idea. If you have a business then having waste in that business is going to hurt just as much if it was your personal truck. Most places don’t need a truck and those that do tend to get vans instead (think plumbers). And at least here the biggest ones are just for recreation since they have to pull their 1500sq foot 5th wheel.
Depends what someone is doing. Van or flatbed truck having different use cases.
Yes, but (at least here) there a not that many flatbed uses for the silly small bed large trucks that are all over. Lots of 1 ton and over flatbed trucks doing work, a few welders like those trucks for work. The massive trucks with tiny beds are not really meant to be work anything, they are just large passenger vehicles.
I guess that’s what happens when you have cheap-ass gas prices. Efficiency is just not needed. Well, if anything, this will help people understand how convenient is an EV. I drive 60km a day for my commute and it costs me 2.4€ of electricity, and that’s considering Italy’s electricity prices are not among the lowest in Europe. With such a beast here, I’d go for around 15-16€ a day. Yeah, not happening ever, lol
They are charging us taxes here on evs to make up the difference from gas in some areas.
Oh it was needed here, but activly pushed into clown world numbers of inefficientcies. We have had cars that are very good on gas, now we have cars that say they are good on gas but use 3x what a car from the past would do. Its all marketing over function now and our auto industry is effectively dead due to it, people are (shocker) not buying enough $100,000 trucks that cost $10 in gas to go to the store.
Meanwhile EVs are costing that much per 250 miles or so…
I mean, I live in a country with expensive electricity and I can’t charge at home, so prices are even higher because I use the public charge points. Still, I drive around 400km with less than 20€ that’s simply unachievable with an ICE car, let alone and US ICE car.
I want to get an EV but, until we make more money or one of our cars breaks down, my wife and I are stuck with ICE.
Shouldn’t be too much longer though. My wife drives a Jeep, the emo of cars. It was born to die.
I asked a co-worker about his mileage in his 2023 GMC diesel truck, and he was getting around 20 mpg highway.
I had a Ford F150 with a gasoline engine, and it wa good for maybe 17 mpg highway. The nearest gas station that can sell me gas that isn’t old or full of water (hooray for rural living) is about 8 miles away. I think that is $1.83 to drive it to the gas station, based on the $3.89 price I saw this morning.
Of course I have to be smug and point out that I get around 4.5 miles per kwh now.
My mileage is roughly the same, between 13 to 14 kwh per 100km. I pay 0.35€ per kw so that puts my 100km at around 4.75€. Right now in italy that’s around 2lt of diesel. You won’t get 100km from 2lt of diesel. Ever. And it’s only going to get worse.
I’ve been mocked since I first got an EV almost 5 years ago because I didn’t have a realcar™ so now I am sorry but I’m gonna point how much does it cost me to drive my car every time someone brings out the gas prices at work.
Ive only been driving an EV for two months. The sneers have started to taper off the last two weeks.
My electric at home is about 8¢ per kwh. From my driveway to work and back is almost exactly 62 miles which is close to 100 km. If I assume Im not perfect and I only get 4 miles per kwh, I use 15.5 kwh commuting each day which comes to $1.24. Diesel was 5.99/gallon this morning, some gentle touches on my calculator tell me that $1.24 comes out to .787 liters of diesel fuel. Which as you point out isn’t going to take you far.
Wish I could work from home.
So, I currently have a Chevy Silverado 6.0 liter gas truck. 4 full doors, long bed. I tow a 37ft bumper pull rv with it full time, around 9000lbs loaded. Truck bed is full, maybe another 1200lbs.
I get 7mpg average, and that’s across the country a few times. Unloaded maybe 10mpg. I run up to about 80mph when towing where possible.
My Dodge Ram before it with a 12v Cummins diesel got 14mpg loaded similarly, and about 18-20mpg unloaded (I kept about 500lbs of wood in the bed all the time so it was never really empty).
It’s about $130 to fill up my Chevy right now with current gas prices. We had to do it about six times to move up north this summer for work.
I run up to about 80mph when towing where possible.
Maybe that’s part of the problem? Cars lose a lot of efficiency when you start going over ~60 mph.
I kept about 500lbs of wood in the bed all the time so it was never really empty)
I’m starting to think you don’t care all that much about efficiency
Haha, yeah, it’s almost as bad under 60, but the speed limit is typically 65-75 most places in the US on major highways. When we travel, it is faster to take those roads with the higher speed limits, as we are moving multiple states away at one time. And if you aren’t doing at least the speed limit, it’s dangerous.
As for the wood in the bed of the truck, it was in a Cummins powered truck. They run better, cleaner, and last a bit longer when they are doing work, so a bit of weight can help when you are also giving it the beans between lights. When it wasn’t towing, it still had weight in it.
The speed limit when towing is 55.
Dad was complaining about California having high gas prices and not criticizing the policies that have led to this or the person he voted for causing this
California has higher than average gas prices for a myriad of complications reasons, not the least of which being a largely independent Petro industry.
Well, it’s just starting. We didn’t see it earlier because it was the weekend.
Well, it’s just starting.
Costco is now rationing motor oil. And US crops will have no fertilizer this spring. Good thing you guys are winning the war!
This is because DEMOCRATS!
-Republican Voters UNIRONICALLY!
The difference in gas prices between California and red states is still bigger than the difference between before and after Trump attacked Iran.
California has a history of importing fuel from Asia. Difficulty related to crossing the rockies on trucking. Though I’m surprised there isn’t a rail option. Prices are much higher in Asia.
Its up about the same percentage as Texas.
Texas $3.23 pre war, $5.81 current. California $4.66 pre war, $8.14 current.
Would like to see proof of that.
Someone online posted that the reason things are all expensive, is the Rs are trying to fix all the problems caused by Democrats.
I can’t understand the mental gymnastics needed to come up with, and believe that statement.
Racism brings out the creative side in people, who would’a thunk it?
I think it goes beyond mental gymnastics into mental contortionism.
Tell them to name one problem, and show their work that Dems caused it, Repubs are trying to fix it, and how that caused diesel prices to spike.
Spoiler, they can’t.
“I was told there would not be fact checking”
Wouldnt want an unstable woman in charge of things now, would we?
/s for those with glacial mental faculties
Instead we have a demented queen.
Don’t worry, they’ll fix the machines soon, and they will be able to go above 10. All is well.
Print out 1s to stick next to the sign display
Genius! Promotion! Hire this legend!
(meant in a totally positive way btw, not a being a dick way)
I remember this happening:
Or maybe they will finally use the international system of measurements. Nah, they will fix the machines.
LOOK WHAT YOU MADE US DO! Now we have to buy displays with more digits? That’s going to mean higher gas prices for you. You just don’t learn, do you?
Change from gallons to liters and the sky is the limit!
