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Hey maybe we do that in peace time as well. 👍
Democrats is what happens when Republicans get cozy with Xi Jinping
I really don’t care for that show but Matt Smith is a really great actor.
Damn, is that Haaland?
Lmao wow… doppelganger.
It’s Matt Smith
Did the image get taken down?
Not for me
Funny how a “defensive” war becomes an offensive attack…
…or a counteroffensive? Or is your opinion that if the school yard bully starts punching you, the right thing to do is to lie down and let him punch you some more?
If you punch him harder than he did in the beginning (or he cries louder), suddenly you are the bully.
Ahem…“punching harder” than bombing kindergartens, residential blocks, power plants and hospitals? Chasing street grocers with explosive drones and kidnapping scores of children across the border? There’s only one side that’s on the right side of history here, and that’s pretty damn clear.
“Guysh, there’s no 1 correkt shide, resholving confliktsh ish about finding the middle point sholution ash a compromishe so both shides can be friendsh again!!”
I was gonna try to look mature and not ridicule him, but your way is actually better.
If the broader population is so retarded that their vote can be controlled by clankers on reddit to this extent, then democracy is a fundamentally flawed system.
Those bots were just crawlers for yandex search. If you actually look up the report they weren’t accessing or posting user content, just looking thru web pages.
Source?
Who made that claim?
Putin, and tankies are repeating it.
BBC quoting yandex != BBC statement
Did you really need to use a slur against the disabled to make this point?
I’m surprised Lemmy gave so many down votes, maybe its reaching reddit type users
People are flawed. Education quality is also a systemic problem which has caused many to not reach the potential they might’ve had. But I don’t think using the R-slur will help?
Do you complain about the two I-Slurs, the M-slurs, as well?
I’m just going to say. Retarded has the most right to exist out of all the words that have been malformed from medical diagnoses that mean “has diminished capacity”.
It has an actual function outside of being used as an insult, unlike Moron, Imbecile, and Idiot. And should not be censored or have people in favor of its censorship as we’ve already seen the nanny state corporations are happy to implement.
If you’re wondering why I say this it’s because of words like “Fire Retardent” Or saying something slows things down is to retard it(older usage I know, but it does pop up from time to time in technical documents for things). There are more uses, but admittedly I’m tired today and don’t have it in me to dredge up more examples.
And yeah sorry that you personally are getting the brunt of this rant, but I’m so tired of censorship on words in general, but especially on words that have uses outside of the insult. I also hate how inconsistent people are with it.
It’s a fucking word. It’s a fucking word that means the same as stupid, idiot, moron, imbecile, it just hits harder for most. It’s not a real slur, imo. And if you’re using it as a slur, that’s on you and you’re a fucking moron for it.
Our engines had engine retarders on them. My mechanic, Mike, said he was a retarded retarder. Self burns are the best. As a slur towards others, no bueno.
It no longer means the same though. Language changes, and the R word is used as an insult equating somebody to somebody with down syndrome (as an example) while Moron and Idiot don’t have a direct correlation to a group.
While all are still uses medically, there is context needed. Like the test might say your child is in the idiot, moron range. But a doctor will now say they have mental retardation or reduced mental capacity. They dont say hey parents your kid is ‘Re----"
People still using the R word (as non time related uses) are just behind the times, like when my mom called black people colored…at some point somebody has to confront you and say “hey, this is not how we do things now”
Moron and Idiot were the original correlations. People adopted those words as insults and the medical community adopted new words, and then those words got used as insults, and then the medical community adopted new words…
And on and on and on. Moron equates you to someone with diminished capacity like someone with down syndrome, to use your example. So does Idiot, and Imbecile. As again they were medical terms turned into insults lol.
So like by all means hate Retarded as a word, but have some consistency.
The terms moron and idiot are still used on the test reports, but nobody nowawdays associates calling somebody an idiot/moron with a slur against the mentally challenged, but the R word is.
Like under your argument we can still call people gay as a slur because it used to mean happy.
We stopped calling people gay or R word in the early 90s dude.
retard is falling out of fashion, but it is being replaced with “intellectually challenged” and similar phrases because people will never not want a word to describe those that aren’t smart enough to fit in.
We stopped calling people gay or R word in the early 90s dude.
Wtf? Were you not around then? No we absolutely didn’t.
It wasn’t until the early oughts that it started to fall out of fashion and it wasn’t until the teens that it was considered slur territory.
We did where I lived. Was around the George Michael and other stars coming out, and people waking up about slurs, N word also was dropping out.
Lmao, sorry, sorry. I just wasn’t expecting to get told, wrongly, about history I lived through. Retard didn’t fall out of favor until the 2010’s, and gay as an insult only started wearing off towards the late 00’s early 10’s which is why you can still see it in media from the time.
Not sure how old you are, but I found it very funny.
Wow I didn’t see that you wrote an almost identical comment first, lol.
Highschool mid 80s. Maybe I just lived in a more progressive zone, where language changed faster, or people realised it was not couth
Not sure what your context and life story is. From my perspective it seemed like an aggressive and vitriolic choice where “stupid” would have sufficed. As an insult it seems to have a lot more cultural weight behind it which is why I called it a slur. Words are all just sounds, it’s the societal landscape which decides what they actually mean. My friends were telling me they’ve been hearing that word used a lot more frequently as an insult than they remembered from a couple of years ago, so I was particularly primed to make a comment on it.
I am not in favour of censorship of people’s words at the state level. Language is a community project which should be dealt with at a community level. Which is why I said something. I think we should try to be a bit kind in how we speak.
Now that I think about it I don’t think calling people stupid is helpful either. I feel like a lot of “stupidity”, especially as relates to politics, is about low quality schooling and a social media landscape which is designed to implant and further certain beliefs.
Yeah anyway, I guess, mostly I’m tired of watching the world crumble around me and would like to start building things so this mostly ended up as a pile of my random thoughts. I hope you’re having a less tiring day today 😊
I do understand the perspective, I just feel like going after “Retarded” as a slur is dumb on multiple levels. One, it diminishes actual slurs and what they represent. Two(which I’ve already covered) has actual uses outside of just being an insult. Three the devolution of our language due to censorship is an issue as a whole and this bothers me(Grape, PDFile come to mind as well). Four, its inconsistent with the other words of the same tier and meaning. And Fifth, it only became designated as a “slur” relatively recently which wraps back around to point one.
And last but not a viable point, there just isn’t a word that is as succinct as “retarded” for something so incredulously dumb that it defies belief, in my opinion.
With that all said, I hope you understand I wasn’t coming after you personally, you just triggered something that’s been bothering me. Again, sorry you got the brunt of that rant. Even that last part wasn’t for you. Please have a lovely day.
Yeah makes sense dude. I hope you have a lovely day!
Democracy, or American presidential democracy?
It all comes down to the fact that the human psyche evolved from selfish monkeys, the kind that killed all the other types of monkeys that were slightly different from them. It’s almost like humanity has been trying to solve this problem since the dawn of time.
No, we evolved to be hyper social apes which rely on cooperation in order to survive. God you people are so confidently ignorant, lol.
Dude. Modern humans aee made up of like six different species. We don’t kill The Other. We fuck 'em like crazy
Except this absolutely isn’t even close to true. We interbred with other species prolifically to the point every person on Earth has Neanderthal DNA and Denisovian DNA, among other genetic material we don’t know the specific origins.
That kind of misanthropic view that homo spaiens just “killed all the other types of monkeys” is toxic.
counterpoint, none of them exist anymore, it’s all humans.
Yes, because of other evolutionary pressures. That doesn’t mean humans wiped them out, only that our species’ lineage survived when theirs didn’t.
Fucking kills me every time lol.
Slurs fucking suuuck!
I’m a cyborg, I can say it.
Yeah but why would you want to? Gross.
Democracy is a bad system. However it is the best we have right now.
Democracy is the best we have, but what we’re using today isn’t actually democracy, it is a popularity contest.
Democracy is inefficient at central control and efficient at making sure no single faction stays in power for long. Dynastic autocracy had its chance for several thousand years and never advanced very far past people shitting themselves to death, what with ruling noble bloodlines hamstringing themselves with nepotism and inbreeding. At least with democracy people fixing things and producing food can defend their harvests and reïnvest their profits into free time to improve their tooling instead of getting sent off to kill one another wars no one wants except for idiot lords.
Well the big plan is to replace it with Ai and world government later, so… Won’t be an issue. Who needs democracy when you have AI making the “best” decisions. :)
Its a good thing that massive corporations are being allowed to teach their AI in an almost completely unregulated manner then.
It is, but the other systems are at least as flawed and much worse when things go really bad.
Honestly the older I get the more cynical I get.
Retarded education system = retarded people = failing democracy
Slurs fucking suuuck!
I’m being called fascist as a slur 20x a day, and noone ever rects.
Dog if you’re getting called a fascist 20x a day you’re probably a fascist.
Or maybe “fascist” is being used as a slur with no real meaning behind it?
That isnt what a slur is.
Fascists are worth condemning.
Disabled people are not.
Everyones fascist, everyones retard, nobody cares about fragile snowflakes being triggered. Go back to lemmy.ml
Do not break Lemmy.World ToS by using ablist slurs.
Slurs are fucking gross bud. Stop it.
Any system ruled by humans is a flawed system. Which is why democracy must be ruled bottom-up and not top-down. And have more than one representative, on any level. And last but not least, good general education (which is why fascist always start there).
I called this years ago (ruled by humans being flawed, not bottom-up democracy which IMO is a half-measure). AI is the only solution that can be better long-term than democracy. I do not, however, mean we should let Claude run society. We’d need actual AGI that doesn’t just get trained, but learns properly on its own without cheap tricks like writing memory files. It also shouldn’t be influenced by any individuals or organizations.
It’s really a pipe dream at this stage.
AI is great till It goes sky net
Forgot the /s mate.
LOL
Right and wrong are just words. What matters is what you do.
(I just watched that episode of Futurama where Bender was God and it’s a perfectly fitting analogy here, I think).
Firstly, your proposal requires a perfect and noble system. There’s two major problems right there…one in developing a perfect system, and the other in defining what “noble” actually means.
What’s good for one may be bad for another. In often cases it is, especially under a capitalist system where we are made to compete directly with each other.
An example…my box of Kellog’s Raisin Bran says, on the back, “Cereal makes eating well easy”. I misread it at first and thought it said “cereal makers eating well”, and pondered about that for a moment.
As a consumer, we don’t want cereal makers eating well. I mean, we say we do, but our actions prove otherwise. Consumers are disincentivised from the cereal makers (as in the grain farmers) eating well, because that means a more expensive product, which is money out of their pockets, which now means they are eating less well than they would have. We are subconsciously at war with our peers.
Ew, lol.
This is the elite wet dream, yes. Replace all pesky humans with machines, because “democracy doesn’t work”… Except it does work, if you have a unbiased media and an educated population.
Humans ruled by some AI that will never be influenced by humans will never happen. What if the Ai suggests things that are bad for the rulers of society? There will always be corrupt humans directing our systems, to stay rich and powerful.
Which means we need less technology, less machines, less surveillance, to have a society where humans can feel free and happy. Unlimited technology leads to dystopia for humans.
This is the elite wet dream, yes. Replace all pesky humans with machines
I’m proposing that the elite be replaced with machines. I’m not saying it’s easy, nor necessarily even possible, certainly not at the current level of technological and societal development.
Except it does work, if you have a unbiased media
There’s no such thing as truly unbiased media, it’s nearly impossible. Or are you proposing banning all media that isn’t state media? Private media will always have an agenda. Often so will state media though, and that can easily become even more dangerous.
and an educated population.
Doesn’t work. Or are you going to force everyone into poli sci majors? Majority of Europe has free higher education and in most countries the far right has been on the rise again. Even plenty of educated people vote for those parties. Hell, I can tell you that many of the people IN those parties, at least in my country, have degrees one might consider relevant to good governance (history, law, etc) and yet they spew hate.
What if the Ai suggests things that are bad for the rulers of society?
The idea is that the AI has to be the ruler of society and nobody else can have power over it. It also involves developing perfect AI first. I did say it was a pipe dream, didn’t I?
There will always be corrupt humans directing our systems, to stay rich and powerful.
It goes without saying that the existence of private property is part of that plan. The AI would decide who needs how much resources. The book you’ve named yourself after is kind of relevant, but the inner party still consisted of humans and they had ulterior motives. As O’brian himself said, the party’s ultimate goal was nothing other than just the control itself. The AI would have to have an ultimate goal of maximum human happiness, freedom and longevity, as much as possible without giving people freedom to have power over others.
Which means we need less technology, less machines, less surveillance, to have a society where humans can feel free and happy.
Doesn’t work either, unless society is fewer than 100 people or so. Above that we start developing these nasty things called hierarchies. Rulers and such. No human rulers can be allowed to exist if we want a truly just society. Impartial, completely neutral humans don’t exist. Democracy doesn’t work because voters can be swayed and BDFLs are just that, FL. They die and the next one might not be very B, but will be just as D if not moreso.
Hopefully you never achieve an ounce of power, lol.
And Trumps cabinet just met with Russian Envoy today in the whitehouse.
hah, funny political meme. Lemmy just pop on into the comments real quick.
Yep. About what i expected.I love all Lemmy-goers, but I’m amused by how .ml users here don’t seem to get the joke…
I mean, I get the joke, but the dems won very explicitly because voters were reacting to poor economic conditions brought on by the Iran War
You forget about ICE, my friend. That was one of the main reasons Texas went blue. The Rio Grande valley flipped from red to blue just because that
Oh, definitely, that’s a big factor as well
I saw some huffing some serious copium saying “those DCs didn’t have any bots! They were just indexers for a search engine!”… right, like you knew and trusted what was running on every single server in those DCs.
Eh. I actually think there didn’t seem to be many bots at those locations. But they have bots somewhere, and the joke is funny anyway.
TBF they did have Alisa AI training and inference machines in those data centers, but I doubt they saw any significant use in propaganda campains.
Same for .world tbh, though not as bad.
My other account that I created when Sopuli was down and that has stayed logged in on another device I use, was banned from pretty much all .world communities for criticizing zionists and pretty much all .ml communities for criticizing the CCP lol
Remember, every religion has a zionist faction. they fight each other but when threatened by outsiders they all work together. The Zionist Jews in WW2 actively aided the Nazis in order to push the surviving Jews to their side, while the Nazis agreed because it made it easier to remove Jews from their vile Aryan empire.
In ancient history, the Crusades were just Zionist Christians (with Zionist Jews as allies) against Zionist Muslims. Which was stupid because they were all of the same faith… just different factions. Christians are just Jews that accept “Jesus” as a prophet and divine entity (aka a second god while gaslighting the world and themselves into saying they only worship one god). Jews stick to worshipping one god. Muslims are basically just Christians that accept 2 prophets (Jesus and Mohammed) while saying that neither are divine. which pisses off Christians who worship their not-god-god Jesus while also pissing off the Jews who refuse to recognize either of the prophets.
In Modern days: Christianity has a bunch of Zionist factions. – They fund MAGA and rose to power twice in the last 100 years. Once in Nazi Germany through Hitler (despite him being of Jewish descent) and the other in the USA during Trump’s presidency with his avid support.
Muslims have their well known terrorist groups. – which were all funded by or founded by the CIA to fight Russia. that really bit USA in the ass when the Muslim groups realized that the CIA (and the USA) were never going to honor their promises. que 9/11.
Jews have the Israeli Genocide Force. which they claim defends them from Palestine. Before and during WW2 the Palestinians welcomed the Jews (who were fleeing persecution) with open arms. then were rewarded with Jews being given Palestinian land and an 80 year long genocide by the very people they helped protect from Nazi enforced genocide. talk about the “scorpion stinging the frog” story in real life. Jews of Israel being the Scorpion in the story and Palestinians being the Frog in the Story.
Buddhists and Hindus have their own conflicts but they tend to just fight each other away from the western world with only a few stories making their way onto USA news. and most of those are when they get into conflicts with Muslim Zionists.
The history of humanity is really just the story of unlikely progress in the face of a vast series of fascistic cults
Enjoy the downvotes
Fucking lol
Forgot what instance they’re on lol. c/lost_lemmings
Enlighten me, what instance do you think I think I am in o master of ironies
.ml is an echo chamber cultivated by handful of mods who control all the popupar subs. Its just like reddit
They’re all feeling a bit disconnected.
They probably had mor important things to do like catching the bus…
I can’t see them because My instance blocked them
You don’t see them because your instance blocked them. I don’t see them because I blocked that instance. We are not the same. <adjusts tie>
When I despair about how Ukraine can ever rebuild after this war, my mind keeps circling back to their expertise at blowing up data centres. This could prove a highly marketable skill!
There’s no special skill to it. High explosives and the means to put them on target.
Ah, but the will to do it, now that is something which is in short supply.
Fr this could be a very important skill in the upcoming decades.
A bit sad that the most profitable expertise we’ve gained is blowing shit up and making things that blow shit up. But if it keeps us alive, I’ll take that.
I bet the EU will help rebuild big time.
Or so I hope, Slava Ukraine!! ✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼
Brings me great joy seeing Ukainians on the threadiverse despite the uh, heavy opposition presence here
Still better than Reddit or Twitter here. Lots of support as well!
Some of us allive, anyway.
my mind keeps circling back to their expertise at blowing up data centres
You’d be better off consulting the Houthis. They don’t need tens of billions in foreign aid to pull it off
Except for all the weapons and funding Iran has given them over the years…
Do you think that that support is equal to the entirety of NATO supporting a full scale war for more than half a decade?
Ooh the kremlin line that russia is fighting, The Entirety Of NATO!
Haven’t seen that bullshit for some time lol.
Hey, how about you go fuck yourself.
Did a houthi fuck your wife or something? Let’s unpack this anger.
Hegemony loves Saudis.
We need a per fighter number comparing international aid to Ukraine against Iranian aid to the Houthis. I’d actually be surprised if the numbers were far off based on the size of the AFU and the difficulty the Houthis must have in getting arms after Russia turned off the tap to the black market.
Did they even say thank you?
Oh so liberals are doing they stole the election!! shit now, i see, voter fraud, good, very good
Maybe focus on the breathing, big guy
The fuck are you talking about
Bots don’t know what they’re talking about, they just try to spread doubt and rage
It’s funny and all, but no credible source reported lowered Russian bot activity after those bombings. It’s one of those things that makes sense, but didn’t happen.
It was visible in my spam folder. Usually I get 1-2 russian spam emails a day, but from Oct 12th to October 17th they just stopped (the bombing was on the 11th)
Funny that it’s not just me, my oldest e-mail Account also gets 3-4 identical spam mails a day and they also completely stopped for a while after the 11th. My mails are in German though.
The data center hit only had crawlers. There is no noticeable lowering of Russian bot activity.
There is no way to know that
There are organisations trying to monitor not activity and none of them saw a noticeable decline.
That does not mean the datacenter hit was only hosting crawlers
People just want to believe whatever they want. You are right all this points directly to Russian bot activity clearly going down, this guy got less Russian spam because Ukraine killed a data center. Slava Ukraini.
Just goes to show you that when an administration screws up this big that the other side can win at like 53 to like 44 in certain places.
