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The U.S. war with Iran has raised fossil fuel prices so much that the resulting drop in oil demand has put the world on track to see a rare dip in carbon emissions from these sources in 2026.
Between 2019 and 2025, carbon dioxide emissions from fossil fuels grew by about 0.8 percent annually, according to a new study published in Nature Climate Change. But 2026 is set to buck that trend: high oil prices, as well as the continued rise of green technology—solar power, wind and electric cars—will cause a “short-term” 0.4 percent drop, according to the study.
“The high petrol prices following the war in Iran are reducing oil use and keeping emissions low,” says the study’s lead author Corinne Le Quéré, a professor of climate change science at the University of East Anglia in England. “But that’s not the whole story: The expansion of renewable energy has progressed a lot in recent years, led by China. And [along with electric vehicles], this is offsetting two thirds of the growing demand for energy.”
With all sources of carbon considered, including deforestation, total global CO2 emissions are set to continue increasing.
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Thank you, Iran.
Don’t tease me. I once told my very conservative friend that I wanted to see the gas prices skyrocket, and he was dumbfounded at why I would want that. And my answer was exactly this, its the only reason people will stop using fossil fuels.
We’ve proven that people don’t care about climate change unless it affects them directly.
This is why no US president has fucked with Iran in a meaningful way, until Dementia Don thought he could Captain America this shit and threw the world into chaos.
It is a sad truth that, at least in the US, the majority only ever cares about war when they’re personally affected. It’s why we have an “volunteer” military, though truly, our military is loaded with poor people who had no real option in their home communities other than joining up, and also why we’re never having another draft.
Even so, it’s still glad to see the majority becoming more anti-war even if only out of self-interest.
But I was told it was Bidens Fault!
/s
And yeah it’s scary how selfish people are. I always think that people are like myself and look out for others, but no they’d fuck you over for a Klondike bar.
While the title is technically true, it’s incredibly misleading to people who don’t read carefully, which unfortunately makes up a huge part of the internet
We’re gonna get a bunch of dumbasses thinking that the Iran war is somehow good for the environment
Clearly, we need to make it into WW3 for even more environmental friendliness
Most don’t like burning resource and money at same time, kinda make sense?
With all sources of carbon considered, including deforestation, total global CO2 emissions are set to continue increasing.
Well that’s not good.
The Gang Solves Climate Change
Between covid and the Iran war, Trump is the most environmentally friendly president ever!
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I said 20 years ago that we should let gas prices rise. My target at the time was $10/gallon. If we believe capitalism works then let it work for us. You add another digit to the cost of regular unleaded and you watch how fast people adopt EVs.
Climate Change wasn’t the focus of my angst back then but probably should have been.
EVs are only marginally better. Public transit is the answer.
Public transit won’t work in a lot of america. And a lot of america cannot afford an ev.
I even weigh the costs of an ev , but its just too much to offset. Not to mention unrepairable and loaded with spyware.
That’s dumb, all cars have the tech issues these days
Yes but I drive old cars. The slate is the only ev I’d remotely consider.
What’s your source for that claim regarding public transit? Especially considering every single town in America once had rail connections and street cars?
The america that isnt new York and LA. The whole middle part there.
Public transit will not work for rural areas or cities under a million. Its fine, we dont need it. Although I’d be all for banning cars downtown.
Why not? Public transit often reaches villages of a few hundred people in Germany despite being pretty patchy compared to the past. I live in a rural part of Germany and I don’t need a car at all. I have to acknowledge that having one does give you an edge in many cases, but it’s not a necessity. I’ve never had a car.
The US are a lot more spacious, yes, so the infrastructure would cost more to build and maintain, but that’s more of a “Do we want to spend money on that?” problem, rather than a “Would it work?” problem. Get some autonomous busses maybe and you don’t even need drivers.
What am I missing?
Public transit will not work for rural areas or cities under a million.
Rural areas in America are net drain on society. And the term rural is kind of pushing it especially in the east. It’s more of a sprawling strip mall/car dealership hellscape that’s occasionally interrupted by churches, trees and farms It’s a shit life and so many people are trapped here because of cost of living. We should be getting people out of those areas. Then it would be a moot point.
Yep suburban hell is a thing. However some of us prefer the peace of rural living. I don’t prefer nearby neighbors and they dont prefer me as I am loud. I cannot be crammed in like sardines like so many lemmings prefer to be, I just can’t understand wanting that.
just like reduce -> reuse -> recycle which is ordered in what you should do first.
Same can be said for transit, reduce the need for transit first (work from home), then use public transit, then use non-fossil fuel vehicles.
Also like recycling, EVs are a way for corporations to push the responsibility for environmentalism onto the individual.
Yes, this is good news. People really need to understand that we have to stop using oil cars NOW. How high do we need to increase the price to get people to understand this?
So… Trump did something that had a positive effect? Not that it’s a net positive, I mean, he started an illegal war and bombed schools with kids inside. And talking about children, don’t forget he raped kids.
On a global scale, Trump has done a lot of good by directly undermining the power of the US Empire and accelerating its decline.
Accelerationism Works, just so long as you don’t count all the people viciously slaughtered in the transitional period
Thankfully, most accelerationists are privileged white people living in very blue states and cities, so that’s very easy to ignore.
most accelerationists are privileged white people
Most people you interact with online are privileged.
I think you’d be surprised to see how many people are perfectly fine with burning Western Imperialism down once you get outside your bubble
Trump almost single handedly destroying American hard and soft power is unironically one of the greatest achievements of the human race up to this point. He is accidentally a great man of history, lol.
The Louis XVI of America
He is accidentally a great man of history
I wouldn’t go as far as that honestly. He’s still a child raping corrupt piece of shit.
It’s like saying Hitler was a good guy because of all the autobahns.
Trump is not a good man, but he is undeniably a Great Man, in the sense of the Great Man theory of history, which claims that the path of history is set by a handful of specific personalities pushing the world in directions via their will.
Put it like this: the Napoleonic era was named after Napoleon because so much of the history requires reading Napoleon’s bio. Eventually, these last 12+ years will be called the Trump era.
Unfortunately I agree with you but let’s not forget that Reagan walked so Trump could waddle. Without Reagan we wouldn’t have Trump or a recognizable Republican party. I don’t know what we would have but he started the trend of deregulation, tough on crime, and antimmigrationism that is the root of Republican beliefs today. Trump is just really good at taking credit for other people’s work.
The autobahns arent doing illegal wars, genocides, and accelerating climate change lol.
what. They literally were connected to ALL of your points?? They were built to facilitate large scale military logistics, moving troops AND victims of the largest genocide in Europe??
Actually they used trains, lol.
But only for the final transport. Almost everyone was first picked up by trucks, transported to smaller processing and/or work camps, before then being moved either by trucks to different work sites or train towards the Vernichtungslager.
They also used the trains for industrial and military transport lol
They even had an artillary cannon mounted on the rails, though it was pretty useless.
Trump has done quite a few positive things
- he triggered increased growth in renewable energy
- he encouraged Europe to stand stronger together
- he encouraged Canada to pursue stronger trading partnership with Europe
- he’s building unity in the United Nations
- he’s helping China emerge as a “good guy”
- he’s helping legacy auto manufacturers transition the industry to new technology companies without a fight
- he’s helped the worlds richest man come out as his true self, instead of merely a quirky businessman with the vision to invest in future technologies that disrupt stagnant established industries
- and lately Trump is the one who has done the most by far to build political activity, shared view on the direction of the country and renews enthusiasm across the Democrat party
Why is this downvoted? Trump’s policies ironically helped other countries but not the country he leads!
he’s helping China emerge as a “good guy”
More like enabling China to do whatever the fuck they want, which isn’t good. China is far from a good guy.
he triggered increased growth in renewable energy
Did he? He’s hard against it. There’s only a growth because AI data centers take any form of energy. But the growth of fossil fuel energy sources is growing even more.
he encouraged Europe to stand stronger together
He’s also trying to divide Europe, which is far more successful than I wish it was.
China is far from a good guy.
How many countries has China bombed in the last two years?
The county of China has committed the unforgivable act of Being Prosperous Without Being White.
Westerners will never forgive them.
India also increasingly on the Western shit list, as evidenced by folks like Bo French losing their shit over kids cheering a football game.
How many Oeigoers are in concentration camps? How many people are being secretly executed in mobile execution vans? All while they are preparing to invade Taiwan, make predatory deals with African countries and commit murder abroad to anyone considered enemy of the state. Oh and did you know they are building the strongest most modern military right now? They used to be defensive, but are now fully focusing on offensive. I wonder why…
There are other ways than bombing countries to be fucking evil.
OeigoersUyghurs
I knew it was bad spelling, I even googled it. But instead of the English spelling, I ended up with the Dutch spelling instead. Thanks for correcting me :)
How many Oeigoers are in concentration camps?
Guy in a country overflowing with concentration camps, currently carpet bombing multiple countries for being too Muslim
“Okay, but consider Xinjiang!”
Incidentally…
Fascist westerners absolutely seeth when they see this picture.
All while they are preparing to invade Taiwan
Americans have accused China of planning to invade Taiwan longer than they’ve been accusing Iran of plotting to bomb Israel.
More efforts have been made by Taiwanese nationalists to retake the mainland than the reverse.
Guy in a country overflowing with concentration camps, currently carpet bombing multiple countries for being too Muslim
I didn’t know The Netherlands has concentration camps. What country are we bombing for being too Muslim?
More efforts have been made by Taiwanese nationalists to retake the mainland than the reverse.
Oh hi Chinese government worker!
FFS… Either you’re insanely ignorant and dumb, or you’re getting paid for spreading propaganda.
So… It’s a win ?
I don’t think the game is over.
Gonna be real, you’d have practically give electric cars away if we want people to not use gas. My disabled ass cannot afford nor have the energy and motivation to go buy a used one,let alone a new one. it is out of reach.
And even then gas huffers will literally kill if you try to force them to use electric. They need to hear the gas exploding to offset thier small parts, and how else are you going to impress your redneck buddies down by the creek.
And don’t even get me started on the fucks who actually nut when a engine roars, they will do… Terrible things to keep thier fetish alive.
Not sure where the sarcasm ends here so
- prices are getting closer every year, and that’s what the incentives were meant to counter. If not for protectionism, US would have comparably priced EVs like a lot of the rest of the world does
- operating cost of EVs is much lower, especially now
- as charging infrastructure is built out, more and more people will realize a new cheaper and easier option. No need to force anyone
- I still have my car in “Halloween mode” where it roars. It actually startled me a few times, even though I should be expecting it
Funny anecdote …… last night I drove to a shopping center to replace a headlight bulb on my kids car while they’re at work. Picture me parking next to an older Subaru, popping the hood, bending low over the engine compartment, contorting my upper body to maneuver my hands to the back of the headlights when suddenly behind me “ROAR”. Fucking a, even a little jump hurts when you’re tangled into an engine
I bring in less than 12k a year, find me an electric car I can afford on top of rent and food. :D I did not ask about charging infrastructure, it’s there, no argument. Motor heads -NOT I make fun of fake engine noises.
Public transport is the only solution. Car centric infrastructure is a death sentence.
Honestly, when the public transport will give me back the 2 more hours (in the best case) I need to commute it will begin to be an alterative, until that moment I don’t think is a real solution.
I’m guessing you’re thinking of the current structure of your cities public transport. Picture NYC infrastructure or japan’s or even china’s.
Nobody needs a car there because it makes more sense to just use public transport.
I am thinking more about the problem for someone like me that do not live in the city, but not that afar either, to reach the working place that is not in the city, but still not that afar either.
The problem with public transportation is never when you live (and work) in the city, it is always when you live outside the city and need to go in the city (or the contrary) or in some other small neighbouring towns.
I had no problems to go to the big city with a train, in fact it is often far faster then using the car, the problem begins when I need to go to a neighbouring towns.
You cannot realistically build a public transportation system that connect every small town/village with every other small town/village with a timetable comparable to the one used in the public transportation of the city .
And then I would still have the problem of moving inside the destination town: often they are not big enough to justify having a public transportation system.
No argument from me, you’ll just have to kill oil ceos and thier lobbies to do it.
I was almost excited, but then you (rightfully) crushed it, OP.
With all sources of carbon considered, including deforestation, total global CO2 emissions are set to continue increasing.
Sigh. Still on track for my children starving to death in the famines to come.
Unless you’re over 70, I’ve got some bad news about you starving to death too.
Every single negative impact of climate change has happened and is happening “faster than expected” according to the world’s leading climate scientists.
Next year could be a multi breadbasket failure, leading to hundreds of millions of deaths.
Don’t worry, it won’t only be your children, it will also be you!
Don’t worry, the poisoned water and food will probably get them first.
Yeah. Sorry.
Trump’s going to claim credit for this
Iran is environmentalist confirmed?
