“tHe PrOgReSs hAs bEeN iNsAnE”
A skilled dev don’t need AI to create and store a game…in an QR code.
Slopcoders are so egotistical main characters, believing they’ll beat anyone with more coding experience.
I wasn’t impressed even before that. 14-year-olds can code, some of them. And some are skilled in some ways. But there’s almost zero chance they have the situational awareness to lead serious projects. Just doesn’t happen.
So they need to be part of a team, and if they are, OK that’s cool, but don’t forget to be a kid, too.
And they are stepping on Nintendo’s toes, AND doing interviews, AND 100% have good enough opsec to not be tied to the project, AND receiving donations.
But they are a rich kid apparently so just gonna be some fines to pay…
If I did this I would go to jail for 70 years or some shit
See this is where I’m like. For $9,000, you could have just purchased a Switch and a legit copy of OOT. Heck, you could get a vintage N64, old cart, and a CRT TV for less. What is this kid doon??
Becoming famous and feeling cool for the first time in his short life. Whether that will br a fun memory in retrospect is yet to be seen.
You can grab it off minerva and play it in an emulator pretty easily, which is the second most authentic way to experience it in my opinion. The first is of course on original hardware. I’m not sure what the point of a slop PC port is and at this point I’m too afraid to ask.
The port is of the new remake, which can be run on an emulator, but is more demanding than a native port.
Reverse engineering and porting software to other platforms is legal and should be encouraged, not shat upon. It only takes one person to port it and then everyone can reap the benefits.
Why should we make and buy more hardware that will end up in ewaste when we have perfectly good hardware already? Why can’t we install whatever software we like on devices that we supposedly own?
You talk about ewaste but ignore the impact AI has
They aren’t shitting on them for reverse engineering and porting software
They are shitting on them for spending 9k on AI to half-ass it for them.
Spending people’s money for clout.
Showing the capitalists that we can and will use their tools against them.
I mean idk this is like the perfect use of AI slop, what adult professional dev is gonna dedicate his life to emulating game systems? Let this kid with claude have at it.
I’m a bit confused. Is this the OOT port Ship of Harkinian or a different port?
Pay to Develop , it’s not new thing, there are personal trainer and private doctor/physician too.
Comparing Claude to a personal trainer is not an adequate comparison.
The personal trainer doesn’t train for you, he or she teaches you movement patterns and educates you on proper form and maybe also on healthy dietary choices.
It’s more like if he was paying for a personal coding tutor, which Claude or ChatGPT can theoretically be as well, but that doesn’t seem to be what he did here.
I don’t code anymore (broke my brain in the 1990s) but I’m fascinated by the multi-pass magical process that serious AI coders go through to turn vibecode into something robust, secure and functional.
Maybe when the industry isn’t run on petrol turbines, and depleting the water tables, I’ll give it a go.
If you think calling AI users “creators” is bad, then let me remind you it was normalized the moment people called
Steve Jobs the creator of Apple computers and the iPhoneEdison the creator of anything at all. Edison was the first archetypical techbro, and Steve Jobs was the first modern techbro.In my opinion, there is an important difference, though: The software that people “create” with Claude, ChatGPT or whatever could have been created by most competent and skilled software developers, i.e. nothing ground breaking or world changing has been created by people using Claude or ChatGPT (at least not as far as I know, please correct me if I am wrong). However, this is different with regards to the iPhone or the light bulb, they were truly historic and world changing “creations”.
As far as I am concerned, it doesn’t really matter if you were the true “creator” of a certain product, software or invention, as long as you manage to sort of market the product and convince other people of the value of said product or invention (and as long it holds actual value to people).
That’s a slippery slope, not crediting the actual creators of a new thing. Making something famous and getting recognition for doing that is fine if that’s what happened, but taking credit for the creation of something is a shitty thing to do if you took it from someone else. Its dishonest and should be discouraged
This has been going on for centuries. Scientists’ staff doing all the work of proving an idea. Same for physicians. Artists, also…a ton of people in their employ doing the actual art executing the artists’ ideas. The big name gets the glory while those under them hope to get noticed enough to go out on their own and repeat the process. These days it still happens, plus we have managers and CEO’s taking credit for the employees doing all the work of making something happen. Hell, I bet the guy that had the idea to build the Pyramids had hundreds of what constituted engineers and artisans of the day build the things and said “Look what I made!”
Very similar situation in science as well, most big name professors are actually managers of 20+ people groups and as far as I have seen, most ideas come from lower down the totem pole. Not saying that they don’t contribute, it takes a lot of time and effort to get from a new idea/discovery to fully developed concept but nontheless the payoff is much more in the professors favor.
Speaking of, if you ever get to the Valley of the Kings in Egypt, make sure to check out the tombs of the craftsmen who actually built the tombs for the kings. They’re just outside the Valley of the Kings, arguably just as beautiful, and mostly ignored by tourists.
The “developer” is claude the 14 yr old is just the stooge that paid 9000 dollars for it.
This reminds me of every other child developer prodigy nonsense story. “I dream in code” or some stupidity.
I often dream about code, but dreaming in code sounds unrealistic.
I dunno, I was completing plenty of functional software projects by the time I was 14. The one I’m most proud of is my rendition of Tetris which ran in real time (i.e. independent of CPU clocks) in 80x40 text mode in DOS. It was comprised mostly of the ASCII bricks and extended characters and included a repeating interlocking background pattern of Tetrads made out of ASCII pipes that took me forever to figure out how to jigsaw together cleanly.
I think those days are pretty far gone, though. Not to be all get-off-my-lawn about it, but I think the kinds of things we were doing back then were a far cry from and significantly more authentic than what most of the current crop of script kiddies are up to.
significantly more authentic than what most of the current crop of script kiddies are up to.
I think it’s just that skript kiddiez theze daze can do somewhat interesting (at least to their peers) stuff, whereas you had to bust ass a whole lot harder just to get Hello World to animate back in the day.
Doesn’t make what they do any less impressive just because it’s easier to do flashier things - the interesting part is always the originality of it, if you’re “in the scene” is this kiddie doing something of their own, or is it just a copy-pasta? Same applies to music, visual arts, literature, etc.
I was always turned off by the “ripoff games” - but, then, back when the Palm Pilot was hot, the top earners in PalmGear H.Q. were all “ripoff games” - so, I guess I just wasn’t serious about being popular / making bank.
“Even a 14 year old shit coder can use AI to port a console game to PC”
Fuckai: Doesn’t look like anything to me
Some random 14yo kid has 9k dollars to spend on Claude code. Fuck my life.
Subscriptions cover vastly more than an equivalent amount of API cost. $9k is probably just a few months of the $200/mo sub
I didn’t have $200/mo at that age either
By 15 I could earn $200/mo after school saying “you want fries with that?” into a microphone and running a cash register for a drive-thru, and that was at $3.35/hr minimum wage. In Florida minimum wage is $15/hr now, so $200/month is less than 2 4 hour after school or one 8 hour weekend shift a week, even after taxes.
The $9K figure, as I read the summary, is total spent by all contributors to the project, and if they manage to develop a full commercial quality port for under $100K they’ve beat what the industry players would spend on developer time for the same job by a wide margin.
By develop I think you mean stole someone else’s project for under $100k. They haven’t developed anything.
Musicians learn in large part by playing “covers,” programming is really no different.
They are obviously talking about the AI usage, not the programming.
Okay
I hate to be “that guy” but who/what do you think is writing Windows updates
A 14 year old kid with 9000 dollars and a Claude subscription?
Pretty much.
Visually the gag of the 13 layers of leadership at microsoft all watching over one kid vibe coding all their services is pretty funny.
I mean I assume that’s what’s happening and why it all fucking sucks.
They pushed an update yesterday that makes applications hang when users try to print. If your machine shits the bed whenever you try to print, remove KB5132061 and reboot.
This has to be the worst timeline. If it isn’t I don’t want to see what is.
Not regretting deleting windows earlier in the year…
So the developer is Anthropic 🤷♂️ If I order some specific pizza, am I the cheff who made it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_selfie_copyright_dispute
“The copyright belongs to no one” is a potential outcome.
I mean, if you’re ordering Pepperoni, no…
If you’re ordering a pumpkin curry with sweet corn on feta/pesto base, and your friends don’t vomit when they try it, you just might be the cheff.
the developer is Anthropic
More like the developers are the people whose code Anthropic stole
