“[F]or a comment. This is ridiculous, for a comment,” he allegedly said. “I guess I’m gonna need a lawyer.”
The comment:
Carillo in one post said Harris doesn’t “have a snowballs chance in hell which is exactly where you’re going and soon. I will cut your eyes out of your FUCKING head” and “will make sure you suffer a slow agonizing death."
He said he would “personally” set Harris on fire “if no one else does."
Carillo said Harris is “going to regret ever trying to become president because if that ever happened I will personally pluck out her eyes with a pair of pliers but first I will shoot and kill everyone that gets in my way that is a fucking promise.”
What is it that this person believes she has done that deserves such a horrible death? It’s hard for me to wrap my mind around why someone thinks like this
There’s been a coordinated campaign of dehumanization in the right-wing media for decades. This guy has been indoctrinated to see her as the enemy and to not see her as a person
Even the most evil people I can think of. The most I’d want them to “suffer” is the realization of how terrible they are, before they enter the void. I don’t want them tortured. I don’t want to hurt them. I just want them to not exist.
The “comments” this guy made are psychotic. I don’t mean that in a hyperbolic kind of way. I mean in a “danger to society” kind of way.
Yep. I’ve written my fair share of angry opinionated comments. I managed to do it without threatening death on any elected officials though, or of anyone at all, and I especially did not do so while also claiming to be a member of the “law and order” party. Somehow, no matter how angry I got, I was able to recognize that assassination was probably not a good line to cross, even in rhetoric.
I just want them to not exist.
So you want them to die, you just don’t want them to be killed? Lol
I certainly see your point. That said, devil’s advocate, the comment doesn’t refer merely to political opponents, but rather:
the most evil people I can think of
Can you honestly say that you wouldn’t painlessly snap, let’s say, a proven serial child rapist out of existence? I think I’d do it, if for some reason the justice system was unable to stop them.
Yeah, there’s a gulf of difference between wanting a problem to disappear vs relishing the incredibly detailed idea of pain and suffering of another human being. One’s like putting down a rabid dog, the other is just pain for pains sake.
I’m not disagreeing with the previous comment, I just thought it was funny.
That’s how war works.
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you forgot “being black”
You forgot “not being black”.
all democrats are blacks and black sympathizers (same thing to these guys)
all democrats are blacks and black sympathizers (same thing to these guys)
So they aren’t all wrong. Black folks have not only been wronged all throughout our nation’s history in obvious and non-obvious ways, IMO they have already been mostly thanklessly taking the brunt of what is coming for the rest of us if Trump gets in again for all this time, and as a people have arguably done so with amazing grace and restraint overall.
I mean, I’m not black, but if such a thing as a “black sympathizer” exists, I’m it.
you know what the fun part is? they literally don’t believe that shit, they NEED to hate blacks.
if you believe that society doesn’t matter and are a hyper individualist, then you need an individual reason why minorities aren’t doing well, if there is an entire “race” of people worse off, more impoverished, more likely to be incarcerated, more likely to be associated with drugs, etc… and you believe society doesn’t have an impact, then clearly something must be wrong with every POC, and you, their supporter, must be wanting to make things worse for everyone
Are you sure it wasn’t “not being a man?”
“not being a white male Republican”
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Think of the children
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She’s a symbolic scapegoat for everything wrong in americans lives and thus the source of everything wrong with this guys life.
Because “Muh Teem No Mattur Wut!” Stupidity, which is pitiable, and Hatefulness, which isn’t.
A figurehead saying the same thing therefore making the act seem normal. That’s why being called weird stings them so much because they know they are, they know you know that and they are counting on you not doing anything about it
She probably wore a tan suit or put mustard on a hot dog at some point in her life.
Not just regular mustard, but the fancy Dijon shit. The type that you can find right next to the regular yellow mustard and is typically only slightly more expensive ($0.20) per 12 FL oz.
Then probably in the next sentence would rant about the violent left
But yeah, I don’t get it, I wouldn’t wish torture even on the worst people in the world and history, it’s just really unnecessary and disturbing
I wonder if it is some kind of frustration burst release that finds a convenient path of list effort in the far-right propaganda. Like when people get furious alone inside their own car and call everybody names, or gamers threatening your life online after some loss, because there’s no perceived emotional consequences so they don’t need to restrain themselves, same idea but more extreme. I don’t think most of those people would have the heart of doing such horrible things if they were in front of their target and had to face the inevitable human empathy. Sociopaths with zero empathy are probably much rarer than Trump supporters.
Out of all the thousand stories we’ve all seen where the message is that sometimes you end up being worse than your enemy, it all flew completely over some people’s heads. They’re different. Sure, other people’s violence isn’t justifiable. But mine is.
“Its just a comment, bro, I was just postin”
Didn’t finish with a “in Minecraft” at the end. Rookie mistake.
What a twat.
How stupid of him. If only had just said “haha sike naw jk lol lol lol” after every sentence.
“Oh I’m sorry, I thought this was America”
Or had an ® after his name
will shoot and kill everyone that gets in my way that is a fucking promise.”
Real small dick energy
I just want to get to a world where “that is a fucking promise” is actually a promise.
This is like the whole “figuratively” vs. “literally” thing turned up to 11. Are you actually, literally promising to do something? If not, then don’t say “I promise” just to make it understood that you feel something passionately.
Like who would have thought that writing shit like this UNDER YOUR OFFICIAL NAME would have consequences?
“I thought this was America where we have FREEDOM OF SPEECH to just comment on how we’re going to torture, mutilate, and kill presidential candidates, not some communist fascist dictatorship. Except if you talk bad about Trump, you’ll get killed for that.” –Somebody somewhere
”For a comment.”
In this day and age, who hasn’t made incredibly specific ultraviolent threats against an elected official while constantly reassuring others that they are serious/making a promise to enact these threats? Did this upstanding citizen simply forget to cite his first amendment rights to the agents?
Oh, wow. Yep, seems like a crime. Laughing about or wishing death is free speech. Indicating that you intend to do something is the line.
Yeah, this sure is “ridiculous”
dude deserves solitary imo.
Yeah the feds aren’t gonna fuck around with a statement like that.
Especially if you own guns.
His comments are way worse if you read the affidavit. That’s just what they chose to publish. He really does threaten her even worse than what the article is directly publishing, not to mention threatening that poor Maricopa county Recorder.
They’ve really normalized this shit to the point they don’t understand why it’s wrong…
It’s just like 1/6, there’s a few that are serious and dangerous, and they’re hiding among a large group of fucking idiots and using them as human shields.
Normalizing violence is something fascists always do before the actual violence, they’re getting people desensitized to the idea of it.
they’ve never understood it to BE wrong, much less why. all they know is the fear mongering rhetoric of “they’re coming to take your guns, turn your kids gay, and forcibly terminate your pregnancies” along with the whole “you’re not a real man if you’re not violent” ideal, since the GOP stance can’t win on policy
My dad was recently telling me a story from back in the 90s when he worked in a rural Wisconsin town close to the Illinois border and his co-workers would “joke” about shooting at cars with Illinois license plates. It’s crazy to me just how long the right has had a culture of sharing fantasies about being violent towards the left. It’s no wonder that the vast majority of mass shooters turn out to be far right nut jobs, they’ve been raised in a culture that glorifies violence against people they disagree with.
Turns out violent threats are not protected speech under the first amendment. Who knew?!
Fuck around and find out.
“Good people of the jury, my client is guilty of nothing more than merely forgetting to append ‘in Minecraft,’ to his statement.”
He specified using pliers. Are there pliers in Minecraft?
I’ve been told there are mods for everything.
They are if you’re in Congress
Oof. Sadly, events of the last few years support your statement. 🙄
Up to 5 years to think about it.
Imagine the level of training to attain such a perspective:
Hoist with his own Google review:
Ouch, the stupid:
approximately 4,359 posts/replies
Give or take
Good job FBI, who knows whether he was serious but there’s a reason there’s an exact statute for this and he actually had weapons - not a good look buddy.
I feel like after one threat like this you shouldn’t legally be allowed to own weapons.
If found with an illegal weapon after these statements should be recited in front of a judge/jury during trial so they know why the person shouldn’t be allowed to have it. These kinds of threats are not things that normal, rational people make.
“Based on training and experience” is “because fucking obviously” but will hold up in court.
Ahaha yeah and they gotta start out with “I ain’t no chump neither”:
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Idk. I think now that boomers are finally shuffling off stage it might.
Lucky that the investigator had that tech training or the suspect could have slipped away
I imagine they cranked into high gear after someone took a shot at Trump. Assassination attempts tend to beget more.
It’s weird the personal amount of attention these people give to hating their politicians and wanting to personally harm them. Like, I hate Trump, but really I just want him to go to jail, I’m not going to throw my life away for somebody that detestable.
It’s because it’s All About Them. Their (as fragile as spun-sugar) ego is all-important, and anything that threatens it has to go. And since they wrap their ego up in Being a Republican, and Being a Strong White Man, and all the racist bullshit that goes with that stance, that makes Harris is a physical manifestation of everything they hate. Such ‘challenges’ to their ego cannot be allowed to exist.
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Imagine the level of training to attain such a perspective
Keep in mind that there’s a lot of dumb people in the world, which is why lawsuits spell out everything, even if some details sound obvious to us.
Oh, indeed, I appreciate the verbosity. You have to admit, seeing that particular phenomenon spelled out is pretty fun!
Winchester, Virginia
Well that explains part of it
I’d have to read the source, but what was the original action that prompted the FBI to ask for all these records? Just looking at this GETTR garbo site, it looks like profiles more/less could be public (as in i can look at accounts without an account), but they also say there they looked at his google map account.
This does feel a little 1st amendment breaking to me though. Maybe they considered the 4k comments so spammy it constituted an attempt to manipulate the forum? I can see the argument in the content, but what argument do they even have to consider it noteworthy. I suppose this is why most websites just ban toxic content like me, so they don’t have the feds on their door. Jesus.
Quick 11-page read here if you wanna try to answer your own question so you can check if I’m off base:
- Write law you can’t threaten [vice] president
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- Find threats against VP
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Ask host for records, examine records, ask host (Google) of connected account for records
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Jail
1A is sacrosanct but the moron went too far.
Jokes (one & two) are dandy though :) Two is funnier while one is more extreme.
I wasn’t trying to JAQ off or anything, I’m just terminally toxic.
IDK who downvoted ya, and wish I’d rephrased:
if you wanna try to answer your own question
Cuz I meant that with, say, a collaborative exploration kinda vibe but it reads more like a dig or something.
:)
Edit: peep that second video! ITYSL is a masterpiece
Imagine living in a country, proclaiming yourself as rabidly patriotic, and not even knowing some of its most basic laws.
Its incredibly common place.
Many such cases
So many people think freedom means they can do whatever they want whenever they want with no restrictions at all
They sure know a lot when it comes to the second amendment…
Tangential but also relevant; I worked in a larger construction company until a year ago and it was multi state. Imagine my surprise when word spread that the FBI was looking for an employee in another department regarding 1/6. Before Jan 6 he had been filmed jumping up on a table at the local Costco with a megaphone and spewing filth.
There are always signs.
“What are you gonna do, arrest me?”
gets arrested
You forgot the surprised pikachu face.
Can’t show that face when it’s on the ground.
This is why you only threaten politicians that are already dead.
For example, pissing on Ronald Reagan’s grave, the deceased shitty actor just to be clear, is still on my bucket list.
When I was a teenager I made an email address, [email protected], inspired by the suicidal tendencies song. Years later in my late 20s or early 30s the secret service showed up at my door to ask about it. I had nearly forgotten I even made it by then. I don’t remember if Reagan was dead yet but he was on his llast legs. I guess they’re super thorough when it comes to anything other than that one roof near Trump’s rally
No word on whether they investigated Mike Muir in the 80s when the song was written and Reagan was still alive/relevant
Not a native English speaker, but I automatically read it is hot Reagan. You could’ve told them you just had the hotties for ol’ Ronnie.
Is hot ‘Faye’ Reagan
Native English speaker, and I saw Is Hot Reagan.
Muir also shot Kennedy and the devil, if I’m remembering right.
They forgave him of all wrong doing when How will I laugh tomorrow was released.
He should he catastrophically exhumed in a few thousand pieces
Is there a statue of limitations on pooping on bill Taft or do we gotta form a line
For these mouth-breathers, “'Murica! Freeeedum!” means:
Whatever lazy, angry, ignorant, all-viscera-no-brains image I cooked up while living alone and bitter in a neglected and crumbling old house with a few “KEEP OUT!”/“TRESPASSERS WILL BE SHOT” signs around the goddamned perimeter.Their tiny little minds live in a tiny, narrow and flat, miserable little world. And here’s the kicker - that’s the way they want it, out of sheer lazy inertia.
Ah, yes Shabriri, I know thee well.
Guided by the three fingers to be Lord of Frenzy.
Just a poor soul looking for some grapes to help see the faded light of the guiding grace.
May chaos take the world!
The DLC actually has an amazing boss fight related to frenzy
Might be the only bossfight I enjoyed in this dlc.
Fucker sneezed during his booking photo and they didnt let him re-take it lol
Maybe he has resting sneeze face?
What a dumb ass.
iT wAs JuSt A pRaNk BrO
I don’t think the nickname Crapler Harris is going to stick.
Donald “Diaper Dump” Trump works better.
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No one’s ever accused right-wingers of being creative.
They have. My FIL has routinely refered to her as “Camel hair Harris.” It’s childish and disgusting.
In Canada, the Conservatives came up with Trudumb for Trudeau.
Trudope was literally right there. His name is True + dope without the p at the end.
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We have it, but it’s not very common. But that’s a plausible hypothesis!
At least this guy will no longer have access to guns after this.
As long as he: a) doesn’t get a trump judge and b) trump doesn’t get in office.
Unfortunately for him
“[F]or a comment. This is ridiculous, for a comment,” he allegedly said. “I guess I’m gonna need a lawyer.”
Is essentially an confession that it was his comment, from a jury’s perspective. Not that I would expect a moron that makes death threats to know when not to speak.
Heh, try that in a small town.
