Have we really become so lazy that we don’t even want to learn a minimum of a programming language, especially if you work in IT? Sure, if you have no training or education in IT and just want to make a quick app to help your personal projects, go crazy. But I’d say even then you’d he doing yourself a disfavor by not even looking at some documentation for 5 minutes. It seems like today people completely disregard the value of constant learning, even if it won’t result in the next Apple, I feel like learning something new even surface-level can only be beneficial. Vibe-coding is just one aspect, the fact people are reading worse and worse further shows that learning simply lost its appeal, people just want to make money believing billionaires who tell them “oh anyone can be like me, without school or education you just need crypto or whatever the next finance bro trend is”.
I don’t understand people who don’t have a desire to learn. Learning is fun and rewarding. The feeling when you can start putting the thing you learned into practical uses for yourself is amazing.
I wrote a 60 page manual for the machine my code runs on and I have talked to a total of one (1) person who actually checked the manual for his problem before calling us for help.
What are you actually learning? Coding hasn’t changed substantially in 10 years. You might have picked up some rust along the way but what are you actually reading?
This isn’t specifically related to coding. I’m taking about any manual, be it for a programming language, or a microwave oven. Regarding my particular field of endeavor, how many people that drive cars are even remotely familiar with the actual road rules legislation, or even looked at them since they got their licence? See also the people that complain about following Ikea instructions as if they aren’t the simplest possible instructions to follow.
Its putting me off learning to code properly if anything. I’m cripplingly thin-skinned so until recently I only had to deal with elitism from people who already know what they’re doing. You ask for help and instead of showing you what is wrong, or give you advice on what to learn first, they just rip you apart using words you’ve never heard before.
Now you’ve got people on the other end of the scale looking down their nose at your puny creation. Not because they know the answer to your problem, but because you spent all week trying to do that and they did in 2 minutes bro.
I’m honestly shocked how normalized this is.
Have we really become so lazy that we don’t even want to learn a minimum of a programming language, especially if you work in IT? Sure, if you have no training or education in IT and just want to make a quick app to help your personal projects, go crazy. But I’d say even then you’d he doing yourself a disfavor by not even looking at some documentation for 5 minutes. It seems like today people completely disregard the value of constant learning, even if it won’t result in the next Apple, I feel like learning something new even surface-level can only be beneficial. Vibe-coding is just one aspect, the fact people are reading worse and worse further shows that learning simply lost its appeal, people just want to make money believing billionaires who tell them “oh anyone can be like me, without school or education you just need crypto or whatever the next finance bro trend is”.
I don’t understand people who don’t have a desire to learn. Learning is fun and rewarding. The feeling when you can start putting the thing you learned into practical uses for yourself is amazing.
As someone that always Reads The Fucking Manual, it’s frustrating to live in a world full of people that never Read The Fucking Manual.
I wrote a 60 page manual for the machine my code runs on and I have talked to a total of one (1) person who actually checked the manual for his problem before calling us for help.
What are you actually learning? Coding hasn’t changed substantially in 10 years. You might have picked up some rust along the way but what are you actually reading?
This isn’t specifically related to coding. I’m taking about any manual, be it for a programming language, or a microwave oven. Regarding my particular field of endeavor, how many people that drive cars are even remotely familiar with the actual road rules legislation, or even looked at them since they got their licence? See also the people that complain about following Ikea instructions as if they aren’t the simplest possible instructions to follow.
You’re comparing figuring shit yourself to ai vibing it for you? Wow. Just fantastic. Really going with consistent themes here.
What are the two themes to you? Because I see
I didn’t learn it so I can’t do it
You should always learn it
Seems pretty consistent to me
Its putting me off learning to code properly if anything. I’m cripplingly thin-skinned so until recently I only had to deal with elitism from people who already know what they’re doing. You ask for help and instead of showing you what is wrong, or give you advice on what to learn first, they just rip you apart using words you’ve never heard before.
Now you’ve got people on the other end of the scale looking down their nose at your puny creation. Not because they know the answer to your problem, but because you spent all week trying to do that and they did in 2 minutes bro.