Stop making poor excuses for using AI. both AI and Adobe are evil. Juts pirate photoshop, put in some effort and creativity and stop complaining, unless it’s about AI.
Juts pirate photoshop
Fuck that, piracy gives them more legitimacy than they deserve. I will use gimp.
I cannot understand anything from gimp. It’s so counter intuitive, I even prefer ms paint over gimp. Sad, because I would love to have a proper alternative to PS.
I felt that when I had to try using Photoshop at work once. Then after 20 minutes I just installed gimp.
Maybe I should give it another try. Thanks!
That’s probably for three reasons:
- some “interesting” UI decision in GIMP
- force of habits
- GIMP is not a replacement for photoshop
Photoshop merges two very different things, editing and drawing. If you do only editing, GIMP is great. If you also do drawing/painting, GIMP is completely subpar, but Krita is fantastic.
There’s also other tools of course. But GIMP, by itself, is not close to be a remplacement for all of photoshop.
“Use gimp to replace photoshop!” - Linux users
“GIMP is not a replacement for photoshop” - Also linux users
Maybe there are as many different Linux users as there are Photoshop alternatives.
At least 2-3…I mean, some day, there will be as many Linux users.
I found that the PhotoGIMP patch helps transition from Photoshop to GIMP.
this patch transforms GIMP’s interface by mimicking Photoshop’s layout, reorganizing tools, adjusting canvas settings, and reassigning keyboard shortcuts to match Adobe’s documentation.
Wow that’s amazing! Thanks!
Saving this for the next time I’m trying to convince a friend to move from Photoshop to GIMP
Same here. I use Gimp but I don’t like the UI at all.
Also the name makes me think of a Gimp suit every fucking time. I know it’s an acronym but guys that’s a poorly thought-out acronym to use…
Thank you. Im so sick of gimp being the constant recommendation when its UI sucks so much.
Not that ive found any other good options. The one that came close, Affinity, had controls so wack compared to what I’m used to that I gave up when it asked me to log in, again. Which in itself was giving me some real shady vibes.
Have you tried Krita?
I’ve been trying to familiarize myself with it and found it way more appealing than gimp. But it’s still not close to a 1:1 for Photoshop’s flow.
don’t tell people to use Photoshop
That’s still leaves you dependent on a corporation. I prefer a world where they no longer exist because it isn’t economically viable anymore.
Why? An old copy of photoshop 7 or CS has no dependancy on any corporation. Even if Adobe goes bankrupt, the pirated old versions still work perfectly. You’re just missing the AI tools the newer versions have, which is a bonus because, again, fuck AI.
It doesn’t. Use GIMP or Krita.
You’re still dependent on Adobe if you use a clone of their software which has been cleanroom reverse engineered and re-implemented. And then it needs to happen all over again when Adobe releases a new version. It’s just a Rube Goldberg way of getting Photoshop and the clone is probably a buggy mess.
If you get enough people to move to the clone, that stops being true though. The clone gets to decide the direction from that point onwards.
It’s not a copy of adobe’s code, it’s all new code that’s simply implements the same features. So Adobe releasing a new version won’t have any effect.
Yeah so this is how this shit gets normalized.
Fuck Adobe yeah but don’t fuckin use ai.
Funny how the general mood for ai has shifted. Find an alternative or you’re just another part of the problem
There already a bunch of good open source alternatives but some reason everyone wants to stay with adobe
Even a single use of AI we deem ethical is still ultimately, not.
The models are trained on stolen material; modern day techno-colonialism.
I just hope Adobe sue Anthropic
There are models you can host yourself that are not
The models themselves were built unethically; you self hosting it locally is the least of my concerns.
There are models that are specifically built ethically.
Aka, they only use public domain books etc. to train them
Personally I don’t need adobe or slop adobe. After many attempts and some effort I found that the non-AI open source alternatives were good enough, or in some cases even better, once I had a more open mind and stopped expecting them to be 1:1 to adobe.
i love gimp, but the trouble you need to go through to make text with outline is just painful. ive done it that way for years now and i recently learned on photoshop its just a toggle :c
Krita > Gimp
Also Inkscape > Illustrator but no one ever talks about this
For real Inkscape is fkng goated
Inkscape it’s amazing
I never understood when people say gimp is an alternative to Photoshop. Gimp is closer to MS paint than Photoshop.
No, it can’t do half the things MS Paint can, either. If anything, what it compares most closely to are older versions of JASC Paint Shop Pro. But since my image editing requirements are fairly basic, GIMP is actually pretty good for my usage.
Yeah I absolutely love FOSS and we should support it and use it, but also let’s not lie and glaze (albeit great) projects into something they’re not, or at least are not yet. Because then it becomes this weird circlejerk of implying that it’s just a skill issue actually, if you can’t manage to move your entire workflow to x Foss project.
This is especially true when talking to creative professionals who have been pigeonholed into a certain software or system of apps. And to pretend that this is just an individual issue is extremely dense, this is another example of capitalism providing “so much freedom and choice” and meanwhile, there’s very clear monopolies that are reinforced by industry standards, advertising, and public opinion being swayed by said advertising and conditioning.
I don’t know who’s saying those things. I certainly am not.
Many people in YouTube comments, which sure I’m sure that a good number of them are bots. But even if only 20% are people, that’s still a good number of people saying this rhetoric.
Also the person above did not implicate that either. I was just talking generally.
I agree with one exception.
The AI denoising in Lightroom is absolutely spectacular, and I can’t find anything in league with it in open source. I’m sure that will change soon, though.
That’s basically what AI is best at: incorporating lots and lots of data points (every single pixel on an image, many trillions of pixels on previous images used to train the model) to determine the best answer to a question with clear definitions of what is better or worse on a single-dimensional quality axis that most people would agree on. In this case, whether a de-noised photo looks good and accurately represents the image that could have been captured of the exact same scene using more light or a better sensor or whatever.
It’s generative AI where things fall apart. The analogy I always use is that these math techniques are great for inferring what is between pixels in a low res image, but starts going off the rails when it starts guessing what’s beyond the edges of the image. These AI algorithms are just math, and math with this many data points needs to start considering the limitations described by chaos theory (in the mathematical sense).
Slop vs Adobe loses… This is torture!
My perspective is, I’m happy the tool is being used to harm the financial interests of these awful companies. Adobe is who kicked off the whole subscription craze that swept through every other industry. These greedy assholes even steal all your personal works to feed to their AI machine as a prerequisite for using their tools.
For as evil and Hitler-coded as Adobe is, AI slop is so much worse.
I want both to get nuked into glass.
If you use any AI generated software, whether it’s to undermine a corp or not, you are continuing the problem.
You think these companies don’t have investments in the same AI that’s making the ‘open source’ version? You dangle your wallet in front of them like bait while they steal the bread off your table. Except you don’t have any bread because the field is a datacenter now and the water needed for irrigation has been diverted to it. And you conttributed. Zero tolerance for AI.
“The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them”
I’m more excited as to what this could mean for wine.
Anecdotal: I have wanted to replay a game that was a core part of my childhood. It was only really popular in Scandinavia. Nothing I’ve tried in the past many years worked (to be fair, it was also beyond my skillset). Couple days ago I just gave AI the task to make the game work under wine. Couple hours later and I’m playing it on Linux without issue. Even discovered and patched two bugs related to video decoding in wine to make it work. I would not find anyone else with the interest to make this game work I think!
They missed a big opportunity by not calling it Photoslop
AI slop implies AI peak.
This project brings a smile to my face.
Am I the only one who’s been happy with Affinity on Linux? I know it’s still corporate BS that came from a good intention and got turned into this freemium by Canva. I know it will enshittify as soon as market share allows. I’m happier with this for now than I am with gimp. So what’s worse, enshittifying freemium or AI Slopensource?
I appreciate the sentiment, but I would not try it at this point - some people have said that it would straight up corrupt files when attempting to save, and I wouldn’t risk it like this, even with backups.
Maybe I should just give Darktable another chance.
Based. Fuck Adobe.
