i’m not sure that’s necessarily torture, inhumane conditions for sure.
As I said, your quibbling over the definition of torture, ignoring the actual issue here: is this “inhumane treatment” appropriate for someone who hasn’t been charged with a crime?
But it’s also not clear how long people are being held either
She was held for 11 days, it’s in the first paragraph.
i would assume that revoking a visa, is a denial of entry,
"She attempted to return to the States with the new visa
I would assume being granted a new visa is a statement that "it’s okay to come back now’.
The judicial branch has already done something about it. It’s definitionally illegal
And no one is listening to them.
the scotus, and hoping they side with the law.
The same SCOTUS that already ruled that Trump can not be charged with a crime? If they side with these illegal actions will that be reason to act? Or will the response be “The Court says this is legal so I guess it’s fine.”
They are boiling the frog slowly. If you were asked a year ago if everything that’s happening now would be cause to do something and start protesting most people would have said “of course!” But somehow by the time the US got here people are still saying “we’ll protest when things actually start happening”.
People who have committed no crimes are being detained with no charges in inhumane conditions for weeks, and everyone in a position of power is fine with this. So I continue to ask you name something that if it were to happen it would definately be time for Americans to do something. It doesn’t have to be the exact line in the sand, it can be something that “we should be protesting before this happens, but if it has gotten to this point we definately should be opposing it.”
Holding people in inhumane conditions isn’t enough.
Denying reporters access to the country because they have been critical of Trump in the past isn’t enough.
Deporting American citizens to foreign prisons isn’t enough.
The fact that a judge said they can’t deport American citizens to foreign prisons and they still did it anyway isn’t enough.
As I said, your quibbling over the definition of torture, ignoring the actual issue here: is this “inhumane treatment” appropriate for someone who hasn’t been charged with a crime?
She was held for 11 days, it’s in the first paragraph.
I would assume being granted a new visa is a statement that "it’s okay to come back now’.
And no one is listening to them.
The same SCOTUS that already ruled that Trump can not be charged with a crime? If they side with these illegal actions will that be reason to act? Or will the response be “The Court says this is legal so I guess it’s fine.”
They are boiling the frog slowly. If you were asked a year ago if everything that’s happening now would be cause to do something and start protesting most people would have said “of course!” But somehow by the time the US got here people are still saying “we’ll protest when things actually start happening”.
People who have committed no crimes are being detained with no charges in inhumane conditions for weeks, and everyone in a position of power is fine with this. So I continue to ask you name something that if it were to happen it would definately be time for Americans to do something. It doesn’t have to be the exact line in the sand, it can be something that “we should be protesting before this happens, but if it has gotten to this point we definately should be opposing it.”
Holding people in inhumane conditions isn’t enough.
Denying reporters access to the country because they have been critical of Trump in the past isn’t enough.
Deporting American citizens to foreign prisons isn’t enough.
The fact that a judge said they can’t deport American citizens to foreign prisons and they still did it anyway isn’t enough.
So what is enough?