Summary
The Atlantic has published unredacted attack plans (non-paywall link) shared in a Signal group chat of senior Trump officials, including Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, CIA Director John Ratcliffe, and DNI Tulsi Gabbard.
Editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg released the full texts after officials denied sharing war plans or classified information, arguing transparency was necessary amid accusations of dishonesty.
The leaked messages detailed U.S. military strikes targeting Houthis in Yemen.
If there’s one thing that “both sides” agree on, it’s that it’s ok to murder people in Yemen. Just don’t mess up the genociding with poor OpSec, because that’s a problem. smh.
These people won’t get in trouble because they’re serving fascism. It doesn’t matter if they leak their wacko plans because they’re attacking impoverished non-white people on the other side of the planet.
Are your smh transmissions being downplayed? You need the all new:
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They dropped the guy’s girlfriend’s apartment building on him to kill him.
Hope it was a townhouse and not a tower.
The fucking disregard for human life.Collateral damage matters to those in power insofar as the victims are popular with the voting public.
And when you can limit access to voting, gerrymander, and run illegal lotteries to skew the vote, well… then the voters don’t matter either.
oops military go vroom
My favorite quote is the one where he says it could leak lol
“…If this leaks we look indecisive”
Try incompetent beyond reason. This clown world is funny if people weren’t dying.
Of course… the main thing is how they look not what good they do. It’s unforgiveable
Also this:
Pete Hegseth, after broadly describing the big picture situation/rationale for the strike, that same block of text you pulled the ‘we look indecisive’ from:
But, we can easily pause. And if we do, I will do all we can to enforce 100% OPSEC.
… I don’t even know what to say.
He said he would do all he can.
We know what his best is now.
Ten Bezos Bux says nothing will come of this.
Trump has already written it off saying “Waltz learned his lesson.”
So now we get to see if anyone is actually willing to stand up to Trump.
Why not hire someone who isn’t learning their lessons as they go? You know, someone with experience?
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Do you want something to come out of this? I personally don’t want Trump (or any other US president) having an efficient war machine.
Well, we all knew they would be damning as fuck and they are damning as fuck.
How they goaded him into releasing those damning as fuck texts instead of just saying “sorry, we fucked up” is beyond me but here we find ourselves.
Feel like they’re gonna throw Hegseth under the bus now.
Feel like they’re gonna throw Hegseth under the
busCybertruck now.It has been rebranded by public demand as the SwastiKKKar.
That would just break the Swastitruck, no?
Remember “covfefe?”
If they admit they fucked up, they look “weak” to their base, which expects “strong men.” Normal human traits like empathy and humility are anathema to these creeps.
He looks really special in that pic.
I am so glad i was wrong. Props for releasing the info.
But I thought the defense secretary said it didn’t happen! It’s a smear job!
Good. Should have done that to begin with.
Who CARES? They will LIVE and LEARN! Unlike HER EMAILS!
What about “Fast And Furious?”
The take there was that the President is personally responsible for any action taken by any subordinate.
What happened with her emails? HRC was prosecuted or something? Or did they just do nothing then too?
The state almost never punishes itself.
Turns out she was innocent. She didn’t follow the protocol for classified documents. However the documents were not classified until after they were sent. She didn’t break the law.
It didn’t stop them though. Something must’ve been in those documents because they got buried in bureaucracy in following lawsuits.
In June 2016, in response to the Republican National Committee’s complaints filed in March 2016, the State Department estimates it will take 75 years to complete the review of documents which are responsive to the complaints. It has been observed that a delay of this nature would cause the documents to remain out of public view longer than the vast majority of classified documents which must be declassified after 25 years.
A CIA spokesperson asked us to withhold the name of John Ratcliffe’s chief of staff, which Ratcliffe had shared in the Signal chain, because CIA intelligence officers are traditionally not publicly identified. Ratcliffe had testified earlier yesterday that the officer is not undercover and said it was “completely appropriate” to share their name in the Signal conversation. We will continue to withhold the name of the officer. Otherwise, the messages are unredacted.
The news outlet these fucktards accidentally leaked their detailed operational plan and timeline to…
… is still excersizing better OPSEC than the actual head of the CIA.
EDIT:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_2sODSpJo2A
Watch this clip of Mark Kelly with some pretty on point questions for Gabbard and Ratcliffe, listen to their responses, and go read through the full text chat.
Watch more of the hearings.
I think there’s a pretty decent case Tulsi actually fucked up enough in her testimony that she actually did a perjury, Ratcliffe however, was both a bit more conciliatory and ever so slightly more honest, and also a bit better at just giving ‘I don’t recall’ answers.
Exactly.
Gabbard tried to be more clever than she actually is.
Man, I miss old school Chappelle… Ever since he brought Elon Musk on stage I’ve just been hoping he’d go the fuck away.
I have been in fucking EVE Online corporations with better OPSEC than these guys.
This would be hilarious if I didn’t fucking live here.
i’m not even educated in opsec or sysadmin work and i have better fucking security lmao.
Oh yeah absolutely.
I never partook in any of that myself, but yeah I’ve watched/listened to some hours of youtube videos doing their best to recount some of the more insane history of subterfuge, sabotage, getting rival clan members installed as spies, as CEOs and masters of coin in their enemy’s corps, draining all their funds and liquidating an entire clan after a 3 year long deep undercover op with the spies regularly being on voicechats of some kind, and then just doing the deed and ghosting everyone …
…fucking bonkers shit for a video game clans… but yeah, many of those kinds of stories show people with better understanding of spycraft and opsec than… the literal, actual, current heads of the CIA, DoD, etc.
absolute clown world.
I don’t understand. If they don’t recall why can’t they just open up their personal phone and check?
… So, the angle they are going with now is that this was a very serious offensive and nefarious act perpetrated against Mike Waltz, the guy who created the group chat.
M Waltz is saying that well hey maybe this piece of shit Goldberg guy (the journalist) hacked his way into the chat? Maybe it was an inside job, or an outside cyberattack, and somebody swapped out Goldberg’s phone number with another one of my contacts, so that when I tried to add a legit person who should have been in that group chat, it tricked me and added Goldberg!
… Yeah. These idiots are unfortunately in charge of investigating themselves, and at least Mike Waltz seems to be saying ‘no it is utterly impossible that I accidentally added the wrong guy to the chat, I was clearly the victim of some kind of hack!’
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hJ2gxzPEzjU
Yes, Mike Waltz ‘takes full responsibility’… by positing an inconsistent mess of possible cyberattacks/manipulation techniques that could have been used against him, absolutely no way he fat fingered a contact add, nope.
Did they leave out some high ranking general with the same name? In their frantic CYA narrative isn’t there some key person missing from the chat, and if so why not name them?
I mean, you nailed it right there, if it was that, then they could just say who had the similar name.
… but that isn’,t possible when everyone involved is a sentient piece of ratshit molded into the form of a human, that has absolutely no ability to ever admit any fault or take responsibility for anything, ever.
These people are all completely unqualified, sociopathic opportunists with moral fiber composed of fucking anti matter, they’d instantly explode if they ever attempted to flex those moral muscles and develop any actual principles.
I have, entirely seriously, known multiple meth/fentanyl addicts (in the process of detoxing) with better moral character, sense of responsibility for their actions, honesty, loyalty, and principles they strive to live by.
Turns out that the current administration was just a bunch of DUI hires.
OK extremely explosive texts sent via signal, a no go because of security concerns and people screaming. Yeah wtf how much have you been upside down? American ISP’s and important infrastructure has been completely hacked with the Chinese for a long time (thus certainly also forwarding to Russia) and Trump has ended all attempts against what companies directly and lets the attackers continue peacefully in. Not a no go? No uprising? So if Russia and China can secretly monitor all traffic in America (so that end devices can also be infected and messages can be attacked directly even before anything is encrypted) is that absolutely ok…?
Dafuq wtf
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Lmao Waltz saying he is going to try and figure out “how the heck he got into this room” and then the first text screenshot literally says “Michael Waltz added you to the group” is so goddamn hilarious to me.
This is some real old white guy, how did this get here i am not good with computer energy lmfao
Oh, yeah, these guys sat in front of the Senate yesterday and flatly lied about all of it. At the end, one of the Democrats said that it wouldn’t be long before they had the transcripts, which would be compared to their testimony, analyzed for discrepancies, and legal options considered.
The MAGA Nazis aren’t really worried, they know there is no possible way that HitlerPig, Big Booby Bondi, or the Nazi legislature will do anything about it, and even if they did, HitlerPig would just pardon them, but at least it’s one more egregious national security lapse/lie that the Dems can beat them with forever.
IF the Dems ever show the guts to fight back.
Oh wow, proof it also has disappearing messages enabled.
I don’t know the legality of the messages being able to disappear, but the fact it’s enabled is a clear cut violation of the law.
Eh, they could have had a service forwarding the messages to a database running on one of the group’s member’s devices.
Yeah sure thing. The guy who has already been caught mishandling classified documents… The guy who literally ate the notes from a meeting he had with Putin so nobody would see them.
Right.
Holy crap that’s insane I had to look it up and yes apparently that happened. wtf there’s so much news I can’t keep up
And that’s from last term when things were more chaotic, with less focused effort towards dismantling everything.
Lol. That would be uncharacteristic at this point. They need to show us the servers before I believe that
They can’t. The server is in the basement of a friend’s house (not a government employee) because they got a really good deal on it!
Buttery males?
Surely the server is in the magalago bathroom with the stolen classified documents?
And how likely do you think that is? Given the clown show that has gotten them to this point.
you would think they would then be using a government hosted platform, instead of signal, but i guess that makes too much sense.
So thankful we avoided GeNoCiDe JoE!
This is way better! …but then again, the world is only black or white… so maybe not. I guess the internet wanted this and so here we are.
This trope if pathetic, only Americans think this way. You need an actual opposition party then, not neoliberalism. Because fascism wins either with your way of thinking.
No politician offering universal healthcare, affordable housing, paid time off, better wages, resistance against genocide, etc. and etc. And youre mad at the voters? You see how fucked up that is?
Blaming others and voters will keep making your situation worse and worse, until they come after you as well. You could instead use your energy to protest in various ways or to support or help to challenge and create new parties or structures.
Keep dogging on your own citizens and youre gonna be next. Literally the playbook of Nazis. “First they came for…”
Sigh. Harris would be more competently bombing people in Yemen, so I’m happy with Trump in charge when it comes to this.
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The prevalent message is what counts.
Kinda like saying a handful of idiots pushed a narrative about Hillary’s server. More idiots bought that line but it was started by a small group.
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The vote was within 2M. Yes, they changed the outcome.
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Do you understand how gerrymandering works? It doesn’t apply directly to Presidential elections.
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Why not both? It’s entirely possible to push for progressive policies while also acknowledging the role cultural influence and the internet holds…
Easier that being an asshole really.
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Fox News my summer child and people like you…
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It’s this rhetoric that plays perfectly into the class divide that the corporate asshats want everyone to fall for. “It’s your fault for not voting for the other corporate shill party!” Disregarding the fact that the main difference is one party is just mask off, and the other is mask on fascist. As many people rightly point out, the dems are controlled opposition. If they weren’t there would literally have been much more fight and pushback from them for the four years before Trump 2.0 (especially since they knew it was coming faaar in advance) rather then the milquetoast response we got from them, this was made quite obvious by the dems moving right in many policies and stumping with Cheney of all people. If these people really gave a shit about appealing to their constituents, they would’ve listened to the damn voters. This is all beside the point as modern American voting IS NOT determined by the voting public, but much more powerful interests. If you really believed your vote was effecting something in this, or any other election in the past 20+ years, I have a bridge to sell you in the Sahara.
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Yes, you hold some of this blood in your hands. Complaining won’t absolve you of it. Thank you for your disservice, what are you doing to help correct it?
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Cool, so your criticism is worth nothing
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The truth gets old, got it.
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they most certainly influenced the election, whether or not they were responsible or not is a bit more complicated to answer.
Whether or not they should’ve voted is the simplest possible answer you could give. The answer was yes, and they didn’t.
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i mean i literally made that argument in my comment, but please, keep coping.
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i know, i spent so long making it, please respond, i sent you pictures of my toe beans. ._.
If they voted, they would’ve changed the outcome. Lol
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That’s literally cause and effect my dude, are you refuting fundamental natural phenomena instead of just admitting you made a mistake?
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The Trump administration has a lot of catching up to do if they want to get even remotely close to the number of casualties and the staggering destruction caused by Genocide Joe.
covid much?
Covid is on the Trump administration now?
Fucking YES.
yeah thank god all those left leaning voters didn’t vote for kamala, we would be in so much worse of a position now.
Wasn’t it Obama that normalized the indiscriminate use of drone strikes in civilian areas without congressional approval?
Democrats are just more competent about their use of military action.
Killed an underage American boy in the very same country that is getting bombed again.
The problem is that republicans and democrats are still all american.
Why do people even fight for these clowns?
