- cross-posted to:
- world@quokk.au
- cross-posted to:
- world@quokk.au
Summary
Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered 160,000 more Russians aged 18–30 be drafted from April 1 to July 15, amid U.S.-brokered ceasefire talks.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy warned the Kremlin is preparing a major offensive in Sumy, Kharkiv, and Zaporizhzhia, accusing Russia of stalling negotiations to gain territorial leverage.
Over 100,000 Russian soldiers are confirmed dead. Ukraine reported 46,000 dead and 380,000 wounded.
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I can hear this image.
Conscript reporting.
Ukraine is Russia’s Vietnam.
or Russia’s Afghanistan
Afghanistan is everyone’s Afghanistan 😂
Afghanistan is Russia’s Afghanistan.
Afghanistan is Afghanistan’s Afghanistan too.
glad you picked that up haha
Ukraine is about nearly 10x Vietnam at this point.
Hell, Russia experienced a Vietnam level of loss in about 2 months during the Avdiivka offensive.
Love this for the Russians. Maybe they’ll wake up and take this boot off their necks one day
Clearly showing what he really thinks of Trump’s bullshit “peace” plan.
I wonder if Krasnov will keep barking or biting his master with those tariffs on Oil…
That beef is as fake as a WWE plotline.
more fertilizer for the ukrainian soil
This is America’s future. Conscription is in Project 2025 and make no mistakes about it. The Christian Nationalist Death Cult would love to send you to the front.
According to this article, project 2025 doesn’t do that. It proposes requiring students to take the military ASVAB test. Which honestly isn’t the worst idea. In my high school they recommended people who didn’t know what they wanted to do for a career to take it even if they weren’t going into the military.
They are planning to make all public school kids take the test but not the private school kids. It will be for conscription. They will know where to throw your ass to make the meat grinder run better. That’s the only reason for this bullshit
Believable, and on point for these fascists, but you got a source? OP does.
Private schools don’t have to follow the same requirements as public schools already. The person above you is just inferring that since they’re already separate in the current system, the new ASVAB requirement would also be separate. But until it becomes an actual law, it isn’t super useful arguing hypotheticals in this context.
I think it’s a very useful point to flag. These details are important.
Huh… They made all of us take it. But I went to school in a rural red state in the mid 90s.
You went to the shit schools, I went to school in the south, they gerrymandered them so the kids of poor parents took them while the rich kids didn’t (and got actual schooling).
Yep 100% went to a shit school. I’d not be surprised if the asvab paid the school for each person that took it
Doesn’t that just make it easier for the US to conscript people?
It’s a 3 hour aptitude test. Are you good at math? Are you good at electronics? Etc. I would imagine it’s a minor speed bump to joining the military.
No physical component?
No. The hardest math is some insanely light algebra too. X = 5y kind of stuff.
It still opens the door to enlistment and being harassed to join the military, conning poor kids into making a mistake.
I mean, I was harassed to enlist despite actively going to college (officers usually get a commission after college), despite repeatedly telling them I was not interested and never taking the test.
Just fail it so that you would need a waiver to join
Just fail it
So you can be shuffled in with the grunts rather than the officers?
The military loves putting dumb-dumbs through basic and stacking them on the front lines to catch stray bullets.
I mean, you can also fail out at basic too IIRC.
Also, you need a college degree to be a commissioned officer.
You only fall out of basic if you’re an invalid. The military is very good at beating compliance into anyone else.
You can absolutely get chaptered out for failing basic multiple times.
Or if ever American says they’re gay, they’d never join the military because DEI and such.
Or just be black, brown, Asian, trans, a celebrity or rich. America doesn’t want any of that in the military either
They don’t want poc or women to be career.
They want women pregnant, so they are “safe” in that sense. They want white officers commanding brown conscripts to go do the dying.
That just means you are the cannon fodder style infantry. You’ll be the guy sent out to catch a drone or two.
Just don’t ace it or every branch of the military will start harassing you at home trying to get you to join.
Lol have you seen kids these days? I’d be surprised if more than 15 percent are fit for service, and of that 15% maybe half would pass a drug screen.
Kids in the 1960s were the same, and the USA still sent them off to get killed, maimed, and traumatized for the rest of their lives.
It’s a fucking depressing state of affairs…
No, childhood obesity is way up since then.
Fat people can still fly drones and kill political enemies
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Have you seen what Russia is throwing out to get blown up? As long as you can absorb some rounds they don’t care.
This is America’s future. Conscription is in Project 2025
Americans could still prevent that future if a few million of them got off their asses and took action against the fascist takeover of their country.
But that would get in the way of watching American idol, and HoneyBooBoo reruns, wouldn’t it…
Nah I’m too trans to be let in even as a conscript. They would rather just kill me domestically 🎉
The Christian Nationalist Death Cult would love to send you to the front.
To fight for Russia against Ukraine or Israel against Iran. Maybe if they’re in a good mood, you’ll be able to choose which genocide you participate in.
Isn’t conscription already a thing in USA? Many countries silently paused conscription but it’s just there
Not since the 70’s
That’s the other guys point. We haven’t used it since the 70s, but the system is still in place to be used. Easy to fire it up again.
My point was at least half or more of the US population has little-to-no-memory of what that was like.
My dad was drafted during the Vietnam era but I’m in my 50’s and have no actual memory of that time.
I know it happened but I was really young when they stopped the draft and we’ve had several generations born since then who also have no memory of it.
It would be politically dangerous for a government to restart a draft absent an actual world war-type situation or a dictatorship.
That’s what people don’t understand about the Vietnam War. People were against the war, but if it was waged by volunteers, then most people would have accepted it grudgingly. It was the draft that made everybody lose their fucking minds.
Imagine being a teenaged boy in America, during the 60s, knowing that when you turn 18, you will be eligible for the draft. The government will literally kidnap you from the bedroom in your parents’ house, where you have spent every night of your life. You’ve never experienced any aspect of adult life, you’re probably a virgin, but now you’re given a few weeks of basic training, and sent halfway across the world to a country you couldn’t find on a globe a few months ago, to kill or be killed. The life expectancy of an inexperienced new draftee thrown into the war zone was extremely short.
Complicating the issue was that many fathers were supportive of the war, because they had fought in WWII, but that was a war with a clear reason and objective. Nobody could clearly articulate why we were in Vietnam, nor what would define a “victory.”
Obviously, extreme fear defined every young man in America, as well as their families. HitlerPig and his henchmen love instilling fear into people, and a draft is a particularly insidious way to do that. I have no doubt that when HitlerPig launches his wars (there will almost certainly be more than one, it will be a World War, after all), he will gleefully demand a draft, and use it to threaten and punish his enemies.
I will say this unequivocally: There is no way that I will allow my son to be drafted into a HitlerPig war. And if somehow they get their hands on him, I will have nothing to lose, and will become a very dangerous individual. Of my personal red lines to not cross, that is my bightest and reddest.
Rest in peace you poor bastards. Forced to fight a rich mans war… for nothing.
Yep so many will due horribly because of their awful dictator
I call bullshit on them being Russian.
Where are they from then?
Ethnic Russians from the Moscow area are not being conscripted at the same rates as minority groups from the poorer areas of Russia.
The point isn’t to win, the point is to cleanse the population of ethnic non-Russians.
That’s a secondary goal.
How many will be oligarchs sons?
Or even any from large cities?
BYOB - System of a Down
My first thought was CCR - Fortunate son
We can’t make it here anymore - James McMurtry also has something to say on the subject.
i love that song
on the bright side the Russian meatgrinder companies should see increased sales
Hopefully this pisses Trump off. Take some of your threats Donny and lob them at Russia.
Vlad should call his MAGA supporters to join his cause and it will fulfill their need for violence.
Also they would take heavy casualties. Use them as pure cannon fodder.
And it’s 1 2 3 what are we fighting for don’t ask me I don’t give a damn next stop is Zaporizhzhia
That’s a lot of meat for the grinder
Good. More russians in the meatgrinder equals weaker russia.
And weaker Ukraine
