Teddy Roosevelt is rolling in his grave.
where do i go to lab about chaining myself to a tree or whatever
This motherfucker wants to clear cut the boundary waters. All these special areas destroyed because they’re not a beach side golf course or some tacky casino.
Keep his cheeto dust fingers away from BWCA.
Just 1 more Walmart and America will be perfect
The stock market is not static, fool. It’s about ready to explode!!
Once again, we find out most of the past presidents just obeyed decorum and norms… Did no one consider that a bad-faith president would just say, "uh…‘EMERGENCY’ ", then he’s allowed to bypass Congress and just do whatever the fuck he wants!?
This needs to be turned against him. Obviously through the courts would be ideal. But at least in terms of the media juxtaposing his emergency declarations with his golfing.
Also that the emergency has been created by him ergo not really an emergency
Hey, that’s emergency golfing to you, buddy!
Break in and plant trees all over the fairway and turn the green into a pond.
18 times.
On all his golf courses.
No, not against just him, against the entire party supporting him.
We went over this with bush 2 and decided the answer is basically yes. Otherwise it’d be letting the terrorists win
There are 3 powers here supposed to balance:
- the president
- the houses
- the supreme court
Guess who scored all of them?
Incidentally this is the reason the judiciary power in other democracies is self governed (e.g., judges elect their own supreme court) and parties in the judiciary are forbidden
But… well… here we are 🤷♂️
Afaik congress could stop him, revoking his “emergency tariff powers” and revoking the emergency itself. But they won’t. Like Trump, they only seek power.
Yeah, these Republicans are absolute enablers. It’s pathetic…
We need to start using the right words.
They aren’t just enablers.
They are traitors.
Fuck, some of that will be last remaining old growth, forever lost
That includes almost all remaining old growth forests. Almost all of the areas he chose are old growth forests. Here’s a map of all remaining old growth forests in the US for comparison.
I think I see some exploitation of fewer forestry service members now too.
how does Alaska have so little old growth forest?
I’ve been wondering the same thing ever since seeing the map.
I imagine it’s hard for forests to grow in such a climate
I’m guessing ‘old growth’ in this map means like 80 year forests or something. I’m extremely skeptical that this much forest was never logged.
No. You’d be surprised. Old growth specifically means forests where the trees are older than 200 years on average. If you include mature forests, which are defined as 80-200 years old on average, the amount of forest becomes much larger.
But also consider how much there used to be, and how much disappeared. The US was the first place in the world to really add forest protections. Theodore Roosevelt alone set aside over 150 million acres as national forests at the turn of the 20th century. We’re insanely lucky that happened. I’ve been lucky enough to have traveled to and seen national forests in almost every US state. It makes me die inside knowing they might get cut down now.
Hypothetically, would literal tree-hugging (i.e. chaining myself to a tree) be an effective method of protest and prevention? Would the loggers cut me down anyways? Just a random thought.
Depends on what you mean by “effective.” It might delay them for a few hours or a day. There’s a long history of this kind of thing, although it’s usually more effective to do a treesit rather than a lockdown for trees. You could do a lockdown on equipment like bulldozers/feller bunchers though. The Earth First! Direct Action Manual has a lot of info.
Be prepared to be literally tortured in various ways, including pepperspray placed directly in your eyes, pain compliance holds, or they just cut the chains/lockbox you’re in and if you get cut with it too bad.
Personally I’m not a big fan of get-arrested-on-purpose types of direct action, but it has its uses. I strongly recommend that if you’re going to do something like this you connect with a group that knows how to do it and you have a support crew, including jail/legal support.
what a fascinating read!
Is there a such thing as pepper spray resistant eyewear?
Sure, lab safety goggles will protect you from pepper spray in most instances. But what eye protection you’re wearing won’t matter. You’re chained to a tree. The cops can do literally anything they want to you, including ripping your safety glasses off and emptying a can of pepper spray directly in your eyes. See: the infamous case of the Pepper Spray 8
Deputies pepper sprayed Mike McCurdy (above) and Noel Tendick directly in the eyes at close range while they were locked together through the tracks of a Pacific Lumber bulldozer on an old-growth redwood logging site. The activists endured the torture and did not unlock. Deputies then safely cut them loose with a portable grinder, as they could have done without using pepper spray, and as they had done hundreds of times in previous years.
maybe flying too close to the sun here but don’t sacrifice yourself for your beliefs in a way that won’t make effective change.
there are other, more valuable targets if you’re willing to spend your life on a cause.
Trees have been saved by people camping in them.
That relies on the loggers fearing a murder charge. In Trump’s America, would a logger be charged with murder for “accidentally” killing a tree hugging protestor?
Treesitters have been killed by loggers before and didn’t face murder charges iirc. They are probably more worried about wrongful death suits.
Sure would be a shame if the equipment kept experiencing catastrophic failure.
They were defending themselves against domestic terrorists /s (but actually just cynicism)
There are groups already doing the work. Look them up!
For example, BARK Out! Is active around Mt Hood in Oregon.
You’re gonna get labeled a terrorist and probably shot
The way to go is in the monkey wrenching book (forgot the full name:
You take steel bars, and cut them to size
Then you remove a piece of bark
Drill a hole into the tree
Put the steel rod in
Glue the bark back on
Do it at eye level-ish, that way you’re not hurting the worker with a snapping chain, instead damaging the lumber mill. Bigger damage anyways
What do we use when they start checking the trees with metal detectors?
I don’t think cinder blocks would work as well
That’s actually addressed in the book as well, you can get hardened ceramic rods that work even better, they’re just a bit more expensive
Iron bars are the old fashioned way, the modern method is a granite or concrete rod, not quite as good as iron but it’ll still fuck up a saw good
If anything that’s time wasted having to check every tree. Makes their big tree harvesters slow way down
The Monkey Wrench Gang
“Ecodefense: A Field Guide to Monkeywrenching” was the name
Just spike the trees.
Bunch of unpatriotic freeloading trees and animals. About time we have a president that puts them in their place. They’re ripping us off!
“I think that I now understand what he is up to. He is plotting to become a Power. He Has a Mind of Metal and Wheels; and He Does Not Care For Growing Things.”
“Come, my friends. The Ents are going to war. It is likely that we go to our doom.”
I was just in a national park and thinking to myself “damn, this place has too many trees! We should really cut a bunch down to make room for a Wal-Mart.”
National parks? Don’t need them. I’ll get the same experience watching nature footage at an imax.
Guaranteed way to speed up climate change
Well it is an Emergency, we gotta hustle
Not happy with destroying our society anymore. Now they have to physically destroy our country.
This is what happens when you allow conservatives to have control.
I’d ask Americans to make better decisions going forward, but we all know that isn’t happening.
RIP.
Conservatives, as in, conserving our portfolios and self preservation.
guns
Or apparently tree spiking
2024 cost US 500 billion in hurricane costs. and how to you counter that, plant more trees not cut them down. he is the biggest clown in human history
Do you know why greece is so barren? Because in antiquity they chopped all the trees for their navy
