must be an apple thing lol i have never had this happen
Which brands do you say are longlasting?
idk basically any USB cable. It’s rare that they fail for me in general, though I have a couple that have given out, and I’ve seen this happen to other people, but I’ve never had it happen to me.
Perhaps anecdotal, but I try to avoid unplugging by pulling the wire whenever possible and I also try not to bend it near the connector if I’m using it while charging.
I’ve had it happen with a few Lenovo laptop chargers. Razer mice though, were especially bad at this 10 years ago. Haven’t owned a Razer product since then though, but I’d go through 2 cables per year because of this. Haven’t lost a single cable since changing to other brands though.
I think around 2016 is when Razer really went down the toilet. There was a time when they built good quality hardware, but they’re just enshittified garbage with a flashy hue cycle now.
They can. There are brands selling durable USB-C cables, I think they cost around 20 Euros each.
For Apple stuff, they will make it durable once their customer base stops being a cult.
The problem is that you can’t go just off of the price because there are shitty brands that will sell the crappy one that will break early for 20 Euros to fool people into thinking they’ll last.
The cables that degraded that way were because they used a more recyclable product, they moved away from it and it stopped being a problem.
That so many of the Apple frayed outside cables survived despite the outside fraying is funny …
Their cables are now braided by default.
The “hating apple” or better yet “tech tribalism” in general is the real cult
Funny, Apple mainstreamed tech tribalism. Remember when they were so so butthurt when android entered the scene, that their whole cult started calling them poor people’s phone? Their whole schtick was being an expensive status symbol? Suing samsung because their phone was a rectangle? Suing a pear brand logo because theirs was an apple. They had to go so low to green bubble android users to.make them seem like outcasts in group chats for teenagers? Tim Apple’s “Buy your mom an iPhone” because they didn’t want to support RCS?
You can “achsually” spin it however the fuck you want, Apple is THE tech tribalist cult, that other companies fawn over. Not the smart ones, the dumb and loyal ones who buy expensive shit no matter what.
Fuck all Big Tech. They’re only after monopolizing the market for data and profits.
Your comment so perfectly encapsulates what I’m talking about.
I use Apple products because I develop on a Unix system that has support from the manufacturer. That’s why I use Apple.
Nobody else provides that for me. I’d prefer to be using i3 on a Linux base but nobody provides that in a manner that ticks the boxes I need to tick for the requirements I provide.
It’s like you are wildly incorrect but having to join the tech fight
Glad to see someone else mention this. I feel crazy enjoying the hell out of using what is basically “linux + commercial software” while everyone else is just like “Apple bad, too expensive.” Meanwhile my apple laptop and phone were both cheaper than the competition… never let that get in the way of a good narrative, I guess.
That’s exactly what it is.
Planned obsolescence, but my iPhone 11 from 2019 still receives updates. Do any android devices from then still get new Android?
None of my cords that did the fraying ever frayed, I had one friend who’s cord frayed. But it was all over the internet.
It’s called othering when we make shit up about people to categorize them as worse, but since tech isn’t people our baser instincts are fine.
Do any android devices from then still get new Android?
Oneplus 5 released in 2017 is still getting official LineageOS updates. Oneplus One released in 2014 is also getting updates, albeit unofficial ones.
And this is just the brand I’m familiar with, there probably are even older phones kept alive by the community. This isn’t possible with Apple’s hostile ecosystem.
My question wasn’t about Lineage though. OnePlus using lineage officially and supporting it is kind of the exception that proves the rule.
I’m talking which manufacturers offer a comparable product that is supported for as long?
Apple gets shit on for this very thing but Google and Samsung and Motorola were the worst offenders in that regard. Samsung users out here with an phone that stopped getting updates a year later shitting on people with 5 generation old iPhones still being updated regularly, my point entirely is that much of the “this company sucks for X reason” in both directions is typically people hating rather than backed by real shit.
Some stuff is bad, but rarely is any of the hate as bad as people make it out to be. It’s tribalism.
We hate things more than we like them. It’s a pretty human trait.
You can use an Apple product without being in the cult, but the cult still exists.
Sure. But the cult of anti Apple is on display here in this thread and is wildly MORE pervasive.
Then again it’s largely only kids who give a fuck, the second I take my mom hat off and stop trying to temper extreme mindsets it all disappears for me to.
All the tech in your pocket looks fantastic from my house.
Yeah you can criticise Apple on many things, but definitely not in build quality and software support. They’re so far ahead of everyone else, it’s not even funny.
Their build quality is shit. I had a phone that I would throw into the air and let it land on concrete for funsies. That phone lasted me 5 years. It was a Motorola. The back was plastic, the front was either gorilla glass or plastic. Either way, I didn’t have a case on it, and it didn’t break.
If a phone needs a case, its because the build quality is absolute shit. Every phone should be able to be slammed onto the concrete without a case. It’s the gold standard of build quality.
Build quality has absolutely no ties with how resistant to abuse the product is ? That’s just a completely absurd opinion…
Build quality implies durability. If you needed to put a case on your car to protect it from normal abuse, you’d say the car was poorly made.
What a ridiculous statement… They are pioneers in planned obsolescence. They literally designed a laptop where all of the heat vented directly onto the vulnerable hinge until the screen eventually failed and an iPhone that couldn’t make phone calls until you bought an extra case for it.
I’m not saying they’re perfect, far from that, personally I despise their stupid marketing and clear cut decisions (the CD drive, the jack, etc.), the repairability is abysmal. They had big flukes and made stupid decisions, like fanless laptops, butterfly keyboards and such.
But an iPhone is supported for 10 years software wise, a MacBook is supported for 7 years. The build quality of pretty much all their products is also generally great with the occasional miss. Not many tech manufacturers come close. Maybe I’m mistaken and I’d be gladly proven wrong.
The “planned obsolescence” argument holds as much water as a sieve and always has.
It’s cope. Everyone seems to need to cope about why they got what they got and not the other thing. Nobody can just admit “I got the thing I wanted”
“Repairability” and they were the first ones to make batteries be glued so they can only be repaired by an Apple repair center. 😭
Yeah, that’s what I said?
The build quality is great, the repairability is shit. Both can be true.
Oh, sorry, I misread it lol. Thought you said that they were good quality and good repairability. My bad 😅
Edit: I now upvoted you, now that I better understood.
They are pioneers in planned obsolescence.
I have owned three laptops since 2004. Powerbook 2004-2014, Macbook Air 2014-2025, Macbook Air 2025-now. This doesn’t feel like planned obsolescence to me? This feels like computers that last way fuckin longer. but whatever. None of these laptops were more than about $800 either. I’m into apple because I’m cheap as hell, IDK man.
You’re literally parroting the same type of tech tribalism bullshit that I’m responding to.
They had a design defect. It happens.
They’ve never sold me a phone that explodes in my pocket though. I guess Samsung also planned that obsolescence?
It’s the “assigning intent” behind a thing that proves the tribalism.
For fucks sake just use the shit you want to use and let other people use the shit they want to use.
Samsung isn’t good either. Anything closed-sourced and privative is bad by definition.
Thats a idealistic and naive definition, imo.
You’ve summed up this whole site
This is just whataboutism. Fuck “tech tribalism” and fuck every tech company.
Same goes for Google and the others. They have a tribe or flock or cult. All the tech companies want that or have it to some degree. Though some are more obvious.
'* once the EU will make them
Exactly. My Aliexpress specials have lasted forever. Buying a “brand” is dumb.
You own the Apple cable and are responsible for the repairs, Apple sells replacements, so they’re built to die and require replacement quickly.
Back in the day, the phone company owned the phone and was responsible for the repairs, so they were built to last.
Planned obsolescence is one of the cornerstones of our economic order.
Pull on the connector instead of the cable and it’ll last 3x longer
Also stop resting it on the cord bend while using it in bed. The number of times I have seen this prevented by a 90° adapter is… at least 3.
While that might be right in some cases, these just had really bad plastic coverings. I had an htc cable made with the same stuff. Without using it just sitting the drawer, it now is cracked all over and the cover is falling apart. Mechanical stress probably would make it break faster, but these cables also just sucked.
Just from oxidation
Because I’d rather have the cable die than some super-ruggedised cable with the flexibility of a pencil break the port.
You can have both…
Superb, I can break both my phone and the cable at the same time /s
Though tbf I’ve got stock Apple cables which are years old. I don’t get how people do this.
I actually haven’t had a cable do this since I stopped buying apple cables. I usually will buy just whatever brand I find and they might stop working eventually, but rarely do they fray like those iPod ones used to.
But non-Apple cables are not officially supported, right? I think apple can’t guarantee that your iPhone works and charges well with an unlicensed cable. Also I don’t know if the Apple Repair Shop will accept a phone that has been charged with an unlicensed cable. But what do I know, I am an Android user
Car manufacturer can’t garuntee that the car will drive fine on a road not made by them.
What you said/quoted is a meaningless sentence that just reduces into “bad products are possible to make”
Lmao maybe if you don’t know what you’re talking about you just shouldn’t post it 🥰
I wanted to trigger some apple users, and it seems that they love me
It’s fun spreading lies?
Pretty interesting take.
You must be fun at parties
Because I don’t like when people lie?
You need to do a better job at being a troll. A good comeback needs to actually make sense, not be an overused cliche.
Maybe you’ll do better next time bud.
If you don’t like a joke then just move on and don’t waste your time. You are just beeing unnecessarily dramatic.
As long as they have the MFI certification they are officially supported. I’ve been using a non-MFI cable for a while now and it’s never been a problem, even with getting my battery replaced by Apple.
Did you know that the mfi certification cost like $10,000 and requires you to provide three prototypes to Apple that they are allowed to destroy, as well as your full schematics and the complete design of the product? Gee how do they come up with so many ideas…
You could of course try to skip that but then Apple will fence you off from access to some of their chipsets and protocols so your product will work less well than ones that capitulate.
Seriously fuck Apple
Oh I just stopped buying apple products altogether after I stopped using iPods. But yeah I have heard that before.
Better yet don’t buy apple products at all.
That’s because Apple’s cables are designed for aesthetics first and everything else second.
Just like all apple products
That old cord had lead in it. Newer regulations require different materials.
Also the plastic was made from cancer. Like pure 100% distilled cancer in plastic form.
Apple’s cables are the absolute worst I’ve ever owned. They always break.
This is because the plastic they originally used which was good for this kinda caused cancer, so they had to change to a new plastic for that fascist white they love… Only problem is the new plastic breaks easily.
“Fascist white”?
Apple likes things white… Much like…
Weird, for me the apple cables are usually the best I can get. But I’ve never had one of those plastic/silicone cables of theirs, just their braided USB-C ones. They have really good charging speeds and I have yet to break one of them.
People seem to forget how easily phone cords went bad. We had to jiggle them or hold them at weird angles to keep talking.
I don’t remember that at all… Was it before 90s?
I don’t think many of those types of phones were made/used in the 90’s.
I had one of those until mid 2000’s. I remember fidgeting with the curly umbilical cable thing while on the phone
Landlines of course were, what are you on about?
So…. Look at the picture. See the phone? THOSE WEREN’T MADE IN THE 90’s.
Oh you only meant Western Electric Model 2500? Right…
You also bend, move, carry, unplug/replug, use a charge cable a lot more than we did land line phones.
… Tell me how young you are without telling me how young you are.
Maybe their family really didn’t use it that often. Even in the 90s, I don’t think my family used the landline phone more than once a day on average. I think that would have only been different in the early 80s and before due to not having answering machines to filter the incoming calls down to those we cared about.
Yeah, but I never saw anyone talk on the phone without also fiddling with the cord with their fingers (often, trying to undo those weird half-twist pairs that would form). Or at least not until cordless phones started getting popular.
Profit
More shit inside that shouldn’t be bent maybe?
its braided copper covered in plastic insulation, it’s just that apple cables are garbage
My steam deck cables, I could climb mountains with them
Those phone cables should be compatible as USB charging cables with some kind of adapter. Gives me an idea
Because you want it to fit in a small pocket, not take half the space in your backpack.
You can buy a coiled USB-C cable, I have a couple, they’re pretty sweet. A company called Cable Matters makes them, they generally make quality stuff
The idea of a spring plus the poor retention of USB-C just doesn’t seem like a good idea to me. Seems like these would just be a lot of cable coiled up to make a short cable.
Finally a counter-example to enshittification.
That’s actually a more shitty cable. The USB spec gives a maximum cable length based on when wire length will start to pick up more interference and impact data rates.
Basically this is a curly cable that can’t be as long as it otherwise would, and if you try it’s going to actively try to pull itself out of the device because it’s a spring.Wouldn’t they still fray near the end?
I’ve bought some good quality ones of these and because the coil pulls on the connection it often causes a kink failure near the connector.
I like guitar cables that coil like this, they don’t get tangled easily
