The very bad news is, Nvidia says turning DLSS 5 on will currently reduce performance by 50-60%. And that’s across the board—no matter the game.

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    25 days ago

    i miss when GPUs just rendered the game, and that was all.

    None of this upscaling, AI graphics altering bullshit that is there ultimately to distract from the impotent promises of 4k gaming, which is unnecessarily ridiculous to begin with.

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        25 days ago

        And I mean you bought the 4k monitor, so for it not to be a good choice for gaming needs to be addressed. Can’t have that money go to waste. Not your fault you fell for the marketing again.

        At least movies will look good on it.

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          25 days ago

          Pretty L sarcastic take tbh. I work on my pc, I also have 3 screens at my pc, 4k is invaluable as I can get so much more done more easily when I don’t spend my time scrolling through code. Working on anything below 1440 feels cramped.

          I guess movies could look good, I wouldn’t know tho.

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            25 days ago

            Cool, yet my point on gaming still stands. Most places I installed screens at had us (mostly done by the roll up software) turn the res down (so people can read it). You can use 4k I am sure, knock yourself out, but we are in crazy land where your need to have 4k has left us all in a nightmare of shit performance and fake frames.

            “Such a L take” is funny from the people with more money then sense who always seem to revert to a “get gud” defense when confronted with the idea that maybe spending more is not always a good idea.

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              25 days ago

              Eh, okay dude, sure thing, I usually have my browser set by default to 80% zoom on lower res screens and my font is quite small on the 4k, I also disable any kind of scaling.

              Believe it or not, not everyone sees the world like you do.

              It sounds like you made up your mind though, which is cool for you I guess.

              I appreciate advances in tech, especially stuff like display tech, you kind of remind me of my dad the time he told us we’d never need a hard drive bigger than 2gb, lol.

              I’m just gonna go be gud over here, you do you over there…

              I’ll also add that anti aliasing is not as important nowadays because realistically, it was a way to hide lower resolutions by smoothing edges, now edges can be smooth at native resolutions without it. (there’s nuance to that ofc) I’m not sure if you hated AA too.

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                24 days ago

                You have literally disabled the feature that makes fonts look correct on 4k and further shrunk the text by setting zoom to 80%. It’s not really a matter of opinion you are just wrong.

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                    21 days ago

                    Correct is UI elements including text graphics and controls displaying somewhere in the expected range for human use. Literally impossible on 180+ DPI machines without scaling

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      4k is only ridiculous if you play games seated at a desk. Videogames are still ultimately a livingroom toy at their heart, and there are people who’ve graduated from game consoles to PCs and still want to play on the couch. That means distance from your TV, which means the TV has to be pretty large. Lower resolutions on a TV that size do not look good.

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        Ummmm 4k is way less important at couch distance compared to desk distance. Most of us don’t have TVs that occupy the same field of view from the couch as a monitor does at the desk. For example I have a 32 inch monitor at my desk 1.5 feet away and a 65 inch TV about 10 feet away. Sure the TV has 4x the viewing area but my viewing distance is more than 4x so the picture is not as crisp.

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          24 days ago

          If you were watching a movie you might be right, but that won’t compensate enough for how low that pixel density is on that size of a TV on a video game. The subpixel aliasing will be notably worse on the TV.

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        25 days ago

        The relationship between screen size and distance to viewer decides at what resolution you won’t be able to notice more detail at a higher resolution. 4K on a desktop monitor can make the same amount of sense (or not) as on a TV (or phone, or any other device with a display really).

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          24 days ago

          That’s not true at all. 1080p on an appropriately large tv at a proper viewing distance will be far worse as those pixels are stretched out. The subpixel aliasing on that would be absolutely brutal.

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            Either I’m greatly misunderstanding you, or you have that completely backwards. The further you are from a screen the smaller the pixels are in your field of view, and the less jagged the image will look. If you are closer to your screen the easier it is to see individual pixels, thus they need to be smaller to get a smoother image.

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              You’re thinking of spatial aliasing, which can be improved by sitting further away from the screen. The problem here is temporal aliasing, which has more to do with the resolution and size of the display, and is not improved by sitting further away.

              Temporal aliasing gets worse the larger individual pixels are and the lower the pixel density is, which is why it will more negatively affect the TV viewer even if they appropriately match TV size and distance.

              And then you also have to consider the fact that they don’t make 1080p or 1440p for that matter TVs at the size you’d need to view from the average livingroom distance. So playing a game at 1080P means your TV has to scale that 1080p across its native resolution which will result in a blurry picture.

              Here’s a video that discusses the issue

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        Which is bull, because we’ve been playing games from our couches for like 40 years and there were beautiful, amazing, wonderful graphics long before the 4k propaganda.