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    Me a few weeks ago: Oof, the Steam Machine is a tough sell.

    Me this week: Lol, Sony is going to lose customers to Valve.

    Windows 11 in the headline is missing what is happening right now. Steam OS being generally available very well might change the landscape of living room gaming. Playstation is about to be reduced to a peripherals brand.

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      Right? That’s how bad it is. Although how that some major companies are having Linux distros as default installs, M$ it’s kinda freaking out a little. It’s like, how little can we do to make people happy and still steal their info.

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      Bazzite (which is essentially SteamOS, but on a Fedora, instead of Arch [btw], base) works just fine – excepting Big Picture / Console Mode, which is still buggy – for both Intel and Nvidia.

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      1. Say “what do you mean I can’t play any of the most popular games that me and all my friends play?!”
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          Just try and sell Linux gaming to people when GTA6 is coming out for PC and Linux can’t play it. Good luck.

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            GTA 5 runs perfectly on Linux out of the box. So do all AAA releases. What are you basing your assumptions that GTA 6 won’t work on? Have you even played games on Linux in the last 6 months?

            Unless you’re talking about GTA 6 Online, your comment makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. And if you do in fact mean GTA 6 Online - again, go to therapy and cure your addiction to predatory money extractors.

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              Telling people to stop playing the games they want to play because you don’t like them sure is something.

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      I mean, Valve doesn’t sell games on physical media in the Steam Store either that I’m aware.

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          I’m not 100% sure that it’s the physical media its self that’s the issue, it more so that the digital versions require verification from a server to be playable.

          Xbox and PlayStation can shut the server down and your digital game becomes useless.

          Steam I think this might be a issue, but I don’t remember hearing this happening yet.

          GOG you buy the game and get all the files and executables, so if GOG goes out of business your game still run locally.

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            I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure Valve has said if they / Steam go out of business that there would be a window for you to download all your games DRM-free.

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    These articles feel like cope. Most people aren’t as invested in physical media as our small corner of the internet. I doubt this decision will hurt Sony, and Microsoft and Nintendo will probably follow suit soon enough.

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      It’s interesting, cause i just saw them mention this subject about gamers being mad at playstation in the national news in my country, so if that’s anything to go by maybe it’s causing more of a stink than we think.

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        It’s just a vocal minority. Every single sales metric available to us and publishers says physical is dead.

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          That’s somewhat misleading. You can’t reduce physical media availability then point at it saying “look people aren’t buying it” because they don’t have access to it in the first place, by design.

          I mean I’m sure since digital media has become mainstream there’s a shift, but it was a planned force shift to increase profits.

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    The tiny improvements windows have been doing were only because they saw SteamOS coming.

    They still keep doing nasty stuff under the hood that they won’t let you turn off in home editions.

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      Well you can actually own your games on pc even if they’re digital. Games don’t have to be physical to be able to own them, but on consoles physical is the only way to own, which is why it’s considered important on those platforms. If consoles as a digital platform were as free as pc, it wouldn’t be as big an issue.

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        Sure, if you only buy gog, in which case you don’t own any AA or bigger games from the last decade or 3. You don’t own your steam games.

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          Yeah i know, but at least the option is there, showing that it’s possible. And with steam games you can always crack them, or just go the piracy route.

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    Aside from Nintendo, how often to today’s games actually fit on physical media and not require downloading/patching to play?

    Actually asking, I don’t have any consoles.

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      Well they don’t always, but you can just use multiple discs in that case. I think final fantasy has done this as well as a recent example, but this has already been done since the days of games still being on CD.

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        It’s significantly more expensive than simply having the rest be downloaded via an update.

        With developers going under left right and centre, putting an even higher cost on their production is a death sentence.

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          That’s not because of the discs lol. If you afford to spend 300 million on slop like concord, you can print discs. And a franchise like gta 6 can definitely afford them.

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            It is because of discs, actually. Every single extra dollar it costs to manufacture them is like 5% of the revenue from the sale of the game that the publisher loses out on. That’s huge.

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                  I don’t see why not, they could before couldn’t they? Even if you want to stick to the cost argument, i don’t have to care about that, cause i need to look out for myself as a consumer. If they can’t provide a way for me to own the game, i’ll simply take my business elsewhere. There’s a reason i opted to buy a disc edition ps5 instead of a digital edition, because i didn’t want to be locked to their storefront. That hasn’t changed one generation later, so if that’s the only option i’m just not going to buy it. Also, you claim physical is dead, but the situation is more nuanced when you look at the sales on a per game basis. There are definitely a lot of games that sell more digitally, but there are also first party titles like rift apart that have a 75%/25% physical/digital ratio. I think they’re definitely taking a risk alienating those first party customers by going digital only, but we’ll see what happens i guess.