“You can’t handle the truth!”
.ml bans are a badge of honor. Welcome.
Exactly you take pride in that shit
i don’t really take pride in not being a raving lunatic, but y’know what? time are hard and we all need a pick-me-up, so maybe i should start.
why can’t every day can be a good day if i just don’t excuse a genocide?
I have a badge!
I have so many badges
Welcome to the club of normal people.
The misconception is with what these pages are. They are not public forums. They are the personally dictated and directed blog of the moderators, they allow the public to contribute but have final say on publishing.
Once you realize these are fat sweaty kids blogs it makes sense that you would get banned for trying to have a discussion instead of perpetuating whatever world view they are trying to spew.
Yup. Every sub I’ve visited moderated by a .ml user was effectively just their own personal soap box jerk off space.
Getting banned used to be a badge of shame meaning you were a bigot or troll.
Now it just means the mods don’t like your opinion.
Two cars crash… Bam!. The police shows up. Not to help either driver. They show up to get the accident cleared so Jeff Bezos can keep selling and shipping shit on Amazon.
“You can’t handle the truth!”
Adrian Zenz, Rushan Abbas, and the USAGM are the furthest thing from the truth.
It’s never too late to develop some actual media literacy instead of parroting imperial core talking points.
It’s never too late to develop some actual media literacy instead of parroting imperial core talking points.
Using your own voice, say this into a recording device, then play it back and see if you can understand how .ml users sound to the rest of us.
Also understand that it isn’t really .ml user’s proclivity for conspiracy theories and pretty…uhhh…interesting political opinions that have earned them the reputation they have. It’s their behavior. It’s the way they treat others. It’s the censoring of others on their instance. It’s their refusal to accept anyone else’s more moderate views.
Like I said. You guys have earned your reputation.
It’s the censoring of others on their instance.
Are you under the impression your instance isn’t doing the same thing?
reddit.world has its own reputation
Parroting imperial core talking points? I dig a little in your post history and you’re in there with “Ukrainians are nazis” and “Western media” screenshots without attributions?
The Wikipedia page on the genocide of the Uighurs has 419 citations and yet you deny it.
Cry harder, little bitch.
Since you asked so nicely about that meme, here are the links you asked for.
- https://www.timesofisrael.com/ukraine-celebrates-nazi-collaborator-bans-book-critical-of-pogroms-leader/
- https://eurasianet.org/ukraine-far-right-fighters-from-europe-fight-for-ukraine
- https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/ukraine-designates-national-holiday-for-nazi-collaborator/
- https://theweek.com/92041/britons-join-neo-nazi-militia-in-ukraine
- https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/ukraine-s-got-a-real-problem-with-far-right-violence-and-no-rt-didn-t-write-this-headline/
- https://www.timesofisrael.com/nazi-symbols-salutes-on-display-at-ukrainian-nationalist-march/
- https://www.mintpressnews.com/fbi-neo-nazi-militia-trained-by-us-military-in-ukraine-now-training-us-white-supremacists/251687/
- https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/
- https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds-march-in-ukraine-in-annual-tribute-to-nazi-collaborator/
- https://www.bellingcat.com/news/europe/2019/08/09/yes-its-still-ok-to-call-ukraines-c14-neo-nazi/
- https://archive.khpg.org/en/1524441220
- https://www.channel4.com/news/svoboda-ministers-ukraine-new-government-far-right
- https://www.defenddemocracy.press/violent-anti-semitism-is-gripping-ukraine-and-the-government-is-standing-idly-by-2/
- https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28329329
- https://freedomhouse.org/report/special-report/2020/new-eurasian-far-right-rising
- https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-far-right-menace-radical-militants-ultranationalists/
- https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30134421
- https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/article/far-right-extremists-in-ukrainian-military-bragged-about-canadian-training-report-says/
- https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955
- https://archive.khpg.org/en/1528485728
- https://www.dw.com/en/new-glory-to-ukraine-army-chant-invokes-nationalist-past/a-45215538
- https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/german-tv-shows-nazi-symbols-helmets-ukraine-soldiers-n198961
- https://www.illiberalism.org/far-right-group-made-its-home-in-ukraines-major-western-military-training-hub/
- https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2019/02/15/defend-the-white-race-american-extremists-being-co-opted-by-ukraines-far-right/
I checked the two links toward BBC articles:
One says children are fighting both sides (with Ukrain for some, for Russia for some others). It is terrible, but doesn’t make a point favorable to any of the sides.
The other one claims that about 5% of ukrainian fighters are far-rightists ; which is few given the score of far-right in Europe, but doesn’t make the country a fascist one. Actually, the article you give as source denies this russian claim against Ukrain.
I don’t know which of the other links support your view, this two ones don’t. Also, I don’t know the other websites you use as sources, so I can’t guess if they are reliable. I am too lazy to check them all, which of your links seems the most relevant to you?
There are shorter and easier ways to make sure everyone knows that your complete lack of critical thinking skills has led to you outsourcing all thinking to billionaire owned media.
“Only I can critically think.” - Every .ml User
“ChatGPT explain why North Korea is actually a for real and good socialist state and not a despotic dictatorship and make sure to blame US sanctions!”
No, lots of people can.
People who accept the narrative from the capitalist cultural hegemony generally don’t though, so whether they actually cannot not doesn’t really matter.
I have an open mind. Please, go ahead and explain why it’s okay for China to commit crimes against humanity? Why is it okay for a government to oppress any group of human beings for any reason?
Please, don’t just get mad and run away. I want to hear you out, because my mind simply cannot comprehend how you can justify this. Help me understand your mindset without resorting to whataboitism.
The floor is yours.
Please, go ahead and explain why it’s okay for China to commit crimes against humanity? Why is it okay for a government to oppress any group of human beings for any reason?
First you cite a source for that allegation that doesn’t, if you track back to its original source, come from ETIC or a similar separatist/terrorist organization, a delusional Christian Nationalist in Austria who believes God wants him to destroy communism and calls himself an expert on China despite not being able to speak or read any Chinese, or a CIA funded NGO with a history of backing regime change operations.
While you’re at it you can come up with a good explanation why every Muslim country that’s investigated the matter has determined China is not committing crimes against humanity against a Muslim population, but is doing exactly what they said, operating a highly successful anti extremism program that’s drastically reduced Wahabbist terrorism in the space of a generation, and created education and employment opportunities all across the region.
Then you can explain Col Lawrence Wilkerson’s 2018 address to the Ron Paul Institute, and how that doesn’t make absolutely any accusations against China with respect to Xinjiang incredibly suspicious. Also how China has managed to perform the first genocide in history without a commensurate refugee crisis, or how China is so much better at infosec than Isntreal that there aren’t any videos of the supposed genocide occurring. I mean, we’ve seen what a live-streamwd genocide looks like in real time, why is the best evidence of China’s supposed crimes a bunch of grainy photos that have been persuasively debunked?
If you establish that China is actually doing crimes against humanity we can talk about it. But starting from a position of “western media narratives don’t need evidence” is proof of exactly the kind of critical thinking failure (or lack of critical thinking in the first place) that I was talking about.
First you cite a source for that allegation that doesn’t, if you track back to its original source, come from ETIC or a similar separatist/terrorist organization, a delusional Christian Nationalist in Austria who believes God wants him to destroy communism and calls himself an expert on China despite not being able to speak or read any Chinese, or a CIA funded NGO with a history of backing regime change operations.
Prove that, all of what you just said for every source on the uyghur genocide wiki page. I’ll wait.
No,nthats not how that works. I’ve said every one of them is citing one of those primary sources. Now you either pull up one that isn’t or concede the point. You’re the one making wild accusations of human rights abuses. Why can’t you find a single primary source that isn’t spurious western bullshit?
Wildly corroborated accusations. Fuck off genocide apologist.
Corroborated by the same three untrustworthy primary sources and amplified by billionaire owned media. Fuck off Imperialism apologist.
Article a cited as a source for article b which is cited as a source for article c which is cited by article a and so on. That counts as proof somehow.
And yet you’ll gobble up RT agitprop like it’s fuckin candy. You people are clowns. Like the fuckin losers who were libertarians in high school and never learned that it’s a fuckin joke ideology for dumb privileged kids. You’re certainly intellectually on the same level.
Oh it’s another one of these. For as long as you’re on .ml, China, Russia and North Korea are incapable of doing any wrong.
I can see giving China the benefit of the doubt, but giving it to Russia and North Korea is particularly egregious.
.ml is pretty explicit on their “about us” page that they have a specific political orientation and will censor dissenting opinions.
Now you have learned. Plenty of other instances that aren’t as heavily censored.
It boils down to “this is a choir that only preaches to itself. Facts aren’t allowed here. And will be removed if we don’t like it.”
Choirs don’t preach, the metaphor sort of falls apart like that. Maybe “A church that only preaches to its own choir” would be better.
That’s how fucking stupid they are. Get it now?
I got what you were saying, I was just giving a better way to play off the “preaching to the choir” idiom.
But then it wouldn’t have illustrated their ignorance.
It would’ve.
It’s okay. You didn’t get the joke.
because you’re a dumb removed cry harder
Why do you people deny China’s crimes against humanity? Why do you just get mad and refuse to explain why you’re okay with genocide? Don’t just point fingers and go “bUt AmErIcA…”; rub two brain cells together and give a real answer.
Please, I’m begging you, think critically, and then reply.
you’re a joke.
Nothing happened to uyghurs.
Like always it’s the US cowards who caused trouble by supporting islamic terrorists who blew up planes, attacked busses or stabbed people. Of course your dumb ass never heard of that.
Here’s an article from your own regime press
So these vile headchopping terrorists got put in jail.
Oh no, China has jails?
Authoritarian regeeem camp, gommunizam bad, genocide!
You sound like some zionist, same idiotic lies and excuses.
You wouldn’t know what critical thinking is if it hit you in your gullible american propagandized little headChina is just another imperialist engaging in Muslim panic. The fact that .ml can’t see through the propaganda speaks volumes to their inability to interpret reality.
China is just another imperialist engaging in Muslim panic.
There were Salafi-jihadi terrorist attacks in the 2000s–2010s, which Western media reported on at the time. What they of course didn’t report on was that the terrorists were backed by the US, UK, and Israel in a failed attempt at Balkanizing China.
First, let us verify that Muslims have been demonized in China.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia_in_China
Please look up the Strike Hard Campaign
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strike_Hard_Campaign_Against_Violent_Terrorism
The amount of money and personnel poured into this project definitely indicates a panic much like the US engaged in. In some ways what China did is far more extreme than just infiltrateling some mosques like the Americans did. What the US did that China didn’t do is the bombing of civilians in the Middle East. So while China went more extreme within its border the US is just straight up terrorizing foreigners in the name of stopping terror.
Saying that the US, UK, and Israel created the terrorists is pretty poor propaganda considering even the Chinese government admits that East Turkestan Islamic Movement was responsible. This organization has been mostly funded by other terrorist organizations.
There is a conspiracy here though with elements of the US covertly bankrolling Osama Bin Laden until they turned on each other. So there is some truth to the propaganda
This organization has been mostly funded by other terrorist organizations.
And who do you suppose funded those terrorist organizations? Western powers have been funding these destabilizing organizations going all the way back to at least bin Laden, and at least as recently as the “moderate rebels” who toppled Syria two years ago and the failed Iranian coup this January. It’s their favorite tool in their Eurasian toolkit.
I am very familiar with the propaganda you use. It is very common on .ml
I study propaganda so I don’t agree with you completely. There are some truths in what you say but there is also disinformation.
Just so we are clear, there is currently an unspoken alliance between Russia, USA, and China. China uses three times the oil it produces. The rich are getting richer and fascism is growing. I see what is happening, you seem stuck in a bygone era.
China just became the world’s fourth largest arms producer selling billions in weapons that have been killing civilians on both sides in Africa. China has produced more billionaires than any other country for the third straight year in a row and shows zero signs of slowing down.
Honestly though there is just no catching up to what the US has done. I personally believe that the US has already killed close to a billion people indirectly. You could lay such an incredible amount of blame on them it isn’t funny. So there is definitely a truth to your propaganda.
It is okay, we likely agree on a lot of other things.
So you’re just going to plug your ears, close your eyes, and pretend that all authoritarian powers don’t commit atrocities. Why am I not surprised? Typical tankie…
Lol.
It’s not often you get to see someone prove someone else’s point so succinctly.
A perfect representation of .ml
Goodness, one might take the comment as a representation of the sort of discourse available over on .ml.
It absolutely is representative of the kind of discourse one can expect of one leads with repeatedly debunked Liberal bullshit. Even the US propaganda factory has backed off the “China is doing a genocide in Xinjiang” bullshit, because it’s so laughably, obviously, and provably untrue that it was backfiring.
Search up the video of Col Lawrence Wilkerson addressing the Ron Paul Institute in 2018, you’ll see exactly where the idea came from and why it was pushed as a narrative. And then if you move on from there and assume that every other narrative you’ve heard about a US geopolitical adversary is equally bullshit until you see hard evidence to the contrary you’ll be much wiser, but the people who stopped reading back when I said China isn’t doing a genocide will start calling you a Tankie when you question whatever the current crop of bullshit is.
Didn’t read. Don’t care. You’re demonstrating exactly why people make fun of ML.
You’re the perfect liberal
And you’re demonstrating exactly why we don’t care. Because those people’s opinions are worth less than used toilet paper.
You’re insecure. /out
lemmy.ml is filled with people who sort the instance by new comments and hit the F5 button nonstop. It’s why there is such quick and violent hate the moment you do not pay attention to where you are in All and make a random, unimportant comment.
when I first got on lemmy, I went to .ml since that is where the devs were. I figured that it would be nice to be on the most updated instance. I didn’t know what ML was. I lasted very little time before running away. It’s shocking how insecure and angry people are there.
I was on Lemmy for about a month before I figured out the whole .ml thing. I’m honestly surprised it took that long.
It can take time to note when someone has a personality defect.
Same. For my first month here I thought tankies were MAGA. To the untrained eye, it can be easy to confuse the two, until you look again. They’re just as ignorant and dumb.
To the untrained eye indeed. Horseshoe theory is the go to for anyone too lazy to try to actually learn anything about history or politics that’s not drip fed by their corporate overlords.
I think there’s a lot to be said for critiquing the flaws of our democracy, but doing so by adhering yourself to even worse authoritarian types is wild to me.
They are virtually the same when it comes to how loathsome they are. The biggest difference is one of them has the strength of conviction to stand on their ignorance and commit to it, the other just likes to play pretend on the internet.
Remarkably how accurately you describe yourself.
Ameriremoved blue MAGA selfrightious hypocrites supporting their imperialist cancer state as long as they’re not bothered in their banana republic.
While at least red MAGAts proudly defend their evils.Giving MAGA credit for being anything but completely and utterly braindead is a wild take. Good job losing what was left of the tiny credibility you had.
lemmy.ml is filled with people who sort the instance by new comments and hit the F5 button nonstop.
Agreed. They’re as big of snowflakes as zionists, except they’re red fascists
.ml is Lemmy’s snowflake instance.
I get that some people just start out there as they enter the Lemmiverse and aren’t part of the stereotype, but clearly so many .ml users are snowflake troll braindead NPCs that it’s become a pattern that can’t be ignored and that we’re pretty much all aware of at this point.
Just remember, everything you don’t like is a CIA psyop
These are the people that downvote that shithole being called out. It helps to point out the .mls that have .world accounts.
Most of the active ones do and use them for sock puppet brigades to make their batshit takes look popular.
Yep. I see a lot of the same accounts brigading posts and comments. Most mods/admins won’t bother doing the work necessary to weed out these assholes.
Lemmy mods make reddit mods seem reasonable sometimes.
They’re all the same. Inside and out.
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