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In the land of the fee they would be using high caliber machine guns right now. Mowing down anything that moved.
In the land of the free they would lick the boot and do nothing
Sad to see innocent businesses getting destroyed. Sad to see schools not being modernized as per request of students and protesters. Sad to see government not doing due diligence to listen to their people, especially children.
Happy to see people protesting not only for 5 hours. Happy to see repercussions of not being heard. Happy to see that France shows the whole world how one should protest.
Which innocent business got destroyed? I’m not doubting some did, but I hear that narrative during every protest, and I have seen them smashing Louis Vuitton and other corps windows but leaving local businesses untouched. That’s how it’s usually been where I’m at when this stuff happens, a business seen as supporting the police or CVS/Target etc got attacked but the local store next door run by cooler people was untouched even without boarded windows in 2020.
This is the only country where police probably really fear for their lives (not talking about the bullshit us police spew to get themselves out of trouble when they kill someone).
They should. For what I’ve seen in the news cycle, protests started peacefully then the police started crippling children. I mean, a 14 year old lost an arm to police brutality. That’s when the rest of the country raised up in arms and started attacking the cops and rioting. So far all political statements, starting with Macron, have only called to prosecute children for property damage calling them “extreme left violence”. While the cops maiming children, who were just asking for more teachers with fair pay, are being protected.
ACAB
Frustration leads to chaos. The French are very frustrated at the moment.
gee, i wonder why? definitely not the government’s fault…
We have much to learn from the French.
Like the Police, a few “bad apples” will show themselves but, this is people protesting that schools and education in France are underfunded, dilapidated and children do not have materials to learn while they are in cold, drafty classrooms with leaking roofs. I see an increase in funding for schools and education in France’s very near future. There is a a good reason why the retirement age in France was not raised even after the government announced that the age of retirement / pension entitlement would be raised. Anyone calling this rioting is a class traitor or a shill.
French education been underfunded since like Chirac. it’s kinda impressive how it came to this.
The big problem France has, is that they are broke and since apparently no country in the world is willing to tax major coorperations and barely tax billionaires it will be very difficult to keep low retirement ages or bring all the schools in France up to reasonable standards.
look at the amazing no kings protests in the US where people danced and sang their way into a dictatorship.
Threaten capital.
Occupy Wall Street enters chat.
i say we need to start thinking bigger. transport. electricity. water. hit the system where it hurts
And then finally do nothing. these people are doing you are thinking.
Are you in the US? You can get from any point of France to the capital relatively quick through driving or transit. People in the US do stuff but it’s tough to have numbers in the streets like this when we are so spread out and the police will shoot you on the way.
these guys are also taking a beating in Paris. I’m just saying that there is a massive gap between the American perception of themselves and the reality.
hit ordinary people where it hurts?
Not saying we should limit those essentials, but you do mention a phenomena that we should be aware of, and that’s that any damage to economics at any level tends to have a ripple effect, whereby normal people wind up feeling the pain in some form. Could be as mundane as layoffs from “cost cutting,” in response to the need for more security, or loss of assets, or anything really.
I used to look up to France for their ability to come together and rebel again against the unjust.
Can someone tell me what they’re doing over there?
a combination of external factors beyond the governmental control, the aftermath of short-sighted energy policies, the aftermath of even shorter-sighted deprioritization of public education, cost of living crisis on top of that and heavily biased fiscal policies on top of that and some good old government corruption as cherry on top.
Coming together and rebelling against the unjust.
To boil it down, billionaires stealing all the money.
Lmao Nah, at this point they’re just wrecking shit for the fun of it
Wow so deep
Please keep sharing your expertise
How about you explain hooliganism, since your so fucking deep
Ah, yes. I remember y’all in the comments of the George Floyd protest live-streams.
Maybe some of them are enjoying it, but it’s not a daily occurrence outside of protests, and it the protest is legitimate. Their enjoyment is not the reason for wrecking shit.
I’m not saying that it’s not happening. But from my comfortable viewing point it looks like Senseless violence. But my entire country looks like that from the right point of view
Not putting up with bullshit, that’s what they’re doing.
By looting?
This is always a disingenuous argument against protesting. There will always be opportunistic criminals that take advantage of these situations. It’s doesn’t take away the fact that protest and a national strike are the only actual power people have against the ruling class.
I’m not worried about Walmart losing money on looted TVs when cooperations are part of the problem and are run by the ruling class. If it’s a small business, hope your shits insured.
The only problem that most often it is the smaller stores that get looted because they can not afford the security measures of the large coorporations.
Is that true though? Do you have data on that? That’s not what I’ve seen. They looted Louis Vuitton, is that a small local store?
The only problem is that most often these responses are made up.
I would love to read statistics about this. Do you have any pointer I can read?
Criminal gangs do tend to take advantage of these situations and use it as cover. Same thing happened during the London riots.
Most protests was people walking, being happy, singing and talking. What everyone is talking i that 10% shit happening.
Please, be aware that most of the time people are peaceful. That what everyone have to stick in their brain.
Anyone who remembers the George Floyd protests remembers that being the case then, too.
The NYPD funneled the peaceful protesters into one intersection and then attacked.
And French police is doing the same. They even have an official name for barricading. They trap a group of peaceful protestors into an alley, then send a provocateur dressed as a civilian to start violence. They use the violence as an excuse to detain and injure everyone trapped inside the barricade. When the battle breaks out, they use that to further repress the peaceful protestors.
It’s a worldwide established practice by all police forces.
That’s daytime protests
Lock all these fucking criminals up
Pinochet like it
I think they tried, but they failed to disable the criminal’s vehicles with what they had on hand.
Vive la Révolution
1 - the French protests will not end well. 2 - US protests would end even worse 3 - no kings is mostly old boomers reliving their youth. The majority of you get people there are dragged by their parents or grandparents. It is also a very small percentage of people who support no kings 4 - I do have to congratulate the No Kings people, there aren’t currently any in the US. So good job.
I’m a do-nothin’ lil bitch and I’m smug about it
We get it, Vlad.
Ukraine needs to cloud burst a few more yandex data centers
We all know American cops are fucking pigs and may kill you just because, we’ve seen the videos. We also saw footage of one guy taking care of the CEO of not a minor healthcare insurance company, with a printed gun, iirc. Shit is crazy, and that’s precisely why people must do something else than well-behaved protests. Nonviolent protests can be way more effective if planned correctly. Think about the Hormuz blockade, it’s not a bloodbath there, but it is hell for the USA allies. Cops aren’t the problem, you do not need to literally fight them to change shit.
The pretty thing of this video is that people is sending a clear message to the State, and probably, the government of France will change its stances.
Yeah cops are literally the problem. Their “job” is to protect the system and the status quo and the interests of the rich and powerful
Bad ass I must give them my technology of revolutionaries and show them the marketplace of disruption
God I hate how much news is just not shown here in the U.S… This and the recent No King protests are really only found in alternative places. I keep trying to explaining that marching isn’t enough, that it doesn’t generate enough fear/anxiety to make them want to change.
That previous “peaceful” protests like MLK’s had targeted strategies that disrupted life on purpose. And still had Malcolm X and the Black Panthers as the muscle of the movement.
We’re just not doing enough, and allies that are willing are just too far apart distance wise to properly coordinate without getting caught. And random acts of violence can be useful, but only if they are actually shocking enough and have follow up. Luigi enacted a small amount of change for a short amount of time. Companies were denying less for a solid year afterwards. The problem is that there wasn’t enough follow up. The violence wasn’t coordinated enough, or organized with a wider group so they could continue to lay on the fear.
We’re just too passive, too domesticated, and lack the will to properly organize. The only good news is Trump is making these points more salient as time goes on. Especially with his talk of interference, and using the national guard for voter intimidation. I believe the mid terms will be a breakpoint for many depending on how they go. Or I hope it will anyway, as nothing else has been enough so far.
Dude you are so wrong. The point of the no kings protest is to organize people and encourage them to vote early for the election. It isn’t supposed to be a disruptive protest.
Maybe try getting off your ass and actually doing something instead of agitating for violence on lemmy like a terminally online weirdo.
One of is certainly terminally online, but it’s not me. Take your projection and fuck off. I’ve already lost family members to the Concentration Camps, so kindly take your privilege elsewhere and try being useful for once.
my gut says people are avoiding giving trump the excuse of shutting down elections before midterms
after midterms my theory is things are gunna get ugly and all the people who want a show are gunna get one
I have to agree. The people I’ve organized with are also waiting to see how mid terms shake out.
Organized what? baking cookies and waltzing around downtown?
Guys, the blue pedo fascists might win, let’s not even do that walking downtown with gumption thing until after we know for a fact who our kings are. If it’s the guys we like, we can forget about the fact that we are getting raked over the coals by billionaires. Our walking cookiethons won’t be needed.
Same. Go out and vote and get ready for violence from the fascist dipshits.
Police learning that they’re outnumbered and can’t dig it.
Love to see it!
It is better when they are concerned about beating the shit out of you. They are not soft when people is soft.
