Guess he’s okay with the UBI future. He’ll be paying all of us.
The problem is he should, but he definitely won’t.
I don’t understand what people have against Al. I thought we all loved Al. Al is the coolest. A little weird, but I mean, that’s Al’s appeal.
He’s working too hard. We just care about his well being. He doesn’t need to be doing everything by himself.
Fuck this pedophile pirate trying to stay relevant and respectable. Who the fuck is saying that AI will create more jobs??
Transcript:
Interviewer: So tell me about why you think AI really will take jobs away from human beings at a significant scale.
Bill Gates: Yeah, so there’s no doubt to date, AI has created more jobs than it’s destroyed. The demand for the skill sets even just to build the data centers is very, very high. We have a, you know, a reasonably low unemployment rate.
The superiority of these systems is subject to a threshold where you have to believe that it’s incredibly reliable. And if you’re going to have your tele-sales or tele-support capability be AI-driven, you want to make sure that its accuracy is better than humans. And so the only profession we’ve truly crossed over that threshold is coding. And even there, I know a lot of people who are, you know, kind of stuck in the past and, you know, don’t want to use the AI for coding. But managers of coders get that most applications can be developed very inexpensively.
We will, in the next few years, cross over those thresholds for accounting, legal work, tele-sales, tele-support where 24 hours a day in every language with infinite trivia capability and no urgency, you know, so you look at the AI nurse and their several companies. They have perfect memory.
[Interviewer briefly clarifies something here, I removed this part because the autotranscription didn’t handle it well]
You know, you go to San Francisco and ask people, do you rather ride in a Waymo or rather ride with the human driver? Go ask people in the UK who use limbic for mental health support. You know, so the notion that just the market demand preference for driving or the nurse, you know, or even the person on the phone will favor humans. That’s a quality threshold which will be passed through, you know, if say insurance companies are still doing human claims, medical claims, which is a very AI-capable task, then a competitor who has very few human employees will come in and change the pricing model for that industry.
I think robot customer support will always suck because whatever it is you need from the company, they don’t actually want to bother with you. Don’t think I’ve ever made a phone call because I needed “trivia capability”. It won’t be good because they won’t give it access or authority to actually help anyone.
He repeats the “better than humans at coding” which is super situational. Executives got so used to “code is code” mentality they can’t seem to understand that just because they can prompt up straightforward apps and other folks have done stunts like “make a knock off of this compiler” does not mean it’s just better than people.
Also very bizarre to say they have perfect memory, they are pretty spotty at that.
On the matter of support, it will generally always such because it’s rigged for the company in all matters where helping the customer would go against the company’s interests. Has been a long time. Why pay warranty when you can make it so painful they will give up?
They don’t give the average call center worker the ability to fix anything already. The gig mostly became being there for customers to abuse at some point with a bit of passing a handful of people up the chain one step closer to a person with the authorization to maybe offer you appeasement for a problem they won’t actually fix.
Bill didn’t say anything. Prices won’t go down because AI replaced humans. If anything they will rise, as they are.
Prices will definitely rise to cover operating costs and to recoup all the investment costs.
I honestly hope the whole thing crashes once people realize they can run their own LLM on their own hardware.
And what hardware is that, exactly? Speaking as someone with what I’d consider to be a pretty decent homelab, I can’t self host the kind of AI that I use for work, not without literally emptying my savings into the hardware and energy needs. AI is already expected and required in my job, so the only move forward is to give elon money for access to cursor, which my company is already doing. If the company were to self-host, they’d prolly still use one of those shiny new datacenters since there’s real value in offloading hardware ownership to a third party, meaning those never go away and they still dictate the cost of using AI. I have a hard time believing this will happen in most companies simply because they already shelled out tons of money for SAAS software that has been self-hostable for over a decade, so why would you think they’d stop and think “hmm maybe we could cut costs by taking over the hosting and maintenance of the AI ourselves”?
I think we’re at least a decade away from having user-accessible hardware for AI that doesn’t break the bank. I don’t think we have a decade to spare, however.
Speaking as someone with what I’d consider to be a pretty decent homelab, I can’t self host the kind of AI that I use for work, not without literally emptying my savings into the hardware and energy needs.
I think we’re at least a decade away from having user-accessible hardware for AI that doesn’t break the bank.
So, for coding, which is what Gates was specifically talking about being doable now, maybe we could corral up the hardware. Like, maybe one could cover specific fields.
There are still going to be issues like power and cooling and hardware cost and whether people who make competitive models are even interested in providing it for home use (since it makes it harder for them to make a return on their model). But set that aside.
As I’ve said before on here, I would say pretty confidently that we will not have local models running to do all of the stuff that cloud compute is used for or is being built out to for at least something like four to five years, and that’s if we started immediate, massive buildout of memory fabrication to a much greater degree than we have. You cannot build a new memory factory in less than that timeframe, and we will not have that capacity with existing factories. The majority of fabricated memory now is going to cloud AI use, and cloud AI hardware will have considerably higher capacity utilization than hardware at home. You’d have to have many times over as much memory being produced to have the same compute capacity at home.
I’m not opposed to doing LLMs or parallel compute at home at all. I have a 128GB Framework Desktop and an XT 7900 XTX that I got to do just that. I’m just saying that we are not going to realistically be able to move all of the stuff in the cloud to the home for at least something like half a decade, and very probably more, because humanity does not have the memory available and can’t build enough memory fabrication capacity for it in that timeframe. It doesn’t matter how much value is being provided by some home user of that hardware or what their willingness is to spend on it if we don’t have the memory. Like, even if every person in the world could produce, to pull a number out of the air, a real $1M in value every year via use of a home AI rig, even if all that demand suddenly materialized out of thin air, all that would happen is that prices would rise sufficiently to make the hardware unaffordable even at those extreme levels. The constraint is on the supply end, not the demand end.
Understandably you won’t be running meta level Machine models, but running olama and downloading a open LLM model can get users started for simple things they might have already been doing.
I am running a fully local model for my smart home needs, since Google’s killed of Assistant and is now pushing Gemini down my throat, I figured I would just do it my self.
For anyone interested take a look at NetworkChuck on YouTube. His videos are a little to sensational for me, but he does have some interesting topics covered from time to time.
AI is already expected and required in my job
then you should be looking for a new job… unless you happen to be on a very specific niche, any company so committed to current AI that cannot survive without, will implode in short time
Have fun finding a coding job that doesn’t expect you to use AI. My entire circle of contacts on the field are already there, so right off the bat my main way of getting a job would be crippled.
Yeah the IT department of my company had an all hands meeting today and I was a little taken aback by how much AI push there was, how much devs are expected to use it, and how much it’s costing us. They say it saves time, but there was a notable drop in app quality over the last few months, I can’t say it was caused by devs using AI for sure, but it is the most obvious answer considering there hasn’t been a big staff turnover in the same time period…
Understanding is a long time coming. It will probably take businesses realizing they are stealing all their trade secrets when using LLMs for any meaningful information to come out.
Are there any trustworthy local LLMs currently?
poor BILL, trying to distract people from him being with epstein and giving his wife an std, notice how all the news about his philantrophy stopped immediately after all this news came out. thats why thought his “charities” are just scams the whole time.
Yeah really. Also buying up farmland.
The video where he gets asked about Jeffrey, the micro expressions, eyes all over the place, fidgeting, tonal changes, stammering, indirectly stating being involved by bringing up slight details without being asked directly about them, etc–it’s easier to watch the video. He lost his cool so fast it makes Clinton look like a smooth criminal.
“Millions of people around the world will soon consider large models ‘hoovering up’ all their work to be an astonishing theft of unprecedented proportions,” an internal Microsoft document admitted.
https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-is-creating-doom-loops-all-over-the-economy
People are already losing the jobs they have because of Ai
Isn’t this the guy who tried to slip his wife STD medicine because he had sex and caught something from (allegedly underage) Russian prostitutes on Epstein Island?
That’s right! Bill Gates fucked a kid.
“allegedly underage” oh sure, ole Willy Gates fucked Epstein’s old lady slaves. Which he was known for.
That doesn’t mean he’s wrong about AI though.
But, they are also controlling the narrative by playing good cop bad cop on this subject. So he’s not telling the truth, either.
bill asked EPSTEIN how to sneak it into his wife without her noticing. he probably couldnt do it because abx has to be properly prescribed depending on the type of bacteria, and for how long. its not like single pill cures it once and all.
Whatever it was it was bad enough for his wife to divorce him
Rebuilding a collapsed society does require a lot of work.
Having seen fucking crypto and NFTs and now this LLM abomination, their fucking greed and narcissism… absolutely nauseating.
What is tragic, though, there are whole countries being pushed by their governments – already lobbied by big techbros promising “miracles” – to normalize LLMs as if these are nothing to worry about, anywhere from queries to create posters and… fuck damn, essays.
Oh hey both of these guys can get a data center shoved up their asses sideways
Data centers can hum very loudly, I wonder if they vibrate too
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GATES: Go to San Francisco and ask people “would you rather ride in a Waymo or rather ride with a human driver?”
So, he’s right about that—I’ve seen past polling that shows that people in the Bay Area do say that they prefer to not have to deal with a human driver and would prefer the robotic taxi over the human-driven one. But it’s also true, unless things have changed recently, and I have not been monitoring the situation, that Waymo’s rates were higher, and so it’s also not presently an even comparison. You have to pay a premium for the Waymo.
That being said, my bet is that a lot of Waymo’s costs are fixed, so those costs will drop on a per-ride basis as their fleet scales up. And they are expanding.
Can confirm, live in SF and prefer waymos. They don’t have a sense of urgency so they tend to drive safer then the Uber drivers who are trying to get you to the destination and out of the car as quick as possible to start the next ride, can’t blame them but they drive really aggressive sometimes. They are more expensive though…
Human drivers, fuel, car parts, and compute are all non-fixed.
Whenever I visit SF for work once a quarter it feels like there is a cult running the city. So many cringe ads telling you that meta glasses will let you be more in the moment and some XY product will make AI work for you without really telling you anything about the product. Yet they can’t even keep their elevators at the transit stops working cuz fuck the poor and disabled. Point is, SF has a weird sense of priorities and I don’t really trust the common wisdom coming from that place. I love Oakland though, some of the best food to be found there
One of the greatest sociopaths in history claiming society must embrace lobotomisation to appease his imaginary god.
Financial obesity is neurotoxic, and anyone afflicted should be quarantined from the decision making processes which affect those not contaminated.
Why listen to a guy with a micro soft?
