Shameful
Germany is giving israel weapons to exterminate Palestinians
Attacking Palestinians with submarines?
Submarines was not the only things included in this. Why should you have a settler colonial power doing genocide in any shape or form anyway
The naval blockage of Gaza is part of the genocide, so yeah pretty much.
That is also not enforced with submarines.
It is enforced with Israeli naval superiority, of which submarines contribute to.
I think it’s time for the German elite to let it go. That’s it, it was awful, but it was almost a century ago. No living German was part of it. It’s time to move on.
Exactly. No living palestinian nor israeli was part of the UN suggestion of the two state solution (which was rejected and a war was started…and was lost. Then another one.). So, time to move on?
In reality it looks more convenient not to move on - but to act as if the 1947 plan by UN hasn’t been rejected…by the very own predecessors.
It’s not the responsibility of today’s Germany to help the two sides out of the conflict where they are stuck for decades now. Both not even recognising as states (so not respecting borders?).
Germany signed many international treaties forcing then legally to act and help Palestinians. Those treaties did not tell Germany to give weapons for decades so Israel exterminate palestinians.
The two state solution was always a non solution. Jews didn’t have enough territories anywhere to make a state without ethenic cleansing.
As long as the resources (provided by Germany and others) in Gaza are handled and distributed by local paramilitaries (hamass) - and the same help can be seen as supporting and enabling attacks as the 7th of October (which you conveniently ignore)
- then Germany (nor others) should not bear main responsibility helping both of the sides out of the decades old conflict.
You’re blaming the other side (ignoring - or maybe approving?! - the atrocities made by the other)
- then you are a part of the problem, not the solution. Good bye!
Israel is the settler colonial. It is like saying we should have not support neither ukraine and russia or we should have neither supporter the allies and the axis. You are the same type of people who would have defended the slave owners after the Nat Turner uprise.
then you are a part of the problem, not the solution. Good bye!
Yo are part of the problem , you are against international obligation that obligate germany legally to stop all aid to Israel
Germany always manages to be on the wrong side of history
I think Germany has a special relationship with “whiteness” that makes it especially vulnerable to fascism, especially in how Germany is perceived and treated by other groups of white people.
Also though, Germany is a culture bursting with contradictions, within a year of Mein Kempf being published another novel was published The Magic Mountain by Thomas Mann by an originally German author who moved to the US.
The Magic Mountain is firmly cemented in German culture… and is indisputably one of the best novels ever written in German or English and is certainly one of the most humanist and openly accepting of humanity in all its “failures” of any great novel of the 20th century. The Magic Mountain is the most supremely antifascist novel imaginable and it is equally allergic to racism and discrimination.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Mann
With the start of the Cold War, he was increasingly frustrated by rising McCarthyism. As a “suspected communist”, he was required to testify to the House Un-American Activities Committee, where he was termed “one of the world’s foremost apologists for Stalin and company”.[19] He was listed by HUAC as being “affiliated with various peace organizations or Communist fronts”.
Being in his own words a non-communist, rather than an anti-communist, Mann openly opposed the allegations: “As an American citizen of German birth, I finally testify that I am painfully familiar with certain political trends. Spiritual intolerance, political inquisitions, and declining legal security, and all this in the name of an alleged ‘state of emergency’. … That is how it started in Germany.”
As Mann joined protests against the jailing of the Hollywood Ten and the firing of schoolteachers suspected of being Communists, he found “the media had been closed to him”.[20] Finally, he was forced to quit his position as Consultant in Germanic Literature at the Library of Congress,[21] and in 1952, he returned to Europe, to live in Kilchberg, near Zürich, Switzerland. Here he initially lived in a rented house and bought his last house there in 1954 (which later his widow and then their son Golo lived in until their deaths).
He never again lived in Germany, though he regularly traveled there. His most important German visit was in 1949, at the 200th birthday of Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, attending celebrations in Frankfurt am Main (then West Germany) and Weimar (then East Germany), as a statement that German culture extended beyond the new political borders.[22] He also visited Lübeck, where he saw his parents’ house, which was partially destroyed by the bombing of Lübeck in World War II (and only later rebuilt).
History is a nightmare from which we are trying to awake.
> Gives Israel a billion dollars, because they’re so sorry.
> Still elects Nazis.
Edit: Although, Jesus, people are big mad at them in here. Russia and “Belarus” are still the problem, and Germany is still a valuable member of the EU.
Jesus, you are a prolific (“big, very big”) troll for normalizing putler alone – and especially so when normalizing putler’s Russia in comparison to an EU member state. No shame, no clues. Yet - thousands of posts. Omg.
Did you reply to the wrong person?
If not, the edit makes it pretty clear I’m not siding with Russia.
Ok, thanks! That helped 🖐️
Israel commits genocide.
So they got support from the experts.
Using today’s definition of “genocide” per UN, even Canada commits genocide, and HAMAS for that matter.
Neither Hamas and Canada are destroying 70% of other people infrastructures and are currently creating a famine by bombing 85% of the agricultural field .
Hamas eliminates 100% of palestinians who are deemed not to support hamas. Hamas has even been killing the members of a competing party/paramilitary, Fatah. Or other palestinians, who hope to coexist with Israel. Or only are believed to be neutral to the neighbouring country.
And hamas certainly eliminates each and every palestinian who is suspected to be helping to locate and free any israeli, captured by hamas.
Yup. Other than that, hamas is so very good and perfectly nice. “Why so serious?” /s
Israel is doing every single goddamn atrocities Hamas did for 78 goddamn year . Don’t claim that you care about any Palestinians when you support the side doing the genocide
I would only suggest or expect, that you (as well as any other person) to stop lying and putting your own words into others’ mouth. But in the end it’s your choice - and your responsibility. And you’ve just lied 💁
And I certainly keep considering any life as precious and sacred - especially of those, who have little chances of vocalising their peaceful humane believes (like palestinians in the hands of the ruthless hamas paramilitaries - or protesting citizens inside putler’s Russia). That is my choice - NOT your barbaric claims.
Everybody is lying except supporter of settler colonialism like you. I oppose hamas atrocities and israel atrocities .
Colonizers in the West Bank are burning homes, beating up the elderly, and attacking livestock. Israel built the colonies, put the colonizers on the land, armed the colonizers, and protects them when they commit their acts of terrorism
The barbaric rhetoric comes from you
I don’t - and can’t - take any of your claims - as i have just noted how you are lying when presenting your barbaric ideas for my believes.
It’s nice that at least you’re trying to claim to oppose atrocities
- but yeah, these are your claims. So it could be lies, again.
So does germany.
Can’t make this shit up. Germany needs a better army because Russia is actively attacking it, so what do they do? Sell their shit to Israel.
A quick reminder that Russia’s attack on Europe is decisively supported by China.
Look I know China personally about as you do and I can tell you one thing: they don’t want any war. They just want to be the centre of the world again and make every nation economically dependent on them. War doesn’t help them, because they win with economy.
You do know what happens to the economy of countries that go to war, right?
By your own argument, China should be giddy about everyone else going to war.
China want buyers for things that aren’t just weapons. They prefer using the weapons for themselves to threaten other countries in the eastern Asian seas
