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As a MAGA with Treatable Cancer I would rather DIE a HORRIBLE PAINFUL and PREVENTABLE Death then to see ONE Minority Child Healthy!
funny thing is maga is more likely to believe in pseudoscience when faced with a chronic or deadly illness, they will do all sorts alternative medicines.
No, you just haven’t tried my cancer curing recipe of ginger, garlic, and neem leaves. If you tried it and it didn’t work, you just didn’t eat enough. Or maybe it was your bad vibes that spoiled the cure. /s
I’ve been using a mixture of saltpeter and salt as my cure all. I’m thinking of adding smoking to the mix to give it some oomph against cancer
the new trend is ivermectin, some hydroxquinilone, maybe some artemesia. also becoming flouride free is a new trend too.
If something can’t cure a sausage how do these people expect it to cure a disease?
what!? no! what about the poor insurance companies who charge more than a fucking mortgage?!
No worries. Since they own the democrats too, this will never happen.
won’t somebody PLEASE think of the billionaires!?
I’m be real, and ain’t nobody wanna hear this but…
Even with full health insurance, most hospitals and doctors in my 50 mile radius area either do not accept patients or are booked out to 5 months. I really think we have a educational problem that’s leading to not enough qualified doctors. I also see a lot of “Nurse Practitioners” and actual MDs that are running rounds at multiple area hospitals.
Not only does DJT know that Democrats won’t pass Universal Healthcare (setting them up for failure), but doing so would lead to cutting corners on actually educating qualified doctors, possibly leading to more harm than good.
IMO the bigger issue is education, planning, and prioritizing. We (as a Nation) can’t go all in on Universal Healthcare without planning and prioritizing education and ensuring that our system can handle the flood of new patients.
Healthcare is being run as a business with “just in time” supply and demand, overworking the workers who are willing to work overtime to save patients, cutting fat and trimming operations until it is a lean machine that when you take anything away would sputter. That is the ideal neoliberal image of healthcare. We saw how that worked out with Covid. Some areas should be inefficient and have “fat”.
And of course the burocracy mandated by private insurance.
The rate at which new doctors are trained in the USA has historically been bottlenecked by the number of residency program slots available. Hospitals financially benefit from each resident they employ, but not as much as they do from adding other roles, instead (such as nurses). Also, it is not trivial to create a new residency program or expand an existing one (accreditation requirements, other fixed costs, etc.). This is why 25 % of USA physicians are immigrants. The Republicans have also made it more expensive to get loans for medical school, which will discourage some people from going to med school in the future, although the insufficient supply of residency slots might still end up being the bottleneck.
Damn, it’s a more multi-faceted issue than I had guessed. The U.S. sure has a long uphill battle ahead…
They are booked out, because the insurance makes them go thru mutliple loops, wasting an insane amount of time. My dentist had to make 4 separate appointments for a root canal/crown, because the insurance required proving each sub-procedure, with x-ray for each one of them, that otherwise wouldn’t be required. and I could’ve had it done in two.
I don’t understand why we need a plan.
When cheif of the fire department needs more people; They hire more.
When the chief of police needs more deputies; They hire more.
When the chief of medicine needs more nurses… Wait we don’t have a cheif of medicine? Hu. Werid…
the chief, is actually the hospital admin, think CUDDY from house, shes the 'boss" of that hospital.
You’re really falling for the fascist lie of “people are getting dumber”
Is it really a fascist lie?
At least in the U.S. the educational burden has certainly increased. The cost of living, the closing of schools and combining of districts, the stagnant wages of teachers, the shortage of teachers due to the stagnation, the automation of jobs is removing apprenticeships, LLMs do not teach as well as doing things hands on. The influence of social media is still a strong pull and media literacy feels like it’s at a low in the U.S.
I have a feeling in the next decade we’re going to start seeing the consequences as boomers age out of legacy jobs and automation takes the place where educated workers used to.
Yes. It is a fascist lie.
And education != intellect, education teaches people how to harness the intellect they already have more effectively. A metaphor is “everyone has flour, education teaches you how to make it into bread”
Another key point, to fill the gap caused by extremely expensive Higher Education, self-teaching has become a booming market.
Stuff like Online Courses that give a degree if you pay, but all the material is given for free.
wages are definitely stagnant for teachers, we had people arguing in the subs, that they are relatively “high” in certain places, but the COL negates the wages a bit. like here it takes 10years being a teacher to get even 100k, with the hcol, its way less than that. i wonder if teachers even stay that long and, if 70k is really the starting salary. im also hearing districts are using SUBSTITUTES instead to lower the cost of hiring a full time teacher.
Education isn’t the bottleneck, residency is. Plenty of qualified doctors coming out of med school that don’t get residency, so they have to try again next year (and compete against fresh grads).
Raising residency limits is, of course, unpopular because it means more doctors, which means less demand, so less pay to cover med school loans…and nobody wants med school to cost less. Least of all the people buying up those loans. Read: rich folk that live on investments.
The number one cause of personal bankruptcy in the USA is healthcare. At this point, what is worse, losing everything to a massive dumpster fire, US healthcare, waiting for treatment or croaking because your health insurance sucks shit.
The hardest part of American healthcare is buying the tickets to Europe or Mexico for the affordable operation.
2nd one is likely student debt loan, from expensive private universities.
Weird how a for-profit system chugs along just fine, but not when it’s not profit driven. No, then there’s a sudden education and staff shortage!
You’re being irrational
You can open the floodgates but if a plan is not in place to displace the water it’ll overcome the system.
The for-profit system is also already slow as balls. It chugs along fine at a snails pace.
To say there’s not a educational shortage on degrees that take up to 8+ years in a country that is already facing an educational deficit I think is the real irrational. Planning is an important step that shouldn’t just be left as an afterthought.
In Canada when they implemented dental care they did it progressively by age group, that could help a bit with the issues you’re describing.
It’s something like 90% of Americans avoid going to the doctor at all if they can help it, 5 months is a lot less time then never. Also demand drives supply, more patients means more need for clinics, imaging centers, hospitals, doctors, nurses, universities etc. universal healthcare could be a financial boon
I can’t help but feel it was likely taken out of context. Anyone got the full version?
Yeah, he is dumb, but this would be a whole another level…
probably followed by something like “even the illegal dog-eating immigrants!”
Is it that hard to understand that in a society we have created to sustain and cooperate for the benefit of all, healthcare is something everyone should have? Like water, electricity, school, decent housing. If you want luxury items pay for them, but health as well as the other basics now in XXI centure should never be a luxury, it should always be a human right.
Bad if you hate certain people.
I hate uncertain people
Why? 😰
Because I’m certain but they are not
I’m not certain
Threatening people with good times
I…honestly am not sure if this is an onion. :'(
No silly, it’s an online post
They’ll both make you cry though.
You mean like the every functional county on earth?
He made a similar statement during 24 campaign that if Harris won we’d all have to live with everyone having healthcare. Party has been doublethinking on this for a long time.
Only if you’re a racist prick, which Trump voters are
Conservatives: well we already believe a story written by men thousands of years ago, we aren’t about to stop now lol
There are people, who are afraid, free healthcare will lead to people not taking care of their health. That’s how they tried to astroturf the “pro-paid healthcare” movement in Hungary.
There are people, who are afraid, free healthcare will lead to people not taking care of their health
They are usually the same people that weighs 350 pounds and don’t trust vaccines.
But lecture people that the moment healthcare will be free, no one will be working out, and will be smoking 2354 packs a day.
Which is BS of course, expensive healthcare makes people skip on prevention which leads to worse health and more expensive treatments. You just have to look to the US to see that.
I went to a surgery because I was bleeding from my ass. I was told it was covered. When I got here I was told it wasn’t covered. The doctor said it would be. It wasn’t, because the claim codes were in the wrong order. I should have never went into that surgery.
I’ve been on phone calls with the hospital, the insurance company, the doctor, and the hospital billing office (separate from the hospital and unable to communicate with it for some reason) for well over a year.
My insurance company assured me that it would be taken care of. They then closed the case and opened at least one other internal case where they say it’s not being taken care of.
I pay over 10k out of my paycheck to cover my family. That’s before we hit the 4k family deductible and still have to pay 20% on most services.
God bless the United States healthcare system.
12 years ago in Houston, my newborn twins had to be transferred to another hospital. They were moved via ambulance. I received a bill for $11,000 from the ambulance company. My company insurance stated ambulances were covered 100%. I asked why I received this bill and they told me this ambulance was out of network. I asked them which ambulance the hospital was supposed to use and they told me all ambulances in Houston were out of network. My company and my residence was located in Houston.
This whole thing is awful.
I doubt your issue is unique in regards to fighting this crap. This is an issue with the insurance complex, not having it to begin with. Healthcare in USA is atrocious.
The people angry about healthcare being paid for don’t currently have healthcare usually. Especially on the good liars, the look like total fools. Why you wouldn’t want your family to be able to go to a doctor and not go bankrupt is beyond me. Wild timeline. Weird it’s even an issue.
It really is the “everyone” that annoys people. I’ve asked conservatives to explain to me how insurance works as a business model. They pretty quickly realize two things:
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Monthly premiums of everyone cover the needs of anyone in need today. (Some seem to think it is like a bank account, but pretty quickly realize why that doesn’t make sense. Framing it around car insurance instead of healthcare tends to help if they are struggling here.)
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As a for profit business, they need to collect more in monthly premiums from each customer than they will provide that customer with benefits. Otherwise, the business is not profitable.
Once they understand these two facts, then they are ready to understand why government sponsored healthcare is optimal. It maximizes the number of people paying into the monthly premiums, while minimizing the profit margin because the government doesn’t need to be run at a profit. Many disagree with that last point, but will usually be satisfied by phrasing it as “bringing in a minimal profit. Otherwise, we wouldn’t want to be overtaxed, right?”
I think all forced insurances must also provide a government alternative to keep the vultures humble
Once they understand these two facts, then they are ready to understand why government sponsored healthcare is optimal.
In my experience they’ll understand the two facts but still arrive at the unwavering conclusion that it’s still better than the government running it.
Sadly, I’ve had similar experiences. Some people are so indoctrinated or have had such bad experiences with corruption in other countries, they just refuse to acknowledge how it would work in the US.
Others are so committed to the identity of not letting anyone, especially the government, tell them what to do (pay taxes), but that is a dying breed in the era of MAGA and post-Covid. (I know COVID is still very much an issue for some areas, but I digress.)
My main point is that while getting someone to understand these two facts may not change their minds, their minds will not change unless they understand these 2 facts. It opens up the door to a conversation that cannot be had beforehand.
I can agree with that. even if we can’t change their mind, they’re at least finally beginning to see that corporations don’t operate in the best interests of consumers.
With government helthcare there are also no “in network” and “out of network” doctors. You can simply just go to any fucking docktor you want and you don’t have to worry if one of the people in the hospital is out of network and you suddenly have to pay thousands for something you had basically no control over.
This is in my opinion the biggest plus of government helthcare.
This also means you don’t have to change dr every time you change your job
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The food companies who sell that processed food slop and the food regulatory commissions that allow it should be paying for people’s healthcare. Don’t tell me it’s a choice. It’s only a choice for people who can afford it, and nowadays most can’t.
