This is gonna piss some people (men) off, I can already tell…
This is an excellent point and I think it demonstrates really well what people mean by “all men”
Even tho I love men as much as the next straight girl…bear for me, please
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Thanks (/s) for promoting the manosphere and a female only lgbt movement. This is exactly how you divide people and radicalise them on generalisations.
a female only lgbt movement.
It’s not just women and girls that are raped. Men and boys and enbies are raped, too. And most rapists are men.
The manosphere exists despite people talking about our rape culture. We shouldn’t stop just because some men might traffic and rape and beat us more.
And most rapists are men.
Yes, but not all and not all men are rapists. It’s almost like use of generalizations quells discourse and drives division.
It’s almost like I didn’t use generalizations very specifically and yet you’re still getting after me about it.
Cool.
I wasn’t “getting after” you, I was reinforcing the other, actually valid, point you seemed to ignore from the comment you replied to.
This is exactly how you divide people and radicalise them on generalisations.
Which in turn was directly relevant to the OP and the topic.
Maybe take a couple deep breaths and calm down.
Maybe take a couple deep breaths and calm down.
Yeah I’m spinning out over here, crashing and burning everything in sight. /s
Gonna call me hysterical next?
Holy shit they really came out of the woodwork.
Nope. Just gonna block and move on.
I think what they were getting at, or at least what I’M getting at here, is that the problem with statistics is that they forsake the individual. My problem is that despite being sexually abused by two women (and zero men), I’m still viewed as a potential aggressor rather than a definite victim. I am fully divided and my sympathy is, for the most part, reserved for myself.
I was also sexually abused by a woman, but that isn’t part of a greater system. Also it was only the men who dismissed me and didn’t believe it was really sexual assault while most women believed me.
it isnt all men bc they would or wouldnt do something. its all men bc if they chose to do something or avoid doing something as the post states, they wouldnt be held accountable in any meaningful way by anyone. they might get raise, promotions, whatever for such behavior more often than accountability.
the reason its not all women isnt bc women cant do bad things. the reason is who gets away with it or gets advantages for it
statements like these arent a competition of what gender or group can have the most bad people. its who society allows the most to be bad
ik it makes people feel attacked to hear such statements like “all men”. but against a group that is advantaged by society, its hard for us minorities to really hurt them using these statements. and it makes us be weary and remember to be weary around men. again not bc all men are all bad, but because if they are, there’s nothing to be done about it. all we can do in an oppressed society is remember to be weary
This is…a much better way of putting it than I did, with this meme. Honestly this whole post was such a mistake. But…thanks for that. I agree with you ❤️
the post is simplistic but it is trying to say something similar. my knee jerk reaction was also to criticize the post but i think its best to figure out the context and try to see where someone’s coming. much of social media’s arbitrary limitations has made communicating difficult things like these harder. communities therefore end up devolving into not understanding each other or contexts. maybe with things like fediverse this changes
No, the post wasn’t a mistake. Things like this need to be talked about, even if we don’t agree 100% with how it’s phrased. Only through dialogue can new opinions be formed.
And I get why you say stuff… I can’t help that it hits the wrong way for me, even though I totally agree with your base point.
You might be one of the most respectable people I’ve ever argued with (on the internet). I’m glad the comment I replied to was yours ❤️
Thank you, and I appreciate your posts, even though I can’t relate to many of them. I get it.
I think the core problem of the meme itself is how simplistic it is. Our society has unfortunately turned everything into a soundbite that’s gone in seconds, and it makes discussion difficult to focus on, and also alienates those who either misunderstand or get the wrong message.
And despite what others say, that’s not trying to derail the main topic, I think it’s part of it.
Memes do have their place, of course. Sometimes you need something short, and when it’s relatable to most everyone, it’s popular. When it hits nerves, you get reactions in different directions. But I’ve always said the best serious discussions are in the non-serious forums. Somehow they spark topics while actual serious posts get overlooked.
I think you meant to remind people to be wary.
yes. fixed!
It’s not all men, in the same way that not all racoons have rabies.
If you get bitten by a racoons, are you going to say “not all racoons”, or are you going to get a rabies shot?
“Not all men, but enough that you need to treat it like it’s all men” doesn’t quite have the same ring to it.
If you get bitten by a racoons, are you going to say “not all racoons”, or are you going to get a rabies shot?
Get a shot, because a raccoon that bit you is overwhelmingly likely to be rabid.
“Not all men, but enough that you need to treat it like it’s all men” doesn’t quite have the same ring to it.
You don’t need to though. You choose to based on your own experiences and biases. When someone says it’s not all men they are basing that on their experiences and biases.
Neither “men” nor “women” are a monolith.
I was going to post this as a reply, but I decided to make it a top comment since it’s more a comment about the post itself.
I am not gonna be the best at explaining myself, and I am feeling hurt from this so I am a bit emotional, but here goes.
I try my best to be an ally. I speak up when things aren’t right or people are uncomfortable wherever I am. I haven’t been in any real situations where I have had to physically intervene, but that’s more because I am a homebody and I don’t generally go to clubs or parties where I don’t know anyone.
I do hurt from this, so I don’t like how you assume I wouldn’t. I don’t believe I am in the group that is meant by “all men”, because I have done the right thing in the past. However, that doesn’t stop it from hurting.
What I interpret from the posted meme is that there is no room for discussion. All men are bad no matter what. I understand the point being made that any one random man has a greater than 50/50 chance to be bad and that the stakes are too high to take a chance.
What I understand from reading this post and it’s conversation in general is that I need to continue being an ally, but that when I see anyone say “all men” I just need to shut up and accept it.
I’m not going to stop being an ally or doing the right thing just because it hurts, but I will stop talking about it since it just comes of as comparing traumas which I don’t want to do or be seen as doing. I will say it does make me want to talk less about my feelings in general though.
I just wanted to put what I feel about this out there so I can let it go. I don’t want or intend for anyone to think I am making this about me, or that men have it as bad as women in any way. Sorry for posting this I guess.
I just need to shut up and accept it.
Fuck that, misandrism is not acceptable. OP should focus her hate more intentionally.
misandrism is like when white people say it makes them sad when you call them a kkkrakkker.
You use the DSA logo as your avatar while taking misandry seriously. Are you sure you’re not just a centrist Democrat?
It’s sort of like police. ACAB. One apple ruins the bunch. Occasionally there will be a good news story of a cop doing something good. That’s like 1 in 1000 stories. So until otherwise proven, ACAB.
The same allegory applies to men. Every woman had a story about being SAed. I literally have not met a woman that doesn’t have an SA story. I don’t meet many men who have an “I stopped my bros from SAing a woman”.
It’s usually, I walked away. Or, I cut him off. Woman hear this as “you silently accepted the behavior”.
Like ACAB, sexism is structural; it’s systemic. Some people don’t know how to think systemically/structurally, and some pretend not to know how, because they believe that they benefit from patriarchy (or white supremacy, or private ownership of the means of production).
I’ve taken to reframing it. It never has been “all men”, but it 100% is ALL women.
I’ve given up friendships because they were shitty to women. I’m not among the “all men” in my estimation. But EVERY woman I know has had an experience that could be applied to the “all men” thing.
I’m not going to tell women how to voice their experience, but I’ve had enough of these conversations to understand what (I believe) is actually meant.
You should be okay as a man with women complaining about men like this. You should be able to complain about men like that.
Hey, everyone’s just explaining things and I just felt that its important for you to know; you’re kind. Thank you for being a good person. <3
The irony of a post with that specific brand of ragebait on x getting cross-posted to lemmy by yet another Miisha alt is so thick it borders on parody.
To throw a hat in the rhetorical ring:
All Men is to All Cops what All People is to All Rapists.
Men and People are inherited categories. They cannot be categories of choice. Cops and Rapists are, inescapably, categories of choice. The comparison of Men to Police seems apt at a glance but undermines itself by way of category error. Then it alienates via demonization the very demographic it is ostensibly meant to sway.
I doubt most good faith interpretation of the phrase anyway because it is so well crafted as a thought terminating cliche. Such rhetoric is rarely the product of dialogue or ideals focused on alliance, progress or solidarity.
A more useful rhetorical twist would be re-wording “If a Nazi is sitting at the table, and ten others are sitting there chatting with him, you have eleven Nazis at the table.” into something like “Sexual abuse is common because we think of ‘rapist’ as an exclusive label. It isn’t though. If one person abuses another at a party, and ten others notice or even suspect abuse but say nothing, then there were eleven rapists at the party”. That’s clunky but I’m not going to take the time to wordsmith it right now and I’m sure the point is clear enough.
What does this being on my alt have to do with this? Genuinely curious
They’re being sexist.
That’s a gross and inaccurate accusation by way of assumption.
Every prolific female poster on Lemmy gets the same accusations. You’re not even being clever.
It reinforces the “reputation farming super user” trope.
I was AMAB. I was still a boy when I was going through high school and college. I’d absolutely intervene if someone wasn’t being treated right. I did back then. I’d let some hypothetical kid go to a party with all boys because either I know those kids or I’m going to be there with her.
I’m not saying all this for a congratulations, I don’t give a rat’s ass what y’all think of me. I just want boys to have voices out there in communities like ours saying “it’s okay, you’re welcome here too if you don’t like what those redpilled losers are saying”, because I wish I had it when I was young.
I just want boys to have voices out there in communities like ours saying “it’s okay, you’re welcome here too if you don’t like what those redpilled losers are saying”, because I wish I had it when I was young.
Thank you so much for making this comment <3
wait, do you not want to debate me on the validity or importance of what I’ve written? you’ve done so for almost everyone else
I don’t disagree with men because they’re men. I agree with your comment and appreciate the call out to boys and men that they don’t have to lean into the patriarchy to belong somewhere.
I leave supportive comments, too hahah
I did say debate, not disagree. I’m not sure what’s in your mind.
and I wasn’t expecting you to disagree because I’m a man, I haven’t been one for a while now lol
Oh I wasn’t calling you a man, sorry if that wasn’t clear - I was referring to the “everyone else” that I was “debating”.
Oftentimes my debates around here are seen as disagreements and sometimes they are shrug
I want to believe that at least some of the people defending men are not-men. I have a lot of wonderful men in my family who deserve that grace.
I can respect that, no sense in agreeing with everything you see, especially if it’s an injustice that deserves scrutiny
I want to believe that at least some of the people defending men are not-men. I have a lot of wonderful men in my family who deserve that grace.
That’s my belief as well and same feelings about the wonderful men in my life. I’m not assuming everyone here is a man just some users whose names I recognize, again just to be clear :)
I didn’t know I wished I had this as a child, until you wrote it out.
So… I guess you should keep broadcasting, and I should speak the fuck up.
There is a large number of men that stand by when something is happening, or are the perpetrators of violence. I think the reason that men are offended is because it also paints over the men who are trying to be allies. If transfolk started using the phrase “all cis” to describe who is inflicting violence, it would be overwhelming cis people causing violence towards them. It’s factually correct. It also wouldn’t help framing themselves as a culture war issue.
The issue isn’t that its correct, it’s the prevalent idea in online communities that “I ought to be right” without some sort of call to action or creation of community. If a person posting about any social issue, whether that be this or immigration rights, or black lives, is simply writing a post with no means for action behind it to simply drive home a point isn’t benefitting their community, but stoking outrage to increase engagement on social media.
By using “all men” rhetoric, not only are you alienating men that are sympathetic for the cause, but you’re actively driving away men that are teetering on the edge.
I understand how dire of an issue this is. If you really want to make change, stop posting culture war rhetoric and start promoting and volunteering locally. Start to make an actual change instead of getting random men angry online.
Men who actually get the issue and are the select few who step in and tell others off for unacceptable behaviour don’t get offended by the generalisation.
Sure, I agree, “not all men”. But women have no way of telling if you’re one of the “good guys”, or one of the good guys - therefore I fully get and support the sentiment of “all men”.
You know who DOES get offended by the generalisation? Either the perpetrators (because they don’t like being called out), or the ones who stand by and do nothing (because they’re ashamed of it, yet refuse to change).
Just because I get it and I agree, doesn’t mean it doesn’t hurt to hear directed at me. I just accept it’s gotta hurt for things to get better for women.
There’s a separation between the rhetoric and basic safety. I’m talking about rhetoric. I never said, “not all men”, in fact I said that its true that a large portion of men are complicit. For a woman, of course they should be worried about whether there’s a man on the other side of the street vs a woman. That’s not what I’m talking about.
I’m talking about the perpetuation of culture war rhetoric, which this is one of many, where people argue in circles until they don’t have the drive to actually go out and do something.
I understand how dire of an issue this is. If you really want to make change, stop posting culture war rhetoric and start promoting and volunteering locally. Start to make an actual change instead of getting random men angry online.
Those aren’t mutually exclusive.
So you’re pro stoking outrage online? I’m kind of confused by your comment.
I don’t like people telling women they should be quieter about how often they’re raped and by whom.
We can talk about the rate of sexual violence and work to make change locally.
No one’s saying anyone should be quieter about the rate of sexual violence. I’m specifically talking about culture war rhetoric used to create large divides. Do you think parroting a culture war talking point a) helps spread awareness of how horrible the rate of sexual violence for women is or b) alienates people who would potentially be allies because of the inherently alienating statement?
Considering there’s quite a bit of constructive conversation happening in this thread alone, yes, I believe it does help spread awareness of how horrible the rate of sexual violence is for women.
I find that a lot of men are ignorant to the real numbers and are often shocked at how high they really are.
If you look at the upvote/downvote ratio, you see another story. The vast majority of people aren’t even interacting with this post. Just your comments on this post alone account for 20% of engagement.
This post has only been up for 2 hours. Upvotes and downvotes shift a lot over about 1-2 days on Lemmy. I wouldn’t use it as an indicator on interaction quite yet.
Oh no, I’m contributing to a forum that’s designed for communication /s
Yeah, I worry that boys who are young enough to still have their brains developing and aren’t really capable of delving into the nuance of it all, will hear “all men are/do x”, and they’ll erroneously understand it as “men should x” or “all men x, so I guess I’m not supposed to care or be surprised when I see other guys x?”, or for the ones on the edge that you mentioned, “I’m a man who has had thoughts about doing x, but I guess it’s pointless to resist acting on those thoughts in the future”. All of those interpretations are obviously the exact opposite of what the intended message and goal is, and sadly lots of those boys won’t have a good role model around to correct their thinking. So basically I worry that this kind of rhetoric is counter productive. At the same time I’m fine with ACAB, because being a cop is a choice whereas gender isn’t.
“I’m a man who has had thoughts about doing x, but I guess it’s pointless to resist acting on those thoughts in the future”.
Gender isn’t a choice necessarily, but this is an active choice.
If a man chooses to rape someone because their feelings were hurt by victims calling out rape culture, they were going to be rapists anyway.
Sure, some chud who thinks “Don’t tell me what to do! Now I’m going to go rape all I want to spite you.” Is an irredeemable monster. But I dunno, I guess I’m holding out hope that there are young guys out there who are just ignorant, maybe due to the adults in their lives not having the necessary talks with them, who absolutely would benefit from engaging in this conversation, but don’t engage because the post they saw that said “all men are rapists” just made them say to themselves “oh, but not me, I don’t do that” and they kept scrolling.
But maybe if the post they saw said something more like “did you know these things count as sexual assault?”, maybe they’d read it and say “oh shit, I saw my buddy getting handsy with that girl at that party who said she wanted to make out with him earlier in the night, but by the time I saw them together she seemed too drunk to really tell him whether she was still into it or not. It seemed fine at the time, but I get why that’s not cool now and I’ll say something the next time I see someone doing it. Maybe my buddy didn’t really understand why it’s a problem either, so I’ll send this post to him.”
Maybe I’m naive to think that the second tactic would work so much better than the first, and maybe some of it is due to where and when I grew up, but I absolutely knew guys in college that were generally good people but were woefully ignorant of our modern understanding of consent.
because the post they saw that said “all men are rapists” just made them say to themselves “oh, but not me, I don’t do that” and they kept scrolling.
That’s exactly what I expect men and boys to do when encountering conversations like this if they don’t perpetuate rape culture. This post isn’t talking about them and they can leave people to the conversation at hand and sleep peacefully at night knowing that they respect women and call out rape culture when they see it.
But maybe if the post they saw said something more like “did you know these things count as sexual assault?”,
My experience here has taught me that a post like that would be met with victim blaming and denial, but I would love to be proven wrong on that.
That’s exactly what I expect men and boys to do when encountering conversations like this if they don’t perpetuate rape culture
Therein lies the rub. My hypothetical guy doesn’t think he’s perpetuating rape culture because his naive understanding of it is “I don’t personally rape and I’ve never seen anyone raping but I’d definitely step in if I did”, except the definition of rape he was taught growing up was “forceful, unwanted penetrative sex between a man and woman”, so there could be a whole bunch of stuff he actually did see that he should’ve stopped, but it didn’t fit into his mental model, so he moved on and forgot about it. Those are the people that I fear aren’t being engaged, but have the potential to be great allies if the messaging is right.
My experience here has taught me that a post like that would be met with victim blaming and denial, but I would love to be proven wrong on that.
I stay off of pretty much all social media except here, so I’m probably out of touch, but I like to hope that for every shit bag that takes the time to comment, there are a dozen more thoughtful, reasonable people who honestly engage with and find the value in the post but don’t feel the need to comment. And I can’t imagine that a post essentially saying “here’s something you might not have known and should think about” will have nearly the amount of shitty, reactionary responses that “all men rape” will have. But maybe that’s because the former is met with “tl;dr” and the latter drives more overall engagement.
If you don’t avoid absolutes, your statement will always be subject to criticism.
Did we learn nothing from Star Wars?
“Only a sith deals in absolutes”
Miisha based.
The problem with any content like this is that it’s basically a scissor statement (or like “the dress”). It’s optimized for engagement through strategic ambiguity. (Not that the author necessarily consciously chose that, but platforms certainly encourage it.)
If you’re a woman looking at that, you resolve the ambiguity in favor of “this is talking about cultural forces that — though their exact nature is an accident of history — reliably act upon every single member of the culture who is socialized as a man”.
And if you’re a man looking at the same text, you resolve the ambiguity more like “this is taking a biologically essentialist view of social behavior that is actually entirely contingent on the individual, their history, their environment, and a dozen other variables”.
Both of those are fair opinions, whose opposing side is very difficult to defend. But they’re two entirely different conversations, and when you prime people to have one of those two conversations and then stick them in the same room, nothing productive will come of it.
Part of the issue is that the thought experiment set out in this post doesn’t quite work to demonstrate what it claims. To prove the hard claim, the father would have to be allowed to choose which men are at this party.
To prove the hard claim, the father would have to be allowed to choose which men are at this party.
I know you didn’t mean to, but this went so dark so fast when I read it.
Boo-yah! I’m losing a friend because every conversation involves misunderstandings from living in two seperate realities of fact, and the misunderstandings only make sense later once we figure out which facts we disagree on; the only remedy I know involves getting clarification before asuming the worse interpretation.
I feel ya. When I was in a similar situation, I happened to listen to this and it helped me tremendously: https://youarenotsosmart.com/2018/12/17/yanss-143-how-to-talk-to-people-about-things/
You know posts like this annoy the hell out of me because people with this mindset put identity before character, and I really hate when that is somebody’s list of priorities.
Before coming out as trans, people ditched me when I was mentally unwell. I’d done more than enough to prove the kind of character I have, but say one stupid blanket statement about women in a severe depressive episode, and people treat me as a dangerous man. This despite the fact that I’ve been open about how the women in my life to that point had either abused me, severely betrayed my trust, or both.
Then I come out as trans and suddenly now the full context of what happened then is understood by others? It’s frustrating as hell and makes me feel extremely tokenised. Like wow guys, feels fantastic that I’m being judged by how I identify and not by the merit of my actions or the circumstances I’ve grown from.
You know posts like this annoy the hell out of me because people with this mindset put identity before character, and I really hate when that is somebody’s list of priorities.
I couldn’t agree with you more. Unfortunately you can’t make sweeping generalizations and perpetuate a negative stereotype if you put character ahead of identity.
BTW I’m sorry that you had a rough time. It’s not morally correct nor fair.
OK, but if women stopped having babies, then there would be no men, so its really their fault
It’s obvious what this means, even if a little simplified. Fuck patriarchy.
Even though I’m still kinda pissed at you…thank you, truly ♥️
So we’re just going to ignore the first fallacy where the father believes a party consisting entirely of girls is completely safe?
It’s a false assumption that absolutely should be challenged.
I don’t know you, so I don’t know about you, but I’d take a party full of women any day over a party of all men. The thought alone of being in a room with only men alone is terrifying to me.
I’ll never argue that someone else’s feelings are invalid but I’d like for you to sit with the following thoughts for a few minutes.
The Trans community has spent a decade informing us that “Words are violence” and I think they have a legitimate point; words can absolutely cause lasting and measurable harm. Men and boys tend to use their fists while Women and girls tend to use their words. However both are weapons and they are both violence.
With that in mind when you say you’d be terrified to be alone at a party full of men you are really saying that you categorize physical harm above verbal because a gaggle of Women / Girls will absolutely twist off on other people, being as absolutely mean and nasty as you can imagine.
Flee the men if you are scared of them but the reality is that women can be every bit as dangerous, particularly towards solo men.
FWIW people should taken a group of trusted friends with them to a party. It’s safer for everyone that way.
With that in mind when you say you’d be terrified to be alone at a party full of men you are really saying that you categorize physical harm above verbal because a gaggle of Women / Girls will absolutely twist off on other people, being as absolutely mean and nasty as you can imagine.
I would much rather be on the pointed end of gossip than be forcibly gang raped.
I second this. Nobody deserves rape, ever, under any circumstances.
I have heard more than enough stories from the women in my life to agree.
Also, while i don’t have children myself I believe i think the parental decision making process here is pretty clear:
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Is my child old enough that I trust them to make judgments and their own decisions?
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If not, do i know these other children at the party? Do i know their parents and have an idea of how they were raised? Will there be adults present and do i trust them?
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Very real conversation, very productive dialogue
I dunno, I think Catoblepas and I had a really nice and real conversation shrug
I’m glad to hear that. I was most encouraged by the amount of people calling this out as artificially inflammatory engagement bait though, many of who were a lot more articulate and verbose than myself. Do you think the conversation in the twitter screenshot actually happened?
I think the conversation in the screenshot is a literary device to demonstrate what people mean when they say “All men” when talking about sexual assault, rape, and our rape culture.
It’s the literary equivalent of depicting one side as the chad and the other as the soyjack. It forgoes an honest representation to appeal to those who already agree with the core opinion and act as bait to people who disagree.
Something like that is fine for being funny, but for a serious issue it sidetracks the conversation into why the soyjack side is a strawman.
I think that ‘literary devices’ like this are, if well intentioned in the first place, counterproductive. Sharing our experiences and empathizing with one another brings us together and allows for healing and growth. Artificially intensified narratives serve to divide, isolate, and perpetuate a culture war serving only the elite. Even when well intentioned they’re crafted for maximum impact and lack the core of humanity required for genuine connection. They outshine and obfuscate less superficially impactful but more heartfelt attempts to relate, keep us angry and afraid, and interfere with real progress. They’re modern mass media, a far cry from the organic engagement people fled major platforms to seek here. Angry mobs have formed, and we’ve both been downvoted in the last 10 minutes (wasn’t me). I don’t think that’s what anyone wants besides the chronically online addicted to intensity of experience itself. If it ever becomes the default here, if people stop calling it out, this place will have become just another reddit and hopefully someone will have told me about the next place where actual humans can go to share their thoughts and feelings.
I’m not sure it’s artificially intensified when there have been several prominent cases of groups of men raping and assaulting women on college campuses recently.
I mean… It absolutely is? Those very real and very fucked up events actually happened, and spinning ‘literary devices’ around them where the noble right-minded hero dunks on some despicable idiot obscures and distracts from that brutal human reality. Give the 13y/os who lack the experience to take these ‘literary devices’ at anything other than face value a chance to exist as something besides the idiotically evil, inhuman, and faceless “all men” they’re portrayed as in this kind of propaganda and there’s a much better chance they’ll take it. I would go as far as saying content like this, whether intentionally or not, serves to reinforce the rape culture it criticizes on its face.
On a more personal level, it’s disappointing to have written all that for you to dismiss in under a minute. Doesn’t really seem like enough time to read it, much less put any thought into responding. I am not at all interested in fighting a culture war, if you aren’t willing to respond to me then this isn’t really a conversation
As I’ve said before elsewhere, I’m not going to apologize for being quick-witted. Your comments about downvotes and such didn’t warrant a reaction imo. Downvotes don’t mean anything to me and they change quickly.
I don’t think that memes like this are ever going to stop being called out - Lemmy has a userbase that is close to 80% male. If anything, I would like to see more posts and more comments and more conversations about the prevalence of misogyny and how we can work together to push back on things like rape jokes and victim blaming and all that I commonly see here. Stop fighting women for pointing out how shitty rape culture is and start working with us to shape this place to be less caustic to women and minorities.
