Would be funny to use HolyC instead
This is (also) about C++.
PHP for the GOAT
Perl + Mason
When I was a wee high school kid, asp.net was windows only back then and getting cheap windows hosting was harder than it was getting cheap linux hosting, so I focused on PHP more.
I haven’t touched it in forever, but its probably still good, right?It’s good
Asp.net is a bit old hat these days, but Blazor is pretty cool, though personally I don’t know many people that use it. .Net is very much good now though.
Time traveler: Moves a chair
The resulting timeline: PHP is dead for good. However, after some vibe coding caused massive errors in the ADSF framework (that replaced PHP), people are running to vibecode a fix, only to that cause another issue.
Oh my gosh if I could time travel and prevent generative AI from happening I would do it so fast. Although I do want to keep the academic and medical usage domains of AI. 🤔 HMM.
Need to go back and convince Alan Turing to change his test.
I bet AI could help you invent a time machine!
“well…it’s too late now”
Why is that written on an Office Space screenshot? That doesn’t make any sense. It’s not even close to anything said in that scene.
Why do people insist on shoving memes into everything? Did they not think their post was good enough on its own?
It’s losing it’s meaning over time, probably because the movies not being watched by “new” people very much. If you take out the movie context that made the meme he looks like he could be saying the text and I guess that’s good enough for people.
It’s like someone using a word they heard before but don’t entirely understand.
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How does the picture make it funnier here?
I don’t think I’ll ever understand the affinity for it. It’s the Internet equivalent of that annoying kid in middle school who couldn’t have a conversation without quoting The Simpsons or South Park lol
Have you ever heard of the phrase “a picture says a thousand word”?
Memes became a thing at a time when even emojis weren’t even a thing; though smilies were present, it was too cumbersome and not mainstream. At that same time “personalized content” was only a capitalist wet dream. Most people watched the same selected channels thus creating a “mono culture”.
Then phones with image sharing, widespread internet, and a bunch of other things became widespread enough that we needed way to quickly express complex emotions without both us and the other partner needing to know obscure name of that emotion/feeling. And that’s how memes became so popular.
Nowadays, we no longer have that same mono culture. So only memes we have today, are the ones became viral on the internet.
Sorry for the lecture…
The words aren’t even the same tone of the original. The image isn’t being used to convey an idea, it’s just…there.
Meh; a lot of those guys were my friends.
Learn asp.net? Bro, are you still running edge in IE mode in the 20’s?
Ruby on rails? That was a recommendation in like 06. /sardonic
I am not defending php, but it can serve a purpose. Surprised they didn’t mention perl.
Also surpised they are comparing PHP to JS. That’s comparing cattle farming to cooking a burger.
asp.net is listed in the meme as 2002, and Ruby on Rails as 2004
As for PHP vs JS, depending on your needs they can serve largely similar purposes. Both dynamically construct the page, one just does it server side while the other does it client side and can keep running and responding to what the user is doing without page reloads.
Surprised they didn’t mention perl.
That’s because Perl pre-dates PHP and was one of the languages that inspired it. You’d have to rewrite the whole meme.
Agreed, they should hit a goto 10 line. /being silly
Your point is quite valid.
Just spent my entire morning patching legacy servers running PHP 7.0 applications. Fun times.
PHP is dead, learn Brainfuck
Brainfuck? You need our Lord and savior, HolyC
I can’t remember the last time there was a vulnerability like this. There have been, but it’s been quite a while.
Feel free to use what you want, like what you want, but man, it just feels like when a woman gains political power and people come out of the WOODWORK to suddenly have problems with women in power. And I mean, people are absolutely bigoted against PHP. Is it worthy of criticism? It surely iw worthy of a lot, sure. Is it worthy of THIS level of disdain? I think not, but again, I’m all for people using what they like and feel is superior.
As for me, I’ve hosted professionally since 1997. While I’ve never been a big host, I did at one point have well over a hundred client sites, almost all WordPress. It’s been about a decade since I’ve seen any of them hacked, mostly because I keep all the sites I host up to date - WP, themes, plugins. And a bit of luck in there.
So go on, be hateful as you wish, and I’ll keep quietly using a tool that works.
PHP is a woman? 😳
Please don’t pretend to misunderstand. I was quite clear everyone can use what they want.
You’re not funny. Just tiring.
With lots of $
I did not have any sexual relation with this woman!
Anecdotally yes, web development is the part of IT where I saw more women than elsewhere. It’s also paid less, heavily disrespected and more prone to burnout, the closer you are to the front end. I don’t know if it’s a correlation or causation (existing social hierarchies etc) thing.
.Net has been chugging along quite nicely for decades now.
I blame Microsoft for that
And COBAL just won’t die.
COBOL*
Stupid phone
It better not. I’ve invested all my money in it.
.NET is the single best thing Microsoft makes.
It’s fast, multi platform (all mine runs in Linux containers), and the developer tools are pretty good too.
I really HATE that Microsoft made it, but I love C# and .NET.
Last place I worked at that
abusedused .Net was serving an angular web app to interface with a c++ BE using soap.Now that sounds sane, until they made their own C++ to CSS transpiler to be able define the ui in back end code. Like angular written in c++ translated through .Net.
Through no fault of .Net I just can’t get past those flashbacks.
To be fair that’s only like top 5 most fucked up code I saw there.
As backend code, yes. As a web (web, not api. As an api platform they’re great) platform… No.
Asp.net and mvc were imo a disaster, silverlight was… Oof.
Then there is maui which could have done it using blazor but just… Didnt.
… And then there is blazor itself. Though blazor is imo the best of all the web platforms they had, and i like it, it still has very rough edges and is not gonna replace javascript any time soon.
Hell, microsoft cant even decently support their own web ui platform ( fluentui ) because their backbone ( webcomponents ) is completely broke ( or did v3 FINALLY release? ). There are other platforms but they all seem to not take full advantage of blazor and its disgusting.What about modern ASP.NET? It feels pretty good these days honestly. I even really like the newer minimal API features
As i said, the api stuff of asp.net is very nice and straight to the point. The only bad thing ive got to note there is the openapi spec implementation they introduced in .net 10 is just terrible but itll improve quickly, its just early in its implementation ( like how system.text.json was )
Oh whoops, I just can’t read
Everyone has forgotten java applets+ java servlets combo. I have no idea why it didn’t survive, but if it would have, it’d defeated PHP (in amount of vulnerabilities ofc)
I was told in school that Java applets were the future and they made us take a class that focused heavily on them. I did make a few games in applets, but they were always janky and I am glad they are dead.
Applets were killed by Flash, which then became obsolete.
Applets were killed before that due to repeated severe security issues and Sun fucking around and not making them good in my recollection. Flash was just easiest applets with no Java and died for much of the same reason a decade later.
I had to remove the applet-based server architecture when moving java 11->17.
The authors thought that it would be the right decision to accept code from users as applets
That’s both hilarious and scary. Scarlarious, if you will.
Now comes the scariest part. We removed this in early 2024
I work with some companies still running code from the late 90s, so I know this feel. It IS scary and I can only tell them to stop so much.
Because people hate building FactoryFactoryFactories
Also missing: React Node.js Vue.js Spring boot Ajax jQuery Probably like 15 others I’m forgetting
jQuery still won’t die eh?
As much as I hate php, JavaScript is an equal pile of shit when it comes to languages.
it is just much faster to write… I wish IDEs started automatically expanding
$()into document.getElementsByClass and such
Knockout js bro
BackboneJS, MarionetteJS
Fuck me, if my choice is between five flavours of Javascript, I’d rather use PHP. I’m developing a QML application and having to work around that abomination that the clinically insane want to call “arrays” in Javascript makes me want to fucking die.
Node is the only JS framework out of these that could 1:1 replace PHP, Vue.js, jQuery and Ajax (aka vanilla JS) are all clientside which PHP doesn’t do at all, Bootstrap is a CSS library and Spring is Java. That said, clientside JS is usually an anti-user mess and both you and the user are usually better off not using it at all.
Would rust have prevented this? 🤣
Well look. Obviously there are security issues. JavaScript has its own share, PHP has an extra large share. The question has always been when the commercial businesses will decide that they need to fund the open source projects they rely on.
