Well first of all, ditch the fucking pretense that the Democrats collectively are actually leftists. They’re not, never were, never will be while you continue voting for them. Gavin Newsom is looking like the potential Democrat front runner for 2028, and he has a lot of negative things to say about LGBTQ+ people. That human rights are negotiable is an abhorrent political view.
Nah, that “first of all” guarantees a Republican victory. And Republicans are absolutely worse than Democrats. The “there’s no difference” crowd are simply wrong. It’s a two party system and that isn’t going to change anytime soon. You change the Democrats one elected official at a time. That’s your only choice.
You can look at what our ancestors did. It took voting against the lesser evil to end slavery. The Republican Party was a third party that abolitionists put forward after generations of effort failed to work either of the existing parties from within. In the end it took forming an entirely new party to actually push forward with abolition.
Yes we wouldnt want you to have to do any work of course. We’ll serve you up something nice on a silver platter, until then I’m sure all the Palestinians will understand that you voted for their genocide. “Oh, there wasn’t an immediate solution to everything available?” They’ll say “no no, we totally get it, please tell them we think its awesome starving to death, wouldn’t want them to be mildly inconvenienced” they’ll say.
I should have said they’ll have my vote. They have my support currently, but as this last election has proven, voting for them when they can’t win only leads to worse and more genocides. It led to fucking nazis troops terrorizing and murdering American cities and citizens, in addition to the worsening crises in Gaza, Iran, etc, American imperialist rhetoric and military actions have skyrocketed in the last two years. Look at Venezuela for god’s sake. America has so many internal problems, no election is ever a one-foreign policy-issue election, framing it that way is just a distraction.
Ok. What’s going to work? Seriously, tell us a strategy. Because bitching on social media is not a strategy. Third party clearly not a strategy. What’s the plan, chief?
Grass roots party funded by the people and truly for us. Because big money isn’t going to allow anyone to fundamentally change the system. Elect independent individuals into local and state governments as well who will work to remove first past the post and put in ranked choice voting. Again, expecting any of the big money parties to make change is the definition of insanity.
I’ve been hearing about parties for the people, for peace, for love, all coming together for the greater good my entire life. And it just ain’t gonna happen like that. Too many variables, too many viewpoints, too much skewed power and gaming the system.
Lesser of two evils is all we’re going to get. So choose your battles strategically and pick a candidate who can push society forward a few inches. There are no miracle candidates and no revolutions coming.
This is true, unless you’re an immigrant or a Palestinian or a union organizer or a peaceful protester or against expanding the police state or against fucking up the climate or you want to protect womens right to abortion or you want to protect queer people or you want universal healthcare or you want to lower the military budget or you want to stop interventionism. Its also not true about changing the democratic party one elected official at a time.
But if we ignore all that, then its true, Yeah.
I participate politically in my city but it isn’t about me, this isn’t about atomization of each individual’s participation level. The problem is systematic and framing it as such is important, not blaming individual nameless voters.
Oh ok, throw that on the big list. Whatcha all gonna do about it?
Well first of all, ditch the fucking pretense that the Democrats collectively are actually leftists. They’re not, never were, never will be while you continue voting for them. Gavin Newsom is looking like the potential Democrat front runner for 2028, and he has a lot of negative things to say about LGBTQ+ people. That human rights are negotiable is an abhorrent political view.
Nah, that “first of all” guarantees a Republican victory. And Republicans are absolutely worse than Democrats. The “there’s no difference” crowd are simply wrong. It’s a two party system and that isn’t going to change anytime soon. You change the Democrats one elected official at a time. That’s your only choice.
Gloat more. You just want a system in which no one less genocidal than you is allowed to run.
This is ahistorical drivel.
Oh ok tell us your plan then.
You can look at what our ancestors did. It took voting against the lesser evil to end slavery. The Republican Party was a third party that abolitionists put forward after generations of effort failed to work either of the existing parties from within. In the end it took forming an entirely new party to actually push forward with abolition.
Just as soon as there’s a viable leftist third party, they’ll have my support. Currently, third party votes only guarantee the greater evil wins.
Yes we wouldnt want you to have to do any work of course. We’ll serve you up something nice on a silver platter, until then I’m sure all the Palestinians will understand that you voted for their genocide. “Oh, there wasn’t an immediate solution to everything available?” They’ll say “no no, we totally get it, please tell them we think its awesome starving to death, wouldn’t want them to be mildly inconvenienced” they’ll say.
I should have said they’ll have my vote. They have my support currently, but as this last election has proven, voting for them when they can’t win only leads to worse and more genocides. It led to fucking nazis troops terrorizing and murdering American cities and citizens, in addition to the worsening crises in Gaza, Iran, etc, American imperialist rhetoric and military actions have skyrocketed in the last two years. Look at Venezuela for god’s sake. America has so many internal problems, no election is ever a one-foreign policy-issue election, framing it that way is just a distraction.
My plan is to shit in your mailbox
We’ve been trying this “incremental change” in Democrats for decades now and this is the results we’ve got. Nah, don’t think it’s going to work chief.
Ok. What’s going to work? Seriously, tell us a strategy. Because bitching on social media is not a strategy. Third party clearly not a strategy. What’s the plan, chief?
Grass roots party funded by the people and truly for us. Because big money isn’t going to allow anyone to fundamentally change the system. Elect independent individuals into local and state governments as well who will work to remove first past the post and put in ranked choice voting. Again, expecting any of the big money parties to make change is the definition of insanity.
Ok good luck with your by-and-for-the-people party
You could have said you were a conformist jerk and been done with it. Saved me the trouble of thinking you actually cared.
I’ve been hearing about parties for the people, for peace, for love, all coming together for the greater good my entire life. And it just ain’t gonna happen like that. Too many variables, too many viewpoints, too much skewed power and gaming the system. Lesser of two evils is all we’re going to get. So choose your battles strategically and pick a candidate who can push society forward a few inches. There are no miracle candidates and no revolutions coming.
This is true, unless you’re an immigrant or a Palestinian or a union organizer or a peaceful protester or against expanding the police state or against fucking up the climate or you want to protect womens right to abortion or you want to protect queer people or you want universal healthcare or you want to lower the military budget or you want to stop interventionism. Its also not true about changing the democratic party one elected official at a time.
But if we ignore all that, then its true, Yeah.
I participate politically in my city but it isn’t about me, this isn’t about atomization of each individual’s participation level. The problem is systematic and framing it as such is important, not blaming individual nameless voters.