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  • Last I checked, it was more like 6-8% for UK… So, 6-8 out of 100 customers in that case would slow down everyone’s orders, would reduce the efficiency, increase the business risk and also require a whole bunch of extra procedures to avoid “poisoning” someone. If they’re already overbusy, it’s just costing money.

    In practice, Lactose intolerant also doesn’t mean what you think it does. It simply means they have some kind of negative reaction, and many people are lactose intolerant to a certain degree if you drink enough milk and eat enough cheese. I suspect I am somewhat dairy intolerant, and I still drink milk fairly regularly… So, if those 6-8 percent who are actually considered intolerant, most of them probably don’t care…

    Most people who are considered lactose intolerant can still ingest milk in their coffee though, because its a small amount with no impact. They’re not deathly allergic… Some of them likely also take Enzymes to allow them to digest dairy.

    So, if we’re talking ACTUAL numbers who this affects, its fuck all really, except the ones who are genuinely allergic (and do you really want to be serving hundreds of drinks an hour which look EXACTLY the same to customers who might get seriously sick and sue?)

    Disregarding that, the cafe has clearly calculated the business case, and determined serving oatmilk just isn’t worth it…

    Also, I have noticed at least 1 person in this post repeating brand names, so i almost wonder if some viral marketing is happening here…

    I don’t drink coffee though (it tastes like dogs arse), so I don’t really care though to be honest. And I don’t work in a cafe. The only info I’m working off is off people I know with IBS and dairy intolerance.

    On the other hand, oat milk can be contaminated with gluten too. So, some people who are affected by Dairy, may also be affected by Oat milk too anyway…


  • For extremely busy restaurants / cafe’s where people are already waiting long periods, they probably don’t want to overcomplicate things too, and increase the risk . They’d have to keep 2 different milk frothing machines, and every time a customer got sick, risk getting sued, whilst slowing down the efficiency of orders.

    Whilst it might increase the number of potential customers, in practice, it might only have negatives



  • Not sure about France either. But I believe in UK and Germany it’s less than 10%

    If a cafe or restaurant is already extremely busy with long delays, serving other milk too could slow down service, and they might not even need the business.

    I also know a dairy intolerant person who takes lacteze anyway, so its not an issue for them

    And I know another who just ignores the intolerance, as it’s only a small amount of milk



  • Seems like more a failure of you for not checking if they do oat milk. And they likely do lots of other types of vegan milk as alternatives

    Honestly, the kind of person who gets pissy about this kind of thing, you’re probably better off not having in your restaurant or cafe anyway. Because they’ve probably got a list of food requirements

    I have a friend with actual gluten intolerance, and she stopped telling restaurants about it specifically because otherwise they’d freak out. She’d just order things like minimal gluten and only ask if she wasn’t sure.

    But she’d never ask for substitutions either

    There is no way of knowing how busy this place is. They might be completely full and serving 10 different types of milk might simply slow things down and increase their risk if they accidentally mix the containers



  • I won’t be responding again, but you seriously need to consider mental help.

    I’m not sure what else you have going on, but there is clearly a lot happening. You clearly need more hobbies or something

    Seriously, go join a Meetup, go hiking, etc

    You don’t need nicotine to relax. You just need something to distract you. And that’s coming from someone who used to stress every night…

    The way you’re responding is a serious concern that makes you sound like a suicide risk honestly. Maybe you need a change of environment






  • I’m in Vic. Never said I was in US…

    Just because I respond to US politics doesn’t mean I don’t keep track of it (because their shit flows down to people like Clive).

    And there have been attack ads on TV about things being “woke” and the right wing is trying to scare people into thinking foreigners are responsible for all of our issues (whereas, a huge amount of the issues we have seem to be from meth junkies)

    The environment bs that spread about solar and national parks is only just one of those mega shit policies from them. Their shitness is diverse


  • My comment was based on the parallels which can be drawn between so desperately needing a nicotine “hit”, that you’re doing it in the least hygenic location, and the similarity with hardcore druggies who snort drugs off the toilet lid, because they can’t wait a few hours…

    It’s further supported by the fact that you’ve flooded this comment 4x, in a way that suggests this isn’t the first time it has been suggested you have a problem… In fact, if anything, it seems you’re trying to justify others being forced to breathe small amounts of nicotine by suggesting everyone has a drug problem anyway.

    Your comment not only has nothing supporting it, but, despite the attempt, doesn’t affect me at all honestly. I run a free hiking group, and the ratings for me as a guide/person are good. I’ve had maybe a grand total of 3 or 4 glasses of drinks this entire year honestly during special occasions, and most events I go to, nobody even drinks anymore (I’m also trying to lose more weight, and alcohol doesn’t help with that).

    Just remember, in 20 years time (possibly when you have cancers discovered to be common with vaping years from now) you’ll never look back at vaping and think it was worthwhile. You need to ask yourself if they’ve ever made your life better, or whether they’ve made tobacco shops lives better only…


  • The environment isn’t even the worst part of these dipshits and their policies.

    Many of those right wing dipshits are literally on TV claiming everything is woke, and that trans people are having a worse impact on Australia than the fact that big churches are a tax free business which are buying up real estate, and their pastors are getting busted for sexual abuse

    Furthermore, nuclear is somehow more important than them making everyone feel unsafe and destroying their mental health.



  • Don’t bother arguing with that person… They’re a fascist…

    A server admin told me they basically report other people they argue with to try to suppress any discussion (they did it to me, and its what fascists do), and I know they’re banned from a lot of servers.

    Anything you say, will basically just result in them calling you genocidal. And they spend all hours of the day arguing too (so, I suspect they’re a lobbyist, or not allowed to work for psychological reasons, which makes sense because they seem to think everyone but themselves love murder). Or, the other possibility, is that they feel guilty and are overcompensating…

    ML is likely the only large lemmy server they’re safe on with no risk of getting banned

    Just letting you know so you don’t waste your time