‘Charlie Kirk’ is an insult. I can’t believe you shot that insult at me.

*sick

Obviously I can’t say for sure, but even that somehow sounds as if it’d taste different to these crap discs

Actually, I always the necklaces/bracelets as more like the love heart sweets (I actually quite like them). Plz don’t say they make a PV version too, that’s just wrong

I agree. I think you’ve got what I was trying to say there as best as I could explain it.

Consider this: So 100’s of years ago, before parliament, when Kings ruled under the divine right and there was no politics as they are today (no elected government, no electorates splitting the vote, in fact no voting in the first place), did people not care about these issues?

You’re correct that these issues are, in our modern world politicised (or have become so, rather), but they aren’t fundamentally a political issue. That’s why I don’t look at them through the lens of politics when I answer that question. My point is, its not impossible to separate the issue from the politics

Good call

I don’t. I think they’re shit.

I know. Poor people…

Have you had Parma violets? They are hard, brittle sweets that taste like perfume. Also, in the UK, smarties are something else entirely

Yep. Pretty much.

Yeah I get your point bro, I wasn’t having a go lol. I do get that that’s pretty much how cartoons were then, but my other point is: when I was young in the 2000’s, loads of people who were 80’s kids said what we watched was a load of crap (e.g. fairly odd parents, power rangers, SpongeBob) but if you ask me, loads of these shows had character too. Yeah, they made toys sure, but that wasn’t the main purpose of what these guys making these shows was; they wanted to tell stories and actually entertain kids. And I look at the crap they made in the 80’s all for making toys and shit, and I think: you called out stuff crap when this is what you watched? Pfft. Bullshit.

And I’m not saying every 80’s cartoon was like that (I’m sure there were 80’s cartoons that did try to be different). But it seems like all the popular/well known ones were primarily a money making scheme rather than a story telling event. Thats just my take, others may disagree and have perfectly legitimate reasons to.

I haven’t been defensive. And I’m certainly not going to engage with the trolls any further

How? Explain what it is you think I’m defending?

Well I’m not trying to defend anything

Good take, good take.

I really don’t think I’m getting ‘awfully defensive’ (I’m certainly trying not to anyway) merely trying to point out that some people are missing the point (in fairness, I do think you have a point about the title)

Personally, I enjoy ones that try to tell you a good story. Remember the South Park vs Family Guy debate? It’s kind of like that (I think South Park is an excellent cartoon btw.)

As it is, you just tried to spark a flame war, not a debate.

Nope. I just tried to voice my opinion, I get I’m not going to change anyone else’s.

Also, 80s cartoons largely existed to sell toys

That doesn’t thrill me with confidence, and if that’s true, why should I like it?

What’s your fave show from that era?