• Rothe@piefed.social
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    9 days ago

    February 2025 is antiquated numbers. The amount of fascist radicalisation which has been happening this 1½ years since then has been considerable.

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    10 days ago

    Interesting but not beautiful. No labels for the state names, even Americans don’t know the geography that well. The smaller states need numbers with lines. Maryland and D.C. overlap and Delaware has no number.

  • Fallibilist@feddit.uk
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    9 days ago

    I wonder how the results changed if the question was put a different way. Even I struggle to answer this a bit. I don’t think society should “accept” my homosexuality. There’s plenty things I don’t “accept” either but I just stay out of it then. No need to like it - just don’t be a jerk and let me live my life. I don’t need your validation.

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      9 days ago

      I mean good for you, but as a fellow homosexual, I demand acceptance.

      Tolerance is a pathetically low bar. We deserve equality and respect.

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        9 days ago

        Respect is not deserved but earned on a individual basis for demonstrating good character. It has nothing to do with your sexuality.

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          9 days ago

          Sometimes people use “respect” to mean “treating someone like a person” and sometimes they use “respect” to mean “treating someone like an authority”

          and sometimes people who are used to being treated like an authority say “if you won’t respect me I won’t respect you” and they mean “if you won’t treat me like an authority I won’t treat you like a person”

          and they think they’re being fair but they aren’t, and it’s not okay.

          https://kottke.org/18/05/the-respect-of-personhood-vs-the-respect-of-authority

      • Fallibilist@feddit.uk
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        9 days ago

        Perhaps to some but one does not automatically follow from the other. There are additional steps to be taken in between to get from not-liking to wanting it destroyed.

        In my experience most people don’t have an issue with gays existing. The issue is with forcibly shoving that acceptance down their throats.

    • RBWells@lemmy.world
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      9 days ago

      I am from here and Florida, at least in the cities, is queer as fuck. I hung out in gay bars as a teenager, because they were safe spaces for all sorts. We used to have a very big gay film festival in St Pete, our mayor in Tampa is a lesbian. I have no idea who that 45% is.

  • kreskin@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    Now overlay the map of states where the most gay porn is consumed. All the anti gay states will be the top consumers.

  • Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    9 days ago

    I grew up in Connecticut which is largely an irrelevant state, but whenever I see maps like this Connecticut ends up being close to the top which makes me feel good.

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    10 days ago

    I always thought it was interesting how the one thing MAGA hasn’t been frothing at the mouth to reverse is gay marriage, it’s really crazy how fast the opinion changed once it became legal nationwide and the sky didn’t fall.

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      9 days ago

      Conservatives (fascists) always need a minority to persecute because their ideology is based on hate. Gay people ended up getting enough support across the board, after decades of effort, that conservatives (fascists) had to swap to targeting trans individuals instead to keep feeding the hate machine.

      Wish I was exagerrating but that’s literally what happened. Same thing happened with black people. They ended up getting enough support, after a Herculian effort, that conservatives swapped to targeting gay people.

      Conservatives (fascists) are truly awful human beings.

    • whalesnrainbows@lemmy.world
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      9 days ago

      I grew up with Christian nationalists, and I can assure you, MAGA always has their eye on gay marriage.

      They just know they don’t have the power at the moment, as their voter base has significantly eroded and some of the more normie republicans in the federal government can see that the Trump regime isn’t quite as inevitable as they thought it was almost two years ago.

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      9 days ago

      Oh, they’re frothing about it. It’s just that they know they’ll get shouted down about it. So they plan to go after trans people first.

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      9 days ago

      Marriage is at its core property law that promotes social stability and commitment to a status quo. If you’re gay but willing to pay a mortgage, raise a kid, and keep number going up they’re happy to have you for the moment. I don’t see it as a prize to be won but as a culture war touchpoint that has served its purpose and an option for those with previously subversive lifestyles to give up/buy in.

      It’s not as appealing or accessible of an option as it once was, and I don’t think they can afford to be as picky as they might like. If we get to a point where the Department of Family needs your home for a couple with more traditional values it’ll be another story, but I imagine religion, race, and political affiliation (in roughly that order) will be greater risk factors than sexuality. As is, getting married at all is a clear enough signal of alignment to be left alone

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      10 days ago

      My partner has family in Arkansas and I’ve seen more of it than I’d like, but Eureka Springs was delightful. Honestly never ran into anyone else who knows about it though!

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    10 days ago

    I’m ashamed that WA isn’t higher. I don’t know why we put up with the half of the state east of the mountains, they’re just our cross to bear.

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          9 days ago

          Or that comfort makes you tolerant. This would explain Florida’s position of being relatively gay for how poor it is: mostly beach, pretty chill. Less need for a scapegoat I guess ;)

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            Well, there’s also a lot of pockets of low low income earners that throw off the average in a few states. Nevada has a ton of people that live in the middle of the desert on nothing but meth and fentanyl, but Vegas and Reno are obviously super tolerant. Florida would be the similar, I imagine.

            But yeah, so comfort might be a real factor here.