Iowa city council debates proper time in meeting agenda to “undo the curse that was just put on our city.”
An Iowa man has kicked off controversy over religious freedom in the small town of Ottumwa, Iowa by opening a city council meeting with a prayer to Satan, which then kicked off a debate about the proper time in the meeting agenda to undo the “curse.”
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What did the council think “religious freedom” meant? They should be blessed it wasn’t a Scientology rhetoric or symbolic narrative.
Now that would be highly demonic and inhumane.
Well, there’s Cathartic, Lutheran, Methodist, Baptist, New Calvinist, Presbyterian, Fellowship, Chirch of Christ. Yep, I think that’s about everyone. The Muslims know to keep their heads down around here because we do this sort of thing and I think we’re ok with the Jews for now.
-The Council probably.
How was that even a prayer. Bro just urged everyone to act based on evidence instead of superstition.
Around here, “evolution” and atheism are considered religions. I have personally heard people preach against “those who worship at the altars of science”.
I’m America that can be considered very controversial.
Hai America
Pastor Rick Bick!!! I’m dying, I can’t breath, and I’m dying. This can’t be fucking real life. This is perfect.
It’s times like this I’m proud to be a paid-up, card-carrying member of The Satanic Temple or at least I would be if they’d send mE MY FUCKING CARD. Anyway, here’s the Seven Tenants of TST.
Fundies: WE DEMAND RELIGION BEING INSERTED WHERE IT DOESNT BELONG
Satanic Temple: rubs hands together excellent.
Fundies: NO WAIT NOT LIKE THAT. ONLY FOR US.
I can’t help but wonder at the fundies that want to insert their beliefs into the government. The separation of church and state protects the church from the state just as much as it protects the state from the church.
After all there’s no guarantee that the official state sanctioned religion couldn’t end up being Mormonism or Islam or any of thousands of other religions that you might object to. Even some of the founding fathers were deists who created the depictions of blindfolded justice and lady liberty to be new gods of America.
Even as a Christian myself, I’m glad that the satanists are there to help teach this lesson.
The number of Christian sects in the U.S. isn’t 1, isn’t 5, isn’t 10, isn’t 20. It’s more than 200. It’s very clear that Christians don’t and have never agreed with each other so it is absolutely rediculous for any Christian to think “what we believe” means all Christians. Hell there are so many people that call themselves non-denominational simply because they don’t want to claim parts of the Bible hated by others.
If we tally it up according to Christians all Christians will go to hell, which they made up.
This is also not getting into the innumerable folk branches of Christianity which basically range from Neo-Nazis to Celtic-Americans who are borderline anarchists and think all organized religions are cults.
Can you imagine what Trump would have done if he had control over an official state religion?
We’d have official Trump bibles in every school. They’d be changing doctrine to more closely align with Trump’s values. He’d be threatening them if they ever spoke against him
Let’s allow prayer in government functions.
Surprised Pikachu face
No, not like that.
It’s funny but the control the superstitions have over people is sad. Wake up to reality, this is the only time we exist and nothing after this, no reward to right the wrongs so enjoy this only time to be conscious stardust. The power to transcend the ego control is within us now. That anyone thought seriously about undoing an imaginary thing, is super senseless and waste of energy. Read The Demon Haunted World to understand the world accurately and no more useless, invisible dragons would be awesome!
I grew up independent evangelical. Many times, a visiting pastor would say something the home pastor disagreed with. Invariably, home pastor would use closing prayer as a way to correct what the visiting pastor said. Sometimes they’d turn it into a mini sermon of their own with scripture passages. This is like that, but way funnier.
They can do all the praying they want before the meeting—quietly to themselves or in a group peaceably gathered. Their insistence to impose on everyone in the room—and be disruptive when they don’t get their way—is a purely political move to control the room or narrative. They consider it discrimination if anyone objects due to the separation clause, or just having their time wasted by these fakers. Modern US Christians do more to promote atheism than any atheist ever did.
All hail the dark lord Satan!
Looks like stupid, hypocritical Republican Christians are having the day they voted for yet again. FAFO you bunch of morons.
That prayer is fire.
Dear father, let us stand now unbowed and unfettered by arcane doctrines born of fearful minds and darkened times. Let us embrace the Luciferan impulse to eat off the tree of knowledge and dissipate our blissful and comforting delusions of old.”
Let us demand that individuals be judged for their concrete actions, not for their fealty to arbitrary social norms and illusory categorizations,” he continued. “Let us reason our solutions with agnosticism in all things, holding fast only to that which is demonstrably true. Let us stand firm against any and all arbitrary authority that threatens the personal sovereignty of one or all. That which will not bend must break. And that which can be destroyed by truth should never be spared its demise.”“It is done. Hail Satan,”
What’s ridiculous about it is, if any of the people who were offended actually sat down and analyzed the wording, the only thing they could reasonably object to is the “Hail Satan” at the end. Which illustrates the entire problem with Christian Nationalism. They don’t care about the content, only the branding.
Not sure if the “luciferan impulse to eat off the tree of knowledge” would slide all too well
“They don’t care about the content, only the branding.” - Which is also the problem with Trumpism.
No, there are religious people that object heavily to truth seeking. One must only have faith, you don’t need truth!
Sure. I don’t consider that a “reasonable” objection, though.
Jebus never lies and neither do old racist southern preachers.
Jesus freak here and I concur. This prayer is a 10/10 no notes.
This you?
Actually yes, kinda, lol. Not religious but definitely trying to live in a Christlike manner. Everything in that prayer is a call to the highest, godliest principles. If anyone who claims the name of Jesus has a problem with it, they’re wolves in sheep’s clothing. But I don’t think I need to tell y’all that :3
“Oops, I thought this was freedom only for me.”
