Want to wade into the sandy, spooky surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. The spooks are well underway.)

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    Famous mathematician Terry Tao has published slides for “Math 2.0”, a talk where he discusses how mathematics and chatbots can integrate. I suspect that Dr. Tao has fucking lost it. I don’t know how far the chatbots have misled him vs. how much of this is his unawareness of non-number-theoretic maths, but his “ablation studies” and “neighborhood of a theorem” are already studied in reverse maths, and chatbots have not lowered the complexity of proof search, so there’s not really a sense in which chatbots replace any of the proof-oriented parts of practicing mathematics, regardless of the quality of what they say.

    Related: a doctor who denied COVID-19 vaccine efficacy (and thus should not be trusted) has chimed in to say that Dr. Tao doesn’t understand cancer research; in particular, he doesn’t understand that (1) we already throw a bunch of chemicals at the wall to see what’s effective, and (2) terminal cancer patients rarely hesitate to sign up for human-challenge trials and experimental pretrials, on account of having decreasingly little to lose. The orange-site commentariat have several similar complaints about Dr. Tao’s position.

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      Tao is on fedi; a polite (because this is professional business) reply on Masto pointing out relevant earlier research would probably benefit the community discussions.

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    For people who use firefox:

    browser.nova.enabled = false in your about config gets rid of the corners.

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    Saw a matte green Tesla with a late 2024 registration plate and a bumper sticker saying “I bought this before we knew Elon was nuts”

    My man, in 2024 musk had already destroyed twitter, was already promoting the far right AfD party in germany, Tommy Robinson in the uk, bribing voters for Trump in swing states, talking about what DOGE would do when Trump won the election… Like why bother with the pretense?

    TBF I was visiting the south coast of the UK a few miles away from the recent Balaklava protests over migrants in dinghies so perhaps none of the above qualify as “nuts” from this particular genius’ perspective.

    What a tool.

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      I remember the day my very last bit of grudging engineering respect counterweighting my disdain for the man left my body. October 2017, the day he claimed on a big presentation that Starship would bankrupt airliners by flying 1000 people per ship between world cities several times a day.

      Since, it is incredibly interesting how any time he is given free reign things go off the rails. The Falcon rocket program and the Starship program are so diametrically opposed in their design philosophies and ways they are run it is amazing.

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      I saw a Cybertruck yesterday that was painted bright green. I did not think there was a way to make those things any uglier, but I guess I was wrong.

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    before LLMs, auto-captions on Youtube used to be particularly terrible for Japanese. but thanks to the power of Gemini and very energy-intensive, biosphere-destroying giant datacenters, the captions now have become worse than ever.

    like I was watching a jidaigeki and the captions kept rephrasing stuff—in addition to the previous class of sound-based error, e.g. saying 行きます when a character is dramatically telling the other to stay alive (生きます), so it sounds like they’re fucking off and running away—which continues to happen like before, Youtube now has brand new and exciting types of error, like, bizarrely, captioning 誇り as プライド, or 冗談じゃないぞ as ゲームじゃないよ. In a jidaigeki. Presumably when the shōgun Tokugawa Iemitsu is taking a break from playing Mario no Super Picross in his Edo-period Super Famicom

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      Spotted this the day it came out. It’s largely reporting Dwarkesh Patel’s blog post about the different “civilisations” of agents as if it were fact.

      Very disappointed in Kurzgesagt who previously seemed pretty “with it”. But then, as someone with a formal background in compsci, stats, NLP and machine learning, perhaps this is Gell-Mann Amnesia/Knoll’s Law of Media literacy at work…

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        They had a couple of videos openly sponsored by effective altruists a while ago. Could be they are still downstream of EA money, or they got audience captured because pretending the inevitable scifi future is just around the corner comes with a built in audience.

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    https://www.engadget.com/2281765/anthropic-bans-sustained-and-needless-abusive-or-cruel-behavior-toward-its-ai-models/

    “We’ve added a prohibition on sustained and needless abusive or cruel behavior toward our models,” Anthropic’s update reads.

    If they want to moderate the user generated content posted to their internet platform, that’s fine with me, but then they should forfeit the DMCA safe harbor for their plagiarism machine as well.

    It’s now titled “Do Not Undermine Democratic Processes,”

    Well what the fuck do they think their whole leadership team has been doing in Washington these last eight months?

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      For a while it looked like devs would resist the slop, but now it looks like the slop is winning. It is pretty depressing. I am thinking about leaving tech altogether.

      Now it seems like a lot of meetups are all about AI, and if the topic is not AI, someone brings it up: Can AI do this, did you use AI, etc, etc.

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        For a while it looked like devs would resist the slop

        I don’t think I ever saw this. The only indication would have been a major dev org like the FSF, OSI, SFC or somebody hitting Microsoft with a really aggressive lawsuit over OpenAI. They would have had a slam dunk and it would have set the tone for the way the rest of the world reacted, I think.

        Instead it was just ‘wow cool toy.’ That was when I realized the real politics of Foss wasn’t just a couple of bad actors like Eric Raymond but a full on rot.

        I am thinking about leaving tech altogether.

        I wish I had a plan B, but I’ve devoted my life to being a software engineer and have no idea what else I could do .

        It is pretty depressing.

        Yeah. I’ve sort of resigned to my world being ruined and everything I ever worked on stolen and sold back to my bosses for the rest of my career.

        I just wish there were some way to inflict some fraction of this pain on the people responsible, the people who go to work every day to ruin mine.

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        @EFreethought @BlueMonday1984 not even just meetups, having dinner with programmer friends also mostly revolves around AI. Sure, some of it is talking negatively about it. But a few years ago we’d talk politics, hobbies, personal life etc. and now that’s overshadowed by AI talk. It’s just invading every space. Luckily still less so with my non-tech friends.

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        I’ve been squeezed out of physics academia after years of ordinary career pressure and obstacles that aren’t very interesting or pertinent to this thread. The fact that the insitutions and the community have no resistance to slop, that’s why I’m not even trying to go back.

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          What are you doing now? I feel like after I graduate I’m gonna have to find a new field.

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            Writing fiction and expository material to build emotional stability while looking for the next thing to do.

            Not the most encouraging answer, I know, but so it goes.

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        For a while it looked like devs would resist the slop, but now it looks like the slop is winning. It is pretty depressing. I am thinking about leaving tech altogether.

        Honestly, can’t blame you - with how utterly tech’s surrendered to the slop machines, and how its actively sabotaged attempts to resist them, I’d be looking to leave as well.

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        Years ago I thought, I like writing hobby software but I don’t think I would enjoy it as a career. And so, I do not work (at least directly) in software development.

        If only I knew the armour-piercing fin-stabilised discarding sabot I was dodging there.

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          @rhamph @EFreethought I’m glad I retired from professional software development just before LLMs came on the scene. Now I program the old-fashioned way as a hobby.
          However I recently was sent an ai-generated report of bugs and vulnerabilities in one of my projects and I have to admit that it is genuinely useful.

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            I have to admit that it is genuinely useful.

            Cool testimonial bro.

            If that was all GenAI was being (aggressively and incessantly) pushed as you probably wouldn’t be seeing terms like cognitive surrender and technofeudalism being thrown around as often, and this lemmy instance would still mainly be about dunking on SFBA quasireligious get-smart-quick scams.

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          @rhamph @EFreethought I don’t think I would enjoy much of anything done for work under capitalism.

          Practically everything has to compromise for profitability and exploitation.

          That is no way to live or build a society.

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    it’s in the trees, it’s coming…

    half of the open positions in my company’s division are for “Software Engineer - AI Native”…

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    Russia used an AI powered drone to kill civilians

    It didn’t kill them because it attacked them, it killed them because it crashed into a wall and exploded.

    Russian operators reportedly programmed the drone to fly toward a gas station, where its onboard system selected a target, most likely propane tanks. Before reaching them, however, the drone crashed into a wall and exploded, killing all three civilians.

    Somehow this is worthy of a Terminator comment

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    Ever since the beginning of the current AI bubble, there has always been a certain type of dipshit who takes some art posted on social media by an artist, feeds it to AI, and then comments with the slop image saying that they made it “better”. Well, now I am on the receiving end of that. In one of my papers, I (foolishly) wrote down a few comments on future directions, and now some motherfucker decides to send me an obviously ChatGPT generated manuscript with a solution to one of my problems.

    Unfortunately, I think their AI generated proof is itself correct, so I have to deal with it. But the manuscript is written in a way that obviously indicates that he hasn’t even read it. There’s even a section describing experiments for this mathematical question (???), complete with a “verification guide” that references an “archive” full of python scripts and test cases that he did not send me. I suspect he doesn’t even know they exist.

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      Unfortunately, I think their AI generated proof is itself correct, so I have to deal with it.

      Well you can just ignore it, or even steal it. No copyright on it anyway ;).

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        Or cite it, but in the most passive aggressive way you can get away with.

        …You should check the literature really carefully to make sure that whatever proof the AI “generated” doesn’t actually already exist somewhere and it regurgitated it without proper accreditation.

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          The spammer in question had previously posted a bigger result, but the writeup was so badly written that some people in the field wrote a new, readable paper with the same result. In their abstract, they specifically cited him and said that the proof was so unreadable that they were unable to follow the details, and they had no choice but to write their own proof. (The spammer’s proof also used math that was advanced enough to be far beyond his knowledge.)

          My pet theory is that after this embarrassment, the spammer saw that nobody was able to verify his argument. Now the real problem is that his paper was written so badly that nobody could understand it (in math, you can’t verify what you can’t understand), but somehow he thought that the problem was that he didn’t add an experiments section!

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      I think this is one of the clearest indications in a long time that he doesn’t actually take his own bullshit seriously. Why does he imagine that he would be exempt from a new Holocaust? He is just one among many scheming viziers/wannabe Rasputins, he’s made it clear over the years that’s the kind of position he’s most comfortable with. He’s as vulnerable as anybody in the sort of power struggle that would accompany mass pogroms in the US; perhaps moreso than many.

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        doesn’t work that way. also, useful idiots (sensu largo) can survive very long (and either reach the top or, one day, their usefulness ends.)

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        For a long time, clever young men have been taught the parable of Plato and Dionysius of Syracuse. Some intellectuals will always convince themselves that they will be the one to guide the stupid little tyrant and not the many who end up in a slave market just outside his domain (in the legend someone bought Plato and freed him).

        He wants to be Julius Streicher not the Wicked Vizier.