“You’re dead to me” is what a bad parent would say. To do it over political ideology is even worse.
I think this is innately a deeply personal issue to him - and he is now going to train the firepower of “the richest person on the planet” on everyone. thats where the politics and ideological alignment may come in.
one hell of a (sad?) real life “super-villain” origin story. the man needs mental help, and derision, but a lot of serious mental help.
The richest man in the world can buy anything except the love and admiration of his own child.
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He will never ever be in the gutter. I’m sure he has enough liquidity that he will be very wealthy no matter what his stock does, even if he couldn’t extract another penny out of his stocks somehow.
He’s a narsassistic asshole who apparently did IVF for all his kids because he wanted all boys.
That one of the kids ended up being a girl because she’s trans despite his effort at avoiding it seems to drive him crazy, especially as someone who thinks he owns his children.
he’s an asshole like all conservatives.
He’s not just narcissistic, he’s also autistic.
I’m ADHD and probably autistic. I wouldn’t consider any theoretical children I could have as property nor dismantle programs people rely on to survive.
Being autistic and a greedy asshole is not mutually exclusive. There’s a big difference in not understanding social queues or whatever and having a breeding fetish or whatever he has when it comes to kids.
On top of all the other horrible things. Like Trump he desperately wants praise and such. Its why he lashed out and called that one guy a “pedo” because he felt upstages when he couldn’t be the one to take credit for saving the kids, not that he cared about the kids.
You should feel equally angry when people politicise any mental disorder.
But I’m not politicizing mental disorders. I’m calling an asshole an asshole.
Anyone who then comes out with the BS “but he’s autistic” is trying to politicize autism while also excusing his actions that are literally costing lives.
So spare me your moral outrage while my existance as both a neurodivergent person and a trans person is under attack by the peice of shit you are treating with kid gloves if not trying to defend
You politicised narcissism. Don’t do that. It’s offensive. And if you are going to be a bigot and attack him for having a mental disorder, I dare you to go all the way. Attack him for all his mental disorders, not just the ones society will let you get away with. Commit to your values properly. Go big or go home.
I feel like you are missing the forest for the trees here. You keep fixating on this like some kind of “gatcha” using the exact same phrasing as his defenders who claimed he did the Nazi salute because he’s autistic.
I personally do not give a flying fuck on what “mental disorders” he has. Also, autism is a developmental disability, not a mental disorder. There is a difference.
As far as “politicizing narcissism”, how is pointing out he has traits associated with politicizing it? Like, he’s a fucking fascist who is using the absurd level of wealth he’s accumulated to basically buy the government and get unelected power he is using to dismantle any agency that benefits the masses or has investigated him for business violations.
That’s on top of the social issues where he and Trump are trying to make it harder for minority groups to exist in the world.
It’s been well researched that conservatives tend to have many more narcissistic traits because the entire political ideology hinges on hierarchy and a “fuck you, I got mine” mentality. It’s also been well researched that CEOs are all more likely to have psychopathic traits.
It’s not “politicizing” pointing out traits someone has to explain what they are doing in politics or harm they are causing in general. If someone is a self-centered asshole who act like they are better than everyone else and uses that as the basis for denying other people rights then I don’t really care what the reason behind their self-centered nature is. An asshole is still an asshole. There is no justification or excuse for what they do.
You are basically saying “you’re the bigot” when I point out that a fascist is a fascist. You ignore the substance of what I and others are saying to just attack us and hand wave any issues we have with Musk.
Again, if you feel it’s more important to tone police us because we aren’t using language you like when we talk about a literal fascist that is causing uncountable harm and death, who is supporting and pushing for multiple genocides, who sees his children as property and is using a toddler as a human shield, then I don’t think we are going to find common ground here.
Musk’s actions are indefensible. The only people I’ve seen argue against criticism of him are his sycophants. You are doing “so much for the tolerant left” bullshit. My only question is if you are actually one of his cult members or just misguided.
But in the end it doesn’t matter. If you defend a fascist you are a fascist…
We should probably be more invested in renaming the disorder from a term that’s been an insult for millenia and as such would always be stigmatized
Yeah. Although it’s worth remembering it was an insult with a very different meaning in ancient Greece. Elon Musk is an attention seeker, but Narcissus wasn’t. Narcissus caused all that drama by not wanting to date anyone. Ameinias fell in love with Narcissus and asked for his hand in marriage. Narcissus said no, and told Ameinias to fuck off and die. So Ameinias prayed to the gods “let him love what he cannot have”, and that’s how the reflection thing happened. Narcissus was the opposite of an attention seeker, he just wanted to be left alone.
I’m autistic. What’s your point?
Politicising mental disorders is the same bullshit no matter which disorder. Musk is a person, his autism and narcissism have nothing to do with his political choices.
His narcissism most certainly has to do with his political choices, especially since it seems his narcissism is driving him to do stupider and more damaging actions. Also I doubt he is autistic dude was looking for an excuse for being unfunny and about as charismatic as a rotting opposum corpse cooking on the side of the road, also the afformentioned uncontrolled narcissism and long history of lying makes anything he claims suspect.
I doubt he has narcissism as much as you doubt he has autism. He doesn’t have a diagnosis. It’s just rumours. That’s not a good enough basis to be ableist. You’re forming stereotypes about narcissism based on a rumour based on stereotypes. It’s fucking xkcd citogenesis. You’re inventing your own truth whole cloth.
I’m addressing the trait of narcissism not the mental illness of narcissistic personality disorder. Two different things ones a mental illness and the other is being a maladaptive bitch who thinks they’re the center of the universe and everyone else is an NPC, I’ll give you that musk is definitely mentally fucked by multiple metrics but it ain’t ableist to point out that his mental issues are contributing to his political spiral. Just like how my mother’s abuse was made worse by her bipolar swings Musks Nazi tendencies were caused by his maladaptions and accelerated by his addiction.
Analysis requires acknowledgement of all factors and guess what to analyze Musk you have to factor in his mental instability. Mental illness often times often times works as an acceleratent for negative tendencies I know this from personal experience, both with my mother and my own issues since PTSD and autism is a right volatile mix.
Regardless I don’t feel like there’s any point in being not ableist to Musk, it’d probably piss him off. Treat him like the depressed little shit stain he is, maybe we will get lucky and he’ll decide to air out his skull with a 12 gauge slug.
Autism has nothing to do with how he acts. Dont push that crap “he is autistic thats why he acts that way”
I agree. But Naia was politicising mental disorders and I thought I’d dare them to go all the way. I hate it when cowards only go after the mental disorders everyone already hates. It’s picking on the weak. Go big or go home!
What politicizing? That he is a narsassistic asshole? He’s also a psychopath, like all billionaires.
I don’t really know what you are even saying. Being autistic does not make you do nazi salutes then joke about it with puns when called out on it.
No mental disorder makes you do Nazi salutes
His kids are all IVF because his penis got broken during vanity enlargement surgery. Balding, chinless, dickless wonder who somehow thinks HIS genes need to be propagated with gold diggers. Respect to his daughter for being what she is, and not what he wants.
who somehow thinks HIS genes need to be propagated with gold diggers.
Who else is he going to propagate his genes with? At least they get paid for their service?
I was kinda implying there’s shitty genes from both sides, when both parents are shitty…
if anyone wants to check your post history, i’d bet they’d agree that your mother wouldn’t be very proud of you.
I loathe Trumpists, russian orcs and Musk cucks. Of course YOU don’t like it !
yeah, that all totally sounds like me.
where the fuck did you get the idea that i’m totally different from everything i say?
Yep and if he’s controlling he’ll HATE that she’s not doing as he wants and living as the gender she was assigned at birth
Twitter likes are more important to him than the wellbeing of his daughter
Not even political ideology, she’s just trans.
This is incredibly disrespectful to anyone who has actually lost a child. Also, her name is Vivian!
needed a moment to realise this is about Vivian
It’s not impossible he’s more mad about the name change removing the X from her name.
I wonder if fElon would really be a little less unhappy if she had gone with Xena instead of Vivian? Of course, that isn’t something she needs to care about – but I’m just wondering if he’s stupid enough for that!
This isn’t the right thread to post it on, but no he can be shittier. He even pulled a preemptive Adolf Eichmann when he said that he never physically hurt anyone. This is what Eichmann said at his trial. That he never killed a Jew or ordered anyone to kill a Jew.
That was, of course, irrelevant. He was the architect of the holocaust and his actions are what allowed the 20 million victims to die.
Slight tangent here: it’s important for everyone to recognize how any organizational structure or bureaucracy contributes to the diffusion of responsibility. At best it’s accidental, but at worst, it’s used to protect those in power while ensuring the little guy is left holding the bag. At the same time, it helps everyone involved do their part since their individual role is usually very small and only slightly outside the moral bounds of the individual (if at all). You (anyone) may be in an organization that has the same patterns at play, * right now.*
This is also why RICO lawsuits are a thing, since it was nearly impossible to nail mob bosses to the wall without it. IMO, we still need something stronger as applied to the misdeeds of corporations, but I suspect that’ll be a long time coming.
Many countries did enact RICO style laws to stop organized crime. In Japan if one Yakuza member does something really stupid, they can actually arrest and charge many of his comrades even if they had nothing to do with his crime or even have knowledge of it.
Oh wow. If there was ever a Japanese take on something like RICO, “you have brought shame on your organization so all of your associates get punished” is probably the most Japanese one possible.
If he thinks himself eichnann I’ve got news for him, as he’s a major propagandist, and Goebbels and Streicher both hanged.
Julius Streicher was indeed hanged, but Goebbels committed suicide… along with his wife… after killing their children…
Oh yeah he was one of the ones who knew he was doomed and did it himself
A coward to the end, unwilling to answer for the crimes he knew he committed.
And seriously what a sick fuck to even kill his kids. The allies weren’t going to punish his children.
I dont get why people give a fuck about Trans or anyone different from them.
What happened to live and let live? Your child being trans and just existing peacefully is not harming you.
I hate bitches who just want to find some stupid shit to be against that has nothing to do with them.
They’re not kids to him, he sees them as an extension of himself and a way to extend his control, so when one has their own personality or breaks away from his puppetry he sees it as a personal slight and must shut it down before it makes him feel like his facade of “tech genius” is breaking to show the insecure, brain damaged, moronic k-hole nazi that he really is.
Yup. This is classic narcissism. The role of the abused in this relationship is to perpetually make the abuser feel happy, whole, and loved; the abuser cannot do this for themself. By breaking with this pattern, the victim is living a life that doesn’t feed back into Elon’s, which is verboten in the eyes of the abuser. So, we get the hate-train turned pitty-parade reaction on Xitter, potentially drawing in more people to feed this bottomless pit of an ego. It’s also textbook to not be able to self-assess, so he’s totally unaware of the dissonance around claiming to be the victim while hating on your own kid and a whole social movement.
BTW, if this sounds like vampirisim, it basically is. Go watch Renfield for a playful, over-the-top, and yet informative, take on all that.
To get your head around this you must first understand that the haters see transsexuals, homosexuals, etc., as having made a choice. By stamping on those people, they are preventing others from making what they see as a life ruining decision.
Hell, you can see it in this very post. To Musk, Xavier was suckered into being trans by woke people.
There’s much more to unpack regarding the hate which I won’t get into, but the belief in choice is the starting point.
The logic still doesn’t track though. Even if it was a choice, who cares?
People are making choices to murder people, poison the drinking water, rape the weak, spread prion diseases, and strip your rights. But I hear nothing from the same exact people screaming about trans - which has no effect on your living conditions.
Like we really need to stop trying to rationalize these people. They are seriously worthless scum until they start speaking in good faith - which they won’t because they can’t rationalize misplaced fear.
All of the wedge issues are like that too. Abortion, social justice, guns all directly impact a relatively small number of people. However people have very serious opinions on those things that go to the very core of their character and partly define who they are, so they’re used to divide the majority into smaller groups. So we don’t gain class consciousness and realize what the problem actually is.
Don’t give a shit about logic. I’m explaining their thought process. Which isn’t about logic. Which is why you can’t get your head around it.
As to “who cares”? They care because they think degenerates are influencing their kids and culture. And we’re back to the “choice” thing.
You’re trying to logic your way around my post and their thoughts. Ain’t gonna work.
Remind me, who’s the one saying people have _____ Derangement Syndrome?
Trans Derangement Syndrome. Fight the transphobia.
Just another “serious adult” in the imperial core.
Literally nobody in my day-to-day life has ever warned me about or even used the term ‘woke mind virus’. It’s a fucking ridiculous notion pushed by ignorant, non-serious fakers. If anyone did say that to me in person, I’d laugh at their face then turn around and walk away laughing so hard i’d be looking for a hand rail or wall to balance myself. It’s too bad social media doesn’t allow for that level of humiliating interaction
Is the woke mind virus here with us in this room right now?
Ew
Elon Musk will never not be toxic and the same goes for all his companies.
It would have been so nice if right under that, Vivian would have responded with “fuck you Elmo”
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As an elder millennial I liked to watch older cartoons of my childhood previously, but as I got older I thought ‘man I wish the world was that simple to understand with cartoon villains’.
Then I got even older and now I realize that the world IS that simple. Only problem is that we don’t have cartoon heroes to match.
What noble deed did the kid do that his father called him “woke”? Did he show empathy, or what?
She legally disowned him (including changing her last name to reflect her mother’s, her mother being Musk’s first wife). Since then Vivian has been openly anti her ex father, including decrying billionaires as a whole, and most recently going in teen vogue to say how her ex father absolutely did a nazi salute, is a raging bigot, and she doesn’t fear him
His kid is trans, clearly the woke mind agenda did it.
Fucking called her Xavier, I would change that even if I wasn’t trans
wait till you hear about X Æ A-12
Using an Æ without being able to pronounce it is both offensive and hilarious to me as a Dænish person
What’s the correct pronunciation in danish?
Nice try, Elon.
Isn’t it “ah” like Ænema?
I saw it explained as x ash a 12… So ae is ash i guess
According to Wikipedia there are 4 pronunciations in Norwegian alone, none of which are “ash”.
I initially thought it was pretty much like ä, but apparently that’s only one of the possible pronunciations.
Poor kid… Xasha 12 was at least a bit off a name.
Based on their relationship post-Luigi, I’m pretty sure you pronounce X Æ A-12 as “Kevlar”.
Now daddy is going to stand in front of an open window, so it’s time for a piggyback ride little Kevlar!
Æ
He can’t even pronounce Æ.
He probably thinks it’s pronounced like this:
That legitimately brightened my day a little, thank you. Made me smile
After the past ten years, clearly it can.
