• Oscar Cunningham@lemmy.world
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    Stable and prosperous? She started with a civil war and ended by being conquered by Rome. The bit in the middle wasn’t stable either.

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      Getting conquered by Rome is just what you do when you live by their sea.

      But yes, it was, all things are relative, and one can’t blame the beach for the tsunami.

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      It looks to be written by Arsinoë IV or maybe even Ptolemy XIV as it refers to «my brother», so it’s probably biased

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      History was invented by Universal and MGM. According to Universal. Others (Paramount) claim it was invented by Paramount.

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      3 Antony, on the contrary, like Heracles in paintings where Omphalé is seen taking away his club and stripping off his lion’s skin, was often disarmed by Cleopatra, subdued by her spells, 957and persuaded to  p339 drop from his hands great undertakings and necessary campaigns, only to roam about and play with her on the sea-shores by Canopus and Taphosiris. 4 And at last, like Paris, he ran away from the battle and sank upon her bosom; although, more truly stated, Paris ran away to Helen’s chamber after he had been defeated; but Antony ran away in chase of Cleopatra, and thereby threw away the victory.

      Plutarch was a bit of both, but that tendency has definitely existed longer than movies.

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    Nothing to me says ‘sexy’ quite like your grandad and your great-grandad being the same guy, or your (great * 5)-grandmother / grandfather being one man and woman, when most people have that responsibility spread between 64 people.

    Close family. Must have made Christmas easy - having the in-laws round isn’t so bad when they’re your own blood relatives too.

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      Yeah I can’t remember the reasoning / evidence but I do remember reading that Cleopatra was unlikely to have been beautiful or “sexy”. IIRC it’s indeed because she was likely to have congenital deformities due to inbreeding - much like those of Tutankhamen.

      She was extraordinary powerful, well educated, and had a terrifying intellect. Additionally she would have bathed daily which would have been alluring in that era.

      That said, there’s no shortage of other powerful Egyptian babes, Nefertiti and Hatshepsut come to mind.

      Edit: Plutarch the Roman historian said something diplomatic like physical beauty is not her most striking feature. Which, when talking about a ruler, is saying she’s ugly.

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      Small domino: Greek bloodline fuckery.

      Middle Domino: Hollywood.

      Big domino: Incest porn.

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    Don’t historians say she probably wasn’t sexy? Just super bold which attracted powerful men, who hasn’t seen much of that back then.

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      She was a powerful personality. All the records indicate that she was of seemingly above average beauty standards, but nothing earth shattering.

      Instead, it is claimed that her strength of personality is what attracted the powerful men in her life to her.

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      She had access to creams, ointments and fragrances and good sleep. She also kept ugly ass lady servants to keep the contrast in her favor.

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      One theory is that she was a bit odd-looking, but pointing that out would likely result in a painful death, so everybody erred on the side of flattery.

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    Nah, it is the other way around. Historians would say those facts, and Hollywood and possibly general media would be the ones saying “sexy”.

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      my take is that they’re trying to do the “>text” to indicate that is an action rather than words, but it formatted to a quote box

      >this is what was meant

      this is what happened

      that’s my guess tho idk