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Google photos on ios is literally a hostage situation. Remove key functionalities like copying an image or editing an image unless you give them full unrestricted access to your entire photo library. (The holy grail of surveillance capitalism data). Data extortion masquerading as a service.
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Yeah, iOS is nuts.
Transfer files over bluetooth? Best go buy an entire apple product because fuck internationally recognized standards.
Transfer music to the iPhone? Gotta download one of two programs, make an apple account, and sync your entire library. Apple doesn’t support common formats such as FLAC? Go fuck yourself and convert your entire library for them.
Backup your phone to the cloud? Apple doesn’t let you select how many backups are saved so you run out of storage and get an upgrade to apple storage program for only $5.99 every other month/phone update.
I thought google was bad with their tyranny of default but the iphone 16 pro max is the pinnacle of anti user and pro consumerism. I list that phone as it is the only apple phone I have used.
I don’t think this is an iOS problem, unless the Bluesky post predates the feature that showed me this when I tried to insert a picture in OneNote:
Choosing “Limit Access…” lead to this:
So yes. Both apple and Google are doing this shit. It’s very bad at this point.
I’m genuinely considering getting Huawei with harmonyos as my next phoneConsider Huawei has a lot of adware, like Xiaomi.
And you think it will be different? They are all doing this, because your data and info is valuable to them. Who they share the info with might differ, but they are all designed to scrape the data of your life so they can get all the seedy details and use them for whatever the hell they use it for?! Lord only knows why they want to know what I jerk off to, but that’s their problem.
I just don’t connect my phone to the internet. £4 a month for unlimited calls/SMS and that is it. Currently using a brick phone but thinking of replacing it as despite being IP68 water resistant including salt water and bleach, the mic has gone a bit shit after I cleaned it in the sink after it got a few splashes of sea water on it.
When I do get round to replacing it I am looking at the cheapest android I can find, send a few APKs to it over LAN. May let it connect to the internet once to download offline maps.
Probably buying used will get you a better deal
Yeah that is what I am thinking of doing
Written black on white in 1998 so nearly 3 decades ago by Hal Ronald Varian, chief economist at Google, chapter 5 Recognizing Lock-In and chapter 6 Managing Lock-In with my own notes https://fabien.benetou.fr/ReadingNotes/InformationRules
Namely it’s a strategy. It does not make it “OK” morally or ethically but at least business wise, we had been warned a long long time ago. If despite this been laid out so plainly and methodically we don’t both individually and collectively, keep on using such services then we have to at least understand the consequences.
Edit: want to do something about it? Please do. Use https://takeout.google.com/ to leave then bring your own data in a system you actually manage, e.g. https://immich.app/ or whatever else better fit your need. If you still stay, you are giving Google more power to keep on using your data.
>Uses applications from the most privacy-destroying ad agency in the history of the world
>Is surprised that they don’t respect privacy.
Stop using Google trash. Google is evil.
That’s what you get for using a Google product.
This is actually an iOS issue, their permissions aren’t fine-grained enough so every photo app would need access to the whole photo library. The reason people don’t notice this is because Apple Photos has access by default
That doesn’t matter. Why are they using Google products with an iPhone?
User choice, they shouldn’t be required to use Apple products
They are not required to use Google products, so why throw that in the mix? I mean if they make that choice they are going to get what the get. Nobody is making them do that.
You can give permission for the whole library, or any amount of photos you want. How can this be an iOS issue? It’s pretty obvious Google just wants access to your entire library when it isn’t necessary.
Apple and giving their own software priviledged access and denying/revoking that priveledge from their competitors. Name a more iconic duo. See also Tile, Pebble, Spotify, etc.
Name a more iconic duo:
Google & Spyware
If you use apple images or whatever the fuck it’s called then they have the same thing. Unless you do their e2ee thing and hope they don’t hold the decryption keys for that.
Here am I, Gigachad, running LineageOS, PiHole and only using FOSS apps
Yeah, I’ve set up an Immich server last week using an old spare 250gb HDD and transfered my google photos to it…so far so good. I had been using nextcloud for a year to new pictures but the UI is not that great and I missed my old photos. Immich is great! Oh I’m also using lineage…with microg, a pihole and some obter awesome self hosting programs
So are you rolling your own cloud storage?
I’m running gos on a pixel and rolling my own cloud with nextcloud on my server. Works great.
I’ll look into nextcloud. What kind of hardware are you running it on? Any type of off-site backups?
I’m running it on a nearly decade old PC I used to use for windows and gaming back in the day. Before I ran it on the PC I ran it for several years on a raspberry pi 4 (8GB).
For offsite, I roll my own by keeping an (encrypted) hard drive stashed in my desk at work. I update it every couple weeks or so, which is fine for me.
Edit to add the PC is now running Ubuntu server, and in addition to nextcloud I run like 15 or so other services for myself and my family like
Navidrome (rips of all my old CDs and new ones I buy) Jellyfin (rips of all our DVDs) Radicale (caldav for calendar. Could do this with nextcloud but I wasn’t running it for a bit there) Joplin server for my notes Mealie for our recipes Forgejo, my private gitforge
There’s more but I can’t think of them.
Man those are some great name drops, thank you. I literally have an outlined plan to write my own Mealie equivalent because I couldn’t find anything that fit without selling me some bs service
By the way, where do you go to find these types of things anymore? Web search has been completely fubar for years
Yeah. Web search sucks these days. Here’s where I find stuff:
Awesome Self Hosted is a list of all kinds of self hosted options broken down into categories. It’s a great resource. I browse this pretty regularly to see if anything catches my eye.
The selfh.st email newsletter is also great. Weekly email with some self hosting news, new projects and projects that have updated.
And the Lemmy communities!
This is the reason FOSS has such a bad name, people will say shit like this as if what they’re doing is easy.
I guess if I won the lottery and didn’t have a job I could spend all that time and money to maintain all that shit.
I have a full time job and am working poor like many. I’m hosting all this on a decade old PC that I built back in the day. I find the time I spend on deploying and maintainig my services very rewarding, but its not for everyone, and that’s fine.
I’ve been at it for years. It takes time and effort and learning to do, and I’ll be the first to help people who post questions here to Lemmy for self hosting.
FOSS is a community like any other with good and bad apples in it. You can learn a ton from the community and take control of your own data if you want to.
I find it very rewarding and fun, but if you expect me to write a full how to every time I mention that I self host that’s a little crazy. I’ll happily answer anyone’s questions and share my knowledge but I’m not just gonna dump six-ish years of my notes in a comment.
I am running Syncthing between my devices, which is enough for me. I wondered if I should in a Synology, but now that they went full enshittification that’s not a question anymore.
I dont know that google even is the most convenient product for this anymore. The experience via google, microsoft, and amazon have all gotten so shitty that normal people I know are complaining about it.
I’m still pissed over them nuking my violent money scripts. Maybe this is a bad idea but I migrated to using a chromebook after years of using a linux laptop. Everything I do is on server so I just need the most mobile device possible that can hop on SSH. Every browser available on it besides chrome wastes screen real estate. Otherwise I wouldn’t be caught dead using chrome.
Well they blocked my violent monkey at there goes a lot of custom scripts. Because ChromeOS is so locked down I can’t exfiltrate the extension data and get it by other means. Fuck them destroying other people’s data with an update. They could have at least let people run manifest V2 extension’s own internal pages and blocked them running on websites if they don’t want V2 extensions interacting with their precious ad network.
I’m now convinced letting corporations into open source was a mistake. Google has needed the open source community to keep their browser highly accepted. But everyone who contributed to a corporate backed open source product basically helped develop and maintain product for a corporation for free.
Then you have IBM I mean Redhat I mean Fedora I mean Free Desktop Foundation intentionally killing XOrg. I know some people here may not like the XLibre fork because of preference for one side or the other in some dev drama but you have to admit it’s kind of a fucked thing that that org chain can cherry pick open source projects to die when they think other software is better for their profit calculation, even when there are people willing to contribute. Maybe IBM shouldn’t be able to do that.
Then you have Microsoft backing what was supposed to be an open source AI project. And look how open source that stayed.
I suppose if corporations want to contribute to open source that’s OK. We’ll take code. But stop letting them lead it.
Use Immich.
Hey I just set up Immich about 20 minutes ago! All you lazy dweebs (self inclusive) tteck’s community proxmox scripts just pushed an LXC script for immich with all the PITA hardware accel config mostly taken care of
if you’re not paying for a product, then YOU are the product being monetized.
Thank you for the wise words, you convinced me to ditch my free Linux installation in favor of a paid Windows license. Does anyone know a good paid alternative to the spyware VLC?
Or just donate to your distro and vlc
And give them money twice?!
Even if you pay for a product, your user data is probably still being monetized.
Who do you think you are ? You’re just extension of their machine. It’s their photos.
And their cameras. I can’t even use my nest camera anymore. Because once Google took over they requested 24/7 access to my living room camera. That’s an absurd ask. Not while it’s on, but 24/7. Fuck you Google. Keep your grimey paws off my data
Am now shopping for home camera system with external hard drive
Don’t use Google.
I had this back in the day. No phone app. Just browser. Also there is a limit on how many photos it’ss displayed at one time.
I switched to Xpenology. Not sure if it’s still the same issues.
I wanted to forward my calls based on a schedule. Like forward my calls after 4pm to this number. Nope, can’t do it. It’s an easy thing but no, i need to buy a separate app that allows that function
What if I just don’t care, I grew up in the era of sending film off to be developed so I automatically don’t take incriminating photos. Nor to I take pictures of secure sensitive information.
When you sent in photos to be developed each one didn’t have a time stamp and a precise location. That’s the difference.
& device fingerprint & personal (google) account & a ton of metadata linked to both
