• VioletSoftness@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    the offensive comments:

    We had some new lows over the weekend, with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it,

    full monologue

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          Trump in 2018:

          “Just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening.”

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                And those same people are still in charge of the opposition, hiring hordes of trolls on social media to distract from their failure and blame it on voters.

                Logically it doesn’t make any sense, they nominate people that aren’t popular that can’t win, or if they do win like Joe Biden they’re going to do nothing with it and hand it right back.

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        The left also scrambled to say, “Not my guy!”

        Hell, I’ve seen people downvoted around here for mentioning the shooter had a trans lover/roommate. No idea if that’s true, seems a little too pat, but I’ve read the alleged text messages.

        Nothing there screams fake to me, and this administration sucks at impersonating liberals, let alone Trump himself. They’re hilariously obvious when they try.

        In any case, a Hitler Youth recruiter got blown out the neck from a 30.06 cannon shell. Fine by me, whoever did it, for whatever reason they did it. Just glad he didn’t use an AR-15! :)

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            What do you mean? I always talk about “retrieving things” and “my vehicle”. Grabbing things from “cars” (or “trucks” ) is for cucks, and I’m a macho alpha male™®.

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              fuck i didn’t notice the sovcit bullshit in there because i wasn’t looking now i gotta go reread. did he say conveyance at all?

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      It’s funny how absolutely true this statement is too. I’ve seen so many headlines over the past week about what political affiliations he might have. And we really still don’t know.

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        Didn’t you know that having a queer friend magically turns all your right wing extremist indoctrination, hate, and bloodthirst leftist! Queer people can turn you trans-political, now.

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        The guy murdered a conservative talking head and no one else, in a crowd of thousands. You can’t possibly suggest he’s not 100% liberal?

        E: you people are literally insane.

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          The guy murdered a human talking head and no one else, in a crowd of thousands. You can’t possibly suggest he’s not 100% Martian?

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          Have you not noticed how often right wingers get into public fights with each other? They hate their own people nearly as much as they hate everyone else

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          The guy murdered one man, and no one else, in crowd of thousands. You can’t possibly suggest he’s not 100% a woman?

          E: you people are literally insane.

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    Mocking Donald Trump as well, Kimmel said on his show Monday: “We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.”

    That is so tame. And accurate.

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    He didn’t even say anything other than the truth and played videos of the president himself ignoring the death and talking about his stupid ballroom that he was bribed with.

    I refuse to deal with republicans who ignore these blatant fascist moves the adminstration makes. We would have had a normal country, but no. Project 2025 and the heritage foundation couldn’t have that, so they bought donald the presidency and got elon to fund the campaign.

    It’s only a matter of time till people are arrested for talking out against donald trump and the fact he is a POS who ignores all law and order.

    But many of us would rather be locked up than bow down to a pedophile.

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    Jimmy should run for office now. I don’t think Jimmy Kimmel is some kind of saint but they put him in a place of power by pulling his show.

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      Could you imagine an entire administration run by talk show hosts.

      Kimmel, Colbert, John Stewart.

      I’m not sure they’d do a good job or that they’d even side with the public with issues or avoid bribes, but they’d be charistmatic AF.

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        Despite them being good people it would defacto be a step closer to Idiocracy.

        We want leaders who’ve built a career doing things.

        Speaking truth to power is an entirely different skillset.

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          I fully agree in concept, but i fear our career politicians (even the best ones) are corrupted or at least working complicately in a fully corrupt system.

          I don’t think that talk show hosts are the answer. Although, Stewart at least is 100% up to speed on political matters which is more than I can say about some presidents.

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            Doing things doesn’t necessarily mean politics. Could mean education, or administration, or front line work. Real life experience that qualifies someone to be in charge of things.

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      Jon, Jimmy, and Stephen would be wasted upon the presidency. They should join forces and start an independent media organization.

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      Colbert is the one well placed, to dust off his satire schtick after a maga conversion on his own channel.

      He should quit the network early and start, the colbert reported.

      Kimmel idk, but these networks will find conservatives have no sense of humor and cannot drive ratings. If they censor things the right cries about no one will subscribe to their dogshit streaming platforms.

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        The satire schtick won’t get Colbert elected. Kimmel is charismatic and likeable with his own personality. No point in chasing conservative votes; just get liberals excited and showing up.

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          I’m not saying for Colbert to run for office, I just want him to dust off his satire bit, I think he has way more effective at that than he has been as a establishment Democrat cheerleader.

          But since we are on the subject, I do want to see Jon Stewart as the Presidential nominee in 2028, at the head of a host of Reform minded candidates be there Progressive or other flavor of candidate matching their constituencies, that do not think people should be as fucked by the super rich without their consent.

          Because that is almost everybody electorally. Red State and blue. And the only way to win here now is with a massive electoral Landslide and even then it might be hard to overcome the Party Machine fixing the elections every way they can.

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    Extra crazy because he didn’t even speak poorly of Charlie or say any distasteful comments. He didn’t even really make a statement about the situation at all. He just said MAGA is trying to categorize the shooter as not them and played some clips of Trump being 100000x more interested in the new Whitehouse ballroom than the public assassination of his dear friend.

    You can’t cancel someone over comments they didn’t make. This is pandering, plain as day. Same reason Colbert got canceled.

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      Colbert cancellation was more clever. There are numbers that they could point to (though others that paint him well). They gave him a few months to finish things out. It was temporally too close to the merger talks but besides that the façade could’ve been worse.

      This time it’s a nakedly anti-1A FCC. :(

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    Well I mean what do you expect? it’s a fascist country, that’s what facists do.

    you think Nazi Germany allowed anti-party rhetoric or even anything that they could consider remotely offensive to them? no. they got rid of those people.

    Americans, please don’t allow yourselves to become more Nazi than you already are.

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      Americans, please don’t allow yourselves to become more Nazi than you already are.

      What are we supposed to do? I always imagined in Nazi Germany that the govt was working against the wishes of the people and they just didn’t fight back but Americans seem to constantly celebrate being stepped on and now I’m thinking maybe the Germans did too. I just never could have imagined humanity was capable of ignorance of this scale.

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        Germans did in fact like being stepped on just the same and when the war was over one of the biggest immediate issues of the allies was the de-nazification of the remaining population. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification

        Leaders like these tend to be a symptom of a deeper systemic issue, rather than a pesky bug you could just squash and move on.

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        I think it’s just not how people feel and this illusion is one of the ways the Nazi party was so effective. You have bot’s, paid-pundits, and controlled social spaces just like the propagandist’s and silencing of the dissenters before. Look at any poll, local action, or how people around you actually feel. I live in deep red country and everyone who was so pro-maga before kinda are just silent at this point on the actions of the administration but can still focus in on the “them” like they’re told. Only takes a few questions to break it down though with reality.

        The breaking up of communities is one of the most effective tactics they have, it should be a focus of progressive factions to double down on keeping open communication between neighbors.

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          how people around you actually feel

          There are lots and lots of people around me who feel this way. That’s what makes it so difficult and so hopeless to fight back. We’re not just fighting authorities, we’re fighting our families and friends, everyone of of them so dug in that they will hate and insult you if you so much as try to have a conversation about it.

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      Americans, please don’t allow yourselves to become more Nazi than you already are.

      It’s too late. Just nuke us.

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    This must be this famed “free speech” that JD Vance lectured the Germans about when he visited Munich.

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    Lmao, I don’t like him, but that’s pretty fucked. I don’t see how anyone could view this as anything but harassment and intimidation. They really want a new civil war don’t they? Accelerationists are eating great lately. That should scare the shit out of everyone, left and right included.

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      It’s worse. It’s state controlled media. Cancel Culture is about the population shunning individuals they dislike. In this instance it’s authoritarian government.

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    Wow, now they are just pulling whoever without a real reason or even a pretext.

    It is cancel whoever we want because we can.

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    We need to stop thinking that catching right-wingers in their hypocrisy and exposing it is actually going to achieve something. They know they have a double standard and that they get the clean end of the stick from it. They like that, and want more of it. They know they’re doing cancel culture and are anti-freedom of expression. The belief that they might suddenly have a dawning realisation that they’ve been hypocritical and two-faced and will thereafter either shut up or change their ways is leftist ‘pornography plot’ daydreaming. We need to accept that they’re unashamedly cunts who want non-MAGAs to be second-class citizens in every way possible. So trading blows with them on Twitter and posting gotcha “this you?” screenshots of them saying the opposite shit about George Floyd or whoever is just wasting everyone’s time.

    Voting is all there is, and that’s not a good state of affairs to be in. But it’s something you can actually work towards, at least. If you don’t intend to vote against them, there’s really not much use in complaining when they do their usual reprehensible shit like cost people their livelihoods because they weren’t adequately-deferential towards a dead bigot.