Why would it being acceptable 30 years ago mean anything at all in this context? Who fucking cares what was acceptable 30 years ago?
Science progresses. We understand things more over time. That’s how it works.
In other news, measles is spreading in Canada and the US (but only Canada is reporting it)
Chicken pox vaccine is a relatively recent invention. Before vaccination we knew that chicken pox was bad in kids but very bad in adults so better to get it as a kid if you had to get it at all. The vaccine changes the equation and not being able to evaluate that is a sign of stupidity. The vitriol from other parents is because she is hurting kids because she’s stupid.
I am currently in the middle of my second round of shingles. I have extreme pain from my right knee, up through my groin, and over my buttock, and to the middle of my chest on the right side. Any touch, including my underwear, clothes, and bed sheets is very painful. Putting my underwear on and taking it off is agony.
I am contagious so I can’t go anywhere near children or the immune compromised.
Fortunately I have access to modern medicine and got a prescription for famcyclovir for the shingles and pregabalin for the nerve pain.
Seriously, get your children vaccinated. If you haven’t had chicken pox get yourself vaccinated. If you had chicken pox get the shingles vaccine. If you got the old shingles vaccine get the new shingles vaccine, it’s better.
And, most important of all, fuck the antivaxers.
Yeah, thanks to my mom being an anti-vaccer I’m now stuck with shingles for life too. Every ten years it’ll crop up again, I’ve been told. No way to get rid of it once you have it. It’ll just hang out in your nerve ends, dormant, and occasionally wake up.
My first bout of shingles was two years ago. Here in Denmark it’s called “helvedild”, literally translated to “hellfire”, an apt name.
Thanks mom.
Do you have access to famcyclovir? If you begin treatment within 72 hours of the onset of symptoms it can stop the outbreak quickly and prevents the postherpatic neuralgia that sometimes happens in older people.
During my first outbreak the doctor said he was going to prescribe acyclovir and that the rash would spread to cover half of my body including my eyes, nose, mouth, genitals, and anus. Fun. I asked what would happen if I didn’t take the acyclovir. He said, “The same thing.” So the acyclovir does nothing. I asked him to prescribe famcyclovir. He said it was much more expensive than acyclovir but he would prescribe it if I wanted. It cost $200 for the treatment but the blisters didn’t spread from the first small patch on my right hip and dried up within a couple of days. Why the hell would I take acyclovir if it does nothing if famcyclovir is available.
This time around the doctor just wrote me the prescription for famcyclovir. I’ve taken 3 doses so far and the blisters on my thigh seem reduced.
fuck the antivaxers.
No, don’t. That’s how we get more of the idiots.
Fuck them with a fire hydrant?
Annoyingly, where I live, they won’t let you have the shingles vaccine until age 50 for… reasons, I guess?
But you better believe it’s one of the items on my to do list for my 50th birthday week.
I’m going to get the fucking vaccine as soon as I can after I’m done with this round. Two rounds of the shingles is uncommon, three is rare, but I’m not going to take the chance.
A colleague got shingles with … 55? He had stroke-like symptoms, i. e. half of his face is drooping, he lost control of one of his eyelids, and his mouth doesn’t close completely anymore.
What’s the point of giving every virus the chance to thrive?
We all had it when we were kids. A friend of mine had it really bad and he has pock marks all over his face and body, he was always the handsome one, but after that it changed him and he was never the same again.
From then on, always looking down at the ground, brooding, scratching the dirt with his feet, eating bugs, and going crazy for buckets of scraps
I had chicken pox as a kid and while it wasn’t horrible, I def could’ve done without a lesion appearing both on my dick and the roof of my mouth.
Anti vaxxers are fucking bonkers
I had dick pox too. I remember being like, 9, and dabbing that horrible yellow ointment on my foreskin and shaft. That was my first “I’m too old for this shit” moment
The vaccine was just after I got it. Miserable. I lived in an oatmeal bath. My poor mother got it as an adult (when we got it and gave it to her)
She was worse up in all ways.
I’d have gnawed someone’s ankle off to have gotten the vaccine instead. But especially for my mother to have gotten it.
Hmm, difficult topic. For example, we have Mumps here as a child. It’s just something you better have, because you have it only once and if you get it as a grown-up, it gets difficult, medications or not.
And big pharma is evil, like, not creating a helpful medicine because it wouldn’t net enough profits, because that’s how megacorps are.
But not in the sense of “there’s some scary names in vaccinations”.Yeah, make sure your kid gets mumps. Don’t worry that he or she might be one of the unlucky percentage that end up with:
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Inflammation of the testicles (orchitis); this may lead to a decrease in testicular size (testicular atrophy)
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Inflammation of the ovaries (oophoritis) and/or breast tissue (mastitis)
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Inflammation in the pancreas (pancreatitis)
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Inflammation of the brain (encephalitis); they can lead to death or permanent disability
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Inflammation of the tissue covering the brain and spinal cord (meningitis)
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Loss of hearing (temporary or permanent)
That’s all way better than getting the MMR vaccination that has a far, far lower chance of having even a mild side effect.
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No
Shingles fuckin sucks. Had it crop up when I was in 6th grade, only like 5 or 6 years after having chicken pox. Miserable week or so. Not that I’ll have to, but I wouldn’t make my kids go to school if they had shingles.
“long-term complications of childhood chicken pox” is one search that they don’t do
Profound hole in the “do your own research” theory: not knowing how to do thorough research
What do you mean I have to “read a book”? I’ll just find a wellness blog to tell me the thing I want to hear.
Even if they get the right search terms, they’ll just keep scrolling till they find an obscure blog with an anecdote from 2 mothers which confirms their existing bias.
Then you’re immune for life
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingles
Shingles is caused by the varicella zoster virus (VZV) that also causes chickenpox.
Thank you. I have a friend who went through this as an adult and ended up with nerve damage. A vaccine would have spared him that pain.
I had chicken pox twice.
Once the normal variety when I was like 6 or whatever, then when I was like 11 or so I got it again when visiting my grandma who just hosted young kids. It was largely the same, except it had rings around the spots. They did tests and confirmed it was a mutated variety of common chicken pox.
I’m terrified of shingles outbreaks because I may have two strains lying dormant in my body, but I’m “too young for the shingles vax”
Yeah, I’d get the shingles vax in a heartbeat, but I’ve gotta wait another 6 years. Meanwhile I know several people who developed shingles in their forties and have lingering issues from it (particularly ophthalmic). The vaccine needs to be tested and approved for younger adults. But I doubt that’ll happen. They’ll just wait until those of us who got chicken pox as a kid are old enough for the shingles vaccine, and who cares if we get shingles in the meantime!
I had chicken pox really bad as a kid. I had from the tips of my toes to the top of my head … spots in every part of my body - EVERY PART OF MY BODY! … I even have a few left over scars from that ordeal.
I’m middle aged now and I had shingles about five years ago and it was horrible. It burns and itches and at the height of the infection it feels like you suffered from third degree burns and the damned skin itches and you keep wanting to touch it.
My experience with chicken pox mirrors yours - they were everywhere. I’m approaching middle age (or there, depending on who you ask (👉ﾟヮﾟ)👉), and I’m hoping it doesn’t happen to me. But I know it’s just hanging out there in my spine… waiting.
Get the vaccine when you can. Because you’re right, and depending which nerve path it chooses it can be bad or it can be worse
Get that shingles vaccine asap. My Dad is the most stoic person I know when it comes to sickness and he literally CALLED ME ON THE PHONE howling about how bad it hurt. Don’t be my Dad, y’all.
Shingles can get in your eyes and cause you to go blind, too.
Brought about by stress … I was going through a fairly stressful time with work, travelling to a new place and trying to make ends meet. Keep a good diet, exercise, eat healthy, sleep well and keep the stress down … if you mess any of those up, you’re increasing chances of that infection just creeping up. Like others have said, it’s probably best to just get the shingles vaccine.
If shingles are good for a roof, why not you? Checkmate liberals
I had chicken pox as a kid. I think the vaccine for it only came out after my youngest sibling was around the age for it, as she is the only one of us that got the vaccination and not the illness itself.
Fuck this mentality. Nobody deserves to suffer that shit just because you and I had to. You’re supposed to try and give your kids a better experience than you had. Vaccinate your god damn children.
I was really young when I got chicken pox, maybe 5 years old? The thing I remember most is getting winter mittens taped to my hands so I couldn’t scratch my butthole until it bled. It was TORTURE. No one should have to suffer like that if they don’t have to.
I remember getting two weeks off school, the first week was a little tough but the second week was joy.
Once upon a time trepanning - drilling a hole in the skull to “let evil spirits out” - was a common medical practice. We don’t do that anymore either, for what I should hope are obvious reasons.
Mercury was once used as a treatment for syphilis, among many other things. Lobotomies, radium “treatment”, cocaine and heroin was used as a treatment for children with a cough, smoking was recommended as a treatment for asthma, electroshock therapy was used for damn near everything, induced insulin comas, arsenic and lead, tapeworm diets…
You all get the point.
I feel like two of those are more “counterpoint” than “point”.
I think they also used malaria as a treatment for syphilis, then treated the malaria with quinine
I was just reading about that. Good grief.
